Thought the Chuks sub changed the game for the worse for us. But it was not like we had many other options. Bowyer gets it right more times than wrong.
Oh well. Still competing, and there's literally no chance we will go down I think.
i know an option. don't bother bringing him on.
Im interested to hear what would you have done instead?
Hindsight is 20/20 but how many of us thought it was an odd substitution at 0-1? (I did)
We know Bow is very focused on rotation and with Leko out on Sat (and the obvious substitution) he opted instead for Kayal who had been outstanding.
From what I have seen this season I’m totally unimpressed with Leko and Aneke, Leko especially, who needs to work harder. The rest of the lads didn’t deserve that defeat although it was us who lost it and not Bristol City who won it. Showed today that Solly isn’t a LB, then neither is JFC but it is what it is.
Going forward we didn’t make the most of our opportunities and Bonne should have done better with the one on one just after he scored but his goal was a good finish and considering where he’s come from that is nitpicking.
Lockyear and Pearce looked solid as did Osijala and Dills had a good game I thought. Cullen and Gallagher played well, Kayal looked off the pace and Field was doing ok until his injury.
a gutting defeat but totally avoidable in my opinion and we can only blame ourselves.
I just feel sick about that game. No luck with us today.
Losing 2 key players early. Going 1 up. Bows making a key sub replacing Kayal with Aneke. And it almost paid off as both Pratley and Bonne could have put us 2 up. That would probably have killed off the game. Instead City go up the other end and score a scrappy goal. Fine margins. So, backs to the wall as our midfield has been weakened. And then that killer at the end.
Sick, sick, sick. We didn't deserve that. And, no one can be blamed.
To all those criticising Bowyer, Solly, Aneke...anybody else within the Charlton camp. Go to bed. Wake up in the morning and rationalise your thoughts. We are not going to win every game. Some decisions by the management or individual players will not come off. Some teams will beat us. We will beat others when we do not necessarily deserve to. We have the lowest budget in the most difficult and challenging league in Europe. We are over performing game in, game out. Our squad is made up mainly of decent League 1/ lower Championship standard players. We are not fighting for promotion but avoiding relegation. Please get back to the real world.
Good game ruined by a late sucker punch. All our own fault really. Poor decision making in the final third when on top. Too open when not on top. Terrible defending for the equalizer. And a rare night where Bowyer got his in-game tactical switch wrong, a more conventional move would've been to bring on Sarr and tighten things up, not Aneke to make an already open game more open, and, given we had the lead at the time, I think it would've been more effective on this occasion.
However, if the odd game like that is the price for having a manager with attacking intent and a winner's instinct then I'll gladly pay it because our matches are rarely dull these days.
The added injuries are a concern, as are the extra midweek minutes forced into the legs of the likes of Solly and Pratley, but many positives to take from the game too. Ashton Gate is a tough place to go and we competed very well and didn't deserve to lose, imho. Bonne still looks at home in this division and Kayal looked very lively until he ran out of gas.
Another tough one coming on Saturday away to the league leaders, with a squad depleted by injuries and ineligibility. We shouldn't stand a chance so bet the house on an away win.
From what I have seen this season I’m totally unimpressed with Leko and Aneke, Leko especially, who needs to work harder. The rest of the lads didn’t deserve that defeat although it was us who lost it and not Bristol City who won it. Showed today that Solly isn’t a LB, then neither is JFC but it is what it is.
Going forward we didn’t make the most of our opportunities and Bonne should have done better with the one on one just after he scored but his goal was a good finish and considering where he’s come from that is nitpicking.
Lockyear and Pearce looked solid as did Osijala and Dills had a good game I thought. Cullen and Gallagher played well, Kayal looked off the pace and Field was doing ok until his injury.
a gutting defeat but totally avoidable in my opinion and we can only blame ourselves.
If we can get hold of Charlton players distance travelled I think Leko's will suprise some people. I dont think its fair to compare his lack of footballing intelligence with lack of work.
My one issue with him is it feels like I am playing FIFA 2008 when I see him play, just cut backs followed by more cut backs. That tactic always got you space in FIFA. Does not work in professional football, go figure.
FFS. Someone on the match thread said that they were off to pee and I thought that meant that the game had finished.
Would like to issue a statement correcting this fact
I was desperate for a pee, didnt want to miss any of the action so didnt need to go anywhere
Thankfully managed to hold it long enough not just till full-time but to rant at Johnson / the Ref too
Hope that clears up any confusion
Well next time go to the toilet at half time, you big wally. I couldn't believe it. I saw your post and thought that the full time whistle had gone. I went on to do some other things on the computer and then when I came back to the BBC I saw that history had changed. Where did that bloody 8th minute come from anyway?
FFS. Someone on the match thread said that they were off to pee and I thought that meant that the game had finished.
Would like to issue a statement correcting this fact
I was desperate for a pee, didnt want to miss any of the action so didnt need to go anywhere
Thankfully managed to hold it long enough not just till full-time but to rant at Johnson / the Ref too
Hope that clears up any confusion
Well next time go to the toilet at half time, you big wally. I couldn't believe it. I saw your post and thought that the full time whistle had gone. I went on to do some other things on the computer and then when I came back to the BBC I saw that history had changed. Where did that bloody 8th minute come from anyway?
Two minutes added on to the six because of the head injury...
BREAKING: Lee Bowyer has revealed that Jonny Williams is set for a couple of months on the side-lines after having an operation on his knee yesterday. #CAFC
He also says that the injury suffered by Sam Field this evening does not look promising. Jake Forster-Caskey’s injury was to his hamstring so could also be bad news. #CAFC
Thought the Chuks sub changed the game for the worse for us. But it was not like we had many other options. Bowyer gets it right more times than wrong.
Oh well. Still competing, and there's literally no chance we will go down I think.
i know an option. don't bother bringing him on.
Im interested to hear what would you have done instead?
anything instead of playing him basically. this isn't the first crap performance he has given coming on from the bench. i'm left baffled at what Aneke actually thinks he is contributing to the team when he's out there watching what the others are trying to do.
BREAKING: Lee Bowyer has revealed that Jonny Williams is set for a couple of months on the side-lines after having an operation on his knee yesterday. #CAFC
He also says that the injury suffered by Sam Field this evening does not look promising. Jake Forster-Caskey’s injury was to his hamstring so could also be bad news. #CAFC
Full expect him not to. What did the players do wrong that deserved being layed into for?
While conceding from a long ball in the 98th is just shit, they don't. Sorry mate I'm just pissed off
I understand that. But imagine you are a player, who has run his socks off in the pissing rain for 90 minutes after we had to make 2 early subs due to injuries. You've just narrowly lost and competed against a team expected to finish near the top of the table, in a league where your team was fully expected to finish bottom.
Furthermore you're actually only a few points off the top of the table, and week in week out you've been running your socks off and running through walls for the manager. Completely defying peoples expectations.
Then you narrowly lose this game, and the first thing your manager does is give you the hairdryer treatment? How would that make you feel?
Fortunately Bowyer has earned the respect of his players and created that team spirit by being level headed and considered in the way he talks to players.
Decent battling display and some periods in which we knocked it about well, but we lacked our usual energy and fluency. The injuries were a major factor but quite a few players, notably including the usually high energy Conor Gallagher, looked a bit jaded. Very unlucky not to take a point but defending was naive at the end and we got punished. That will happen in this league much more often than in L1, where lesser players spurn opportunities more readily. Let's hope we get a few of the injured players back for the weekend, because we'll need to be better at West Brom if we want to come away with anything.
The disappointing aspects for me were that we should have been out of sight if we’d taken our chances against a side that were much less good than I expected. We were unlucky with the injuries which meant that we couldn’t freshen it up on the hour like we normally do. But if you don’t take your chances you have to take what’s coming and if Dillon hadn’t played a blinder we’d have shipped four or five which would have been a travesty on the balance of play. But our profligacy cost us and we can’t blame anyone else for that much as we’d like to put it on the ref who in reality was ok. A harsh lesson. We need a bounce.
Well - against Fulham, we could've lost in a similar fashion and been disappointed. Against Brentford, there was some last ditch defending, and we came away with the win. Against Blackburn, perhaps it was a bit of a smash and grab, too.
It's a bit of a pattern, and I would venture - hopefully not totally incorrectly - that it's because we play hard for 70-75 minutes, and then we seem to be knackered. I've seen it more than once: we don't seem to pace ourselves to last the whole 90. Today was exacerbated by injuries and it being midweek, but... I don't think it's wrong to say something like this may have been coming. Hopefully this isn't symptomatic of a too-tired squad come late March, or so, and we have nothing in the tank for the run-in.
This wasn't deserved. A draw would have been fair. But we were vulnerable because we were tired, due to a combination of factors, not least of which is the high-press, fast attack/counter-attack philosophy we play in.
Ref wasn't good but can't blame the result on him, unless the handball I went up for instantly in the first half was indeed a handball - in which case he's missed it massively. Booked FAR too many players but got the red (which was obvious) correct.
Shit, this. Injuries are ominous. But we go again - hopefully we can keep fighting well.
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We know Bow is very focused on rotation and with Leko out on Sat (and the obvious substitution) he opted instead for Kayal who had been outstanding.
Going forward we didn’t make the most of our opportunities and Bonne should have done better with the one on one just after he scored but his goal was a good finish and considering where he’s come from that is nitpicking.
Lockyear and Pearce looked solid as did Osijala and Dills had a good game I thought. Cullen and Gallagher played well, Kayal looked off the pace and Field was doing ok until his injury.
a gutting defeat but totally avoidable in my opinion and we can only blame ourselves.
Losing 2 key players early.
Going 1 up.
Bows making a key sub replacing Kayal with Aneke.
And it almost paid off as both Pratley and Bonne could have put us 2 up.
That would probably have killed off the game.
Instead City go up the other end and score a scrappy goal. Fine margins.
So, backs to the wall as our midfield has been weakened.
And then that killer at the end.
Sick, sick, sick. We didn't deserve that. And, no one can be blamed.
Go to bed. Wake up in the morning and rationalise your thoughts.
We are not going to win every game. Some decisions by the management or individual players will not come off. Some teams will beat us. We will beat others when we do not necessarily deserve to.
We have the lowest budget in the most difficult and challenging league in Europe. We are over performing game in, game out. Our squad is made up mainly of decent League 1/ lower Championship standard players.
We are not fighting for promotion but avoiding relegation.
Please get back to the real world.
My one issue with him is it feels like I am playing FIFA 2008 when I see him play, just cut backs followed by more cut backs. That tactic always got you space in FIFA. Does not work in professional football, go figure.
He'll sort it out at training when everybody is calm and rational.
Didnt actually need to go at Half-Time
BREAKING: Lee Bowyer has revealed that Jonny Williams is set for a couple of months on the side-lines after having an operation on his knee yesterday. #CAFC
He also says that the injury suffered by Sam Field this evening does not look promising. Jake Forster-Caskey’s injury was to his hamstring so could also be bad news. #CAFC
really don’t get the Leko hate, I like him and he causes problems
Furthermore you're actually only a few points off the top of the table, and week in week out you've been running your socks off and running through walls for the manager. Completely defying peoples expectations.
Then you narrowly lose this game, and the first thing your manager does is give you the hairdryer treatment? How would that make you feel?
Fortunately Bowyer has earned the respect of his players and created that team spirit by being level headed and considered in the way he talks to players.
And 100 minutes added on to the 2nd half.
Total of 106 minutes.
It's a bit of a pattern, and I would venture - hopefully not totally incorrectly - that it's because we play hard for 70-75 minutes, and then we seem to be knackered. I've seen it more than once: we don't seem to pace ourselves to last the whole 90. Today was exacerbated by injuries and it being midweek, but... I don't think it's wrong to say something like this may have been coming. Hopefully this isn't symptomatic of a too-tired squad come late March, or so, and we have nothing in the tank for the run-in.
This wasn't deserved. A draw would have been fair. But we were vulnerable because we were tired, due to a combination of factors, not least of which is the high-press, fast attack/counter-attack philosophy we play in.
Ref wasn't good but can't blame the result on him, unless the handball I went up for instantly in the first half was indeed a handball - in which case he's missed it massively. Booked FAR too many players but got the red (which was obvious) correct.
Shit, this. Injuries are ominous. But we go again - hopefully we can keep fighting well.