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Sheffield Wednesday v Charlton Athletic | Wednesday 26 Feb | Post-match Thread

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    Where is Aneke?
    Who gives a fuck?  Although I do recognise the point you’re making 😀
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    edited February 2020
    Mid-week oop North - a standard Charlton showing in the circumstances. Thought we'd nicked a point here, gut wrenching way to lose, but we deserved it. Back 4/5 was creaking all game, and when they brought on those two man mountains and started hoofing it we just could handle it. They should've had 4 or 5.

    Never seen a team so consistently terrible at clearing their lines. Virtually every header or hoofed clearance gets miss hit and lands right back in the danger zone or is straight at an opponent. We've been doing it for months. Felt sorry for Taylor and Bonne, both barely had a pass land withing 5 yards of them all night.

    Midfield was too deep again - only when Lapslie came on and actually started pressing them and competing for second balls did we look remotely like we might get a foothold in the game.

    And then with them overloading the flanks and having two giants to aim at, we did virtually nothing to try and change shape or stem the flow. Somethings not quite right with Bows at the moment. He was so proactive when he first got into management, but this season he's become steadily less proactive and reactive, and in a couple of recent games he's seemed virtually paralyzed.

    It has to be the diamond and Lapslie has to start on Saturday. I think Deji and Sarr deserve a go together - Lockyer is suspended anyway but he's been struggling recently and Pearce looks done. Neither Deji or Sarr inspire 100% confidence but they've been the best of the bunch recently. People worry about our defence when we play fast skillful teams, but they look ever so much more vulnerable when they are asked to play against big direct sides like Wednesday - hardly surprising when only Pearce was over 6 foot, and he's only just, at that.

    Lots of twists and turns to come - this won't be settled until May. It's still in our hands though.
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    We are good enough to stay up but the manager, who I honestly believed was a front foot one, has transformed into a back foot one. We are not reliable enough defensively to be a back foot team. A village idiot would be able to work that one out so why can't Bowyer?
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    sammy391 said:
    God send that Wigan are away at West Brom on Saturday
    The way they are playing they will probably beat them 
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    I like them both but the prospect of Deji and Naby together gives me nightmares...
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    HandG said:
    I like them both but the prospect of Deji and Naby together gives me nightmares...
    Well all the other combinations aren't exactly doing the business are they?

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    Pratly should be played on saturday,even if he is on crutches,that has to be an improvement on our midfield.
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    Rossman92 said:


    Loads of respect lost for him tonight, fuck off
    He uses that line so many times it's getting boring. Just say we were dogshite and he got it wrong. 
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    What I find pathetic is Matt Southall tweeted a GIF of the Connor McGregor cocky walk after deadline day. What on Earth was he happy about, we have bought in bang average and I mean average players in Jan, pathetic window, pathetic team, no midfield, defence is a joke. But don’t worry we have players coming back from injury don’t we ....? 

    Bang bang in trouble. Oh, and we’ll lose Saturday. 
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    edited February 2020
    Scoham said:
    He might as well have got a red instead.
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    Agree the set up and game mangement was wrong tonight,but this is no time to be slaughtering the manager,if he feels he has lost the crowd,this will run right through the club and that is the last thing we need.
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    Bowyer's had a badun, and done the text book cliched interview after and, while he certainly ain't above critism, the scenario we're now in was odds on gonna be the case at this point of the season, before a ball was even kicked.

    Forever the optimist and all that.....
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    Lockyer's not been good recently anyway so not all that bothered. 
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    J BLOCK said:
    What I find pathetic is Matt Southall tweeted a GIF of the Connor McGregor cocky walk after deadline day. What on Earth was he happy about, we have bought in bang average and I mean average players in Jan, pathetic window, pathetic team, no midfield, defence is a joke. But don’t worry we have players coming back from injury don’t we ....? 

    Bang bang in trouble. Oh, and we’ll lose Saturday. 
    No need for that. Matt Smith will come good soon, his experience and quality will really help us in this relegation battle.
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    1StevieG said:
    sammy391 said:
    God send that Wigan are away at West Brom on Saturday
    The way they are playing they will probably beat them 
    I’m sorry but to suggest that Wigan coming up against West Brom is a godsend is nothing short of ridiculous! Even West Brom are dodgy whilst being top of the league! This crazy division throws up shocks every gameweek! Would not be at all surprised if they got a result there Saturday and fair play to them if they do! 
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    Scoham said:

    Not great timing, was a harsh booking too.
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    Getting very tight now. A few weeks ago it looked like we only needed 45 or 46 points to be safe, but with all the bottom teams bar Boro now regularly picking up points it's now looking like we might need 50 or possibly even more to be safe. At least we still have some "winnable" home games to come which is just as well, as bar the Forest win we have been atrocious away from home for months. I'm still hopeful we will just about get over the line but far less confident now.
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    Huge weekend coming up. We absolutely have to get something on Saturday. Many of the teams around us are playing one another, whilst others are playing 3 of the top 4. 

    We’re away at Huddersfield, both on 39 points.

    Wigan away at West Brom.

    Luton at home to Stoke.

    Barnsley away at Reading.

    Hull at home to Leeds.

    Middlesbrough home to Forest.
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    Where is Aneke?
    Who gives a fuck?  Although I do recognise the point you’re making 😀

    Would've been a more useful option than McGeady tonight. Might have at least added some height to defend set pieces.
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    4-4-2 Diamond next game please. Also start Green with Taylor as I feel like those two have a better understanding. From the players we have fit I'd like to see us start like this. 

                          Phillips
    Matthews Deji Pearce Purrington
                          Davis
                   Cullen Lapslie
                        Oztumer
                    Taylor Green

    Then can bring on McGeady or Doughty in the second half if we need players to run at there defence. 


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    CH4RLTON said:
    Newd pratley back ASAP
    Preferably with clothes thank you 
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    edited February 2020
    Disappointing

    Up until that Pearce slip it was a great defensive display not just from Phillips but the whole of the back five (Matthews | Pearce | Lockyer | Oshilaja)

    Dunno what went wrong tonight, we started on the front foot but the referee's constantly poor decisions gave Wednesday a chance to take the game which they duly did

    Of course we had plenty of time to regroup and subs could have been better

    We move on to the next
    Utter drivel. If Wednesday could finish they would have beaten us 3 or 4 nil comfortably. We on the other hand never looked like scoring once.
    Other than Taylor hitting the crossbar, and the point blank effort that was blocked. 
    Had we carried on pressing, rather than trying to ‘do a professional job’, we might have got something from the game. We’ve been far too negative in selection and tactics on far too many occasions this season. 
    The ref was appalling, which didn’t help. 
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    Hopefully Sarr is back as he is our best defender and we play more positively when he is in the side. 
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    Only way to keep it light is that we are Jekyll and Hyde. 

    Somebody made a very good point that the teams around us are winning by not adopting a negative approach to games. 
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    Croydon said:
    Imagine having a free kick at the death and not going for it, then they go and show what can happen when you stick it in the box.

    That is all on Bowyer, tactics wrong from start to finish. Fuck off. 
    Have a day off
    Room for one more mate? I'm converted...
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