The very fact that we've played probably 3 of the worst sides in the division (on current form) and not even looked like scoring a goal, tells you we're well and truly f*cked now.
If we were creating chances and making a fight of it, i might think differently but the fact is we're losing with a whimper to poor sides.
What on earth are Brentford and Millwall going to do to us?
Wish we could start with a formation which puts the opposition under a bit of pressure. Instead it is us chopping and changing each game! Sorely lacking creative quality and we will all look back at that transfer window and agree it was hot air and useless
Another suggestion would be to bring in a sports psychologist and potentially a hypnotherapist... Whatever it takes to bring about some self belief again.
This with bells on. We need a sports psychologist to come in and motivate the boys. They’re so devoid of confidence at the moment
What a waste of time it all is. We were done for in the transfer window and thats when it became clear that this bunch are up there with the Spivs, Roland and Sunley as rubbish owners. Was Mouthall there today?
Ridiculous comment to be making, even considering the poor form we're in.
Ridiculous perhaps, but could well be true! Probably the most avoidable relegation ever experienced. Only fools would go out and buy something they can not afford to run, thrashing their acquisition within days of taking it on. Seems quite a ridiculous thing to do, does it not?
Love that no one is blaming the players and management and instead it's ESI's fault.
Weird.
Today Taylor went over too easily a few times, I don't believe he dived, but should have had a penalty.
Bonne needs to find that left peg again, scored with it earlier in the season, afraid to pass with it since returning.
Green I thought played well.
Pearce leaves us exposed often, but today he was hindered more often by Oshilaja.
Oshilaja had one good pass all game and it was very good.
No sympathy for ESI. They made loud noises and totally failed to deliver. We did no better in that transfer window than if Roland has still been here. Bowyer and the players needed help, but they ended up with a bunch of bargain basement signings who weakened us rather than strengthen.
Players gave what they had today. They fought for the ball and tried to find the break through but the quality is not there in this team, at least not consistently.
ESI either don’t have the funds (my gut feeling) or they gambled and lost. Either way, they’re reaping what they sowed and I don’t see why any Charlton fan should be thankful to them when, at current, we were more financially secure, equally funded, and the club and estate had not been riskily split up under Roland.
Right now, we’re actually worse off under ESI but it’s okay because Matt Southall comes to the matches and says nice things on Twitter. Never mind the huge gamble being played with the club’s future.
What a waste of time it all is. We were done for in the transfer window and thats when it became clear that this bunch are up there with the Spivs, Roland and Sunley as rubbish owners. Was Mouthall there today?
Ridiculous comment to be making, even considering the poor form we're in.
Think what you like mate, I really don't care. Lets see if they are still there next season and if they do buy the ground. I suppose you are right though at least the Spivs and Roland owned the Valley and Sparrows Lane. If you cannot see that we needed to properly strengthen in January to prevent the rapid slide to relegation then I want what you are drinking.
That was grim didn't win a first ball or second all day...centre halves are at best league 1...bowyer has no plan b....Cullen and Williams were rubbish. ..what the hell has gone wrong.
What a waste of time it all is. We were done for in the transfer window and thats when it became clear that this bunch are up there with the Spivs, Roland and Sunley as rubbish owners. Was Mouthall there today?
Ridiculous comment to be making, even considering the poor form we're in.
Ridiculous perhaps, but could well be true! Probably the most avoidable relegation ever experienced. Only fools would go out and buy something they can not afford to run, thrashing their acquisition within days of taking it on. Seems quite a ridiculous thing to do, does it not?
So would have been better to have kept Roland in January then?
I wonder what our business would have looked like had that happened
What a waste of time it all is. We were done for in the transfer window and thats when it became clear that this bunch are up there with the Spivs, Roland and Sunley as rubbish owners. Was Mouthall there today?
Ridiculous comment to be making, even considering the poor form we're in.
Ridiculous perhaps, but could well be true! Probably the most avoidable relegation ever experienced. Only fools would go out and buy something they can not afford to run, thrashing their acquisition within days of taking it on. Seems quite a ridiculous thing to do, does it not?
Considering this is likely to be one of the toughest seasons to stay up in this league, regarding points required, I disagree with your "probably the most avoidable relegation ever experienced".
We can moan all we like but the fact it we don’t have the quality or players to stay up .
The new owners gambled by not gambling in the transfer window . Whether that’s because that was the plan or they have no money is up for debate ( I think the latter ) but I really can’t see us staying up if the last three games are anything to go by .
We can say ‘second half was better’ but at this stage of the season it’s just not good enough. To offer another absolute gift of a goal again, and to line up in the wrong formation again and have to change it after 30 minutes again. They were passing it around us like we weren’t even there! Even in the second half, we huffed and puffed but they still had the better chances and many more of them. It was rubbish.
They had more chances, but nearly every one was speculative and every one was wasted.
Nothing going for us at the moment, but at least Wigan's winning streak has been halted.
Take it you missed then the three crosses across our six yard box that just needed a tap in, a decent save from Dills and another that just wouldn't come down for their player. None of them were speculative. They created far more than us, they passed around us all game and deserved to win.
Sorry, did they even get shots off on those?
To say they deserved to win is simple fact no matter how many 'chances' you have if you don't score you don't deserve to win. If your opponent scores and you can't score one more than them, you don't deserve to win.
Sheffield Wednesday, Huddersfield and Middlesbrough.
3 games, 3 defeats, 0 goals scored.
Simply pathetic.
All lies with Bowyer too. He's setting us up far too negatively and making reactive changes when it's far too late. Second half was better but, let's be honest, they were still carving us open every time they had the ball.
They were panicking when we attacked too. It wasn't entirely one sided.
Poor first half, much better 2nd but still not good enough. Players body language looked a bit defeated from the off. I never think that 1 player can make a difference - but boy do we miss Gallagher’s energy and never give up attitude!
We can moan all we like but the fact it we don’t have the quality or players to stay up .
The new owners gambled by not gambling in the transfer window . Whether that’s because that was the plan or they have no money is up for debate ( I think the latter ) but I really can’t see us staying up if the last three games are anything to go by .
Weren’t they going to spend £1m on Maddison? Haven’t they given Bowyer a new contract?
This thread often goes into meltdown after a defeat. Well today that's fully justified. I've been supporting this club since the 60s and I know what a relegation side loos like.
We have absolutely no chance of staying up. Fuckin rubbish.
It's not totally justified. We've played better today than the last two and were undone by a mistake. Again.
The players need to start shouldering the blame, as does Bowyer.
Deserved a draw but got nothing. Still don't believe we're down, but if we don't pick up 4 more wins we will be gone
If you honestly believe we deserved a draw I honestly don't know what to say to you.
What a waste of time it all is. We were done for in the transfer window and thats when it became clear that this bunch are up there with the Spivs, Roland and Sunley as rubbish owners. Was Mouthall there today?
Ridiculous comment to be making, even considering the poor form we're in.
Think what you like mate, I really don't care. Lets see if they are still there next season and if they do buy the ground. I suppose you are right though at least the Spivs and Roland owned the Valley and Sparrows Lane. If you cannot see that we needed to properly strengthen in January to prevent the rapid slide to relegation then I want what you are drinking.
It was more your comment of "this bunch are up there with the Spivs, Roland and Sunley as rubbish owners" that was ridiculous.
I'm well aware we needed to strengthen in Jan, and that Southall clearly got carried away on social media, but if I remember correctly only Huddersfield strengthened well from all the bottom sides. So don't see how it's all ESI fault, Jan is notoriously a tough time to bring in good quality players, without us needing to convince them to join a relegation fight for 5 months.
We can moan all we like but the fact it we don’t have the quality or players to stay up .
The new owners gambled by not gambling in the transfer window . Whether that’s because that was the plan or they have no money is up for debate ( I think the latter ) but I really can’t see us staying up if the last three games are anything to go by .
Weren’t they going to spend £1m on Maddison? Haven’t they given Bowyer a new contract?
Is that your idea of gambling , giving the manager a contract?
Bowyer said they didn’t bid a million for anyone .
What a waste of time it all is. We were done for in the transfer window and thats when it became clear that this bunch are up there with the Spivs, Roland and Sunley as rubbish owners. Was Mouthall there today?
Ridiculous comment to be making, even considering the poor form we're in.
Ridiculous perhaps, but could well be true! Probably the most avoidable relegation ever experienced. Only fools would go out and buy something they can not afford to run, thrashing their acquisition within days of taking it on. Seems quite a ridiculous thing to do, does it not?
Considering this is likely to be one of the toughest seasons to stay up in this league, regarding points required, I disagree with your "probably the most avoidable relegation ever experienced".
Did it look as tough at the start of January as it does tonight?
The diamond has been found out, certainly with the players we have right now. We've got to set up more solidly and the players need a system that is simple enough to be effective.
None of this sitting deep, not getting out of our own half and allowing the oppo to press We can't be playing a short passing game in tight areas close to our own box. It's suicidal.
Need to get the spine of the team right - Locks is back next game, hopefully Nabster too.
Who have we got who is going to dominate the middle of the park - yeah, physically if necessary? Then a more creative player alongside him.
And then up front, we need to hold the ball up better. Plus add a little pace and penetration, with ability to cross the ball.
For crying out loud, corners and set pieces need to find our man. There's no threat.
Lee, if you're really stuck for ideas, pick up the phone and talk to Curbs. Or even your mate Jonathan Woodgate .... today he had more idea than you.
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If we were creating chances and making a fight of it, i might think differently but the fact is we're losing with a whimper to poor sides.
What on earth are Brentford and Millwall going to do to us?
Players gave what they had today. They fought for the ball and tried to find the break through but the quality is not there in this team, at least not consistently.
ESI either don’t have the funds (my gut feeling) or they gambled and lost. Either way, they’re reaping what they sowed and I don’t see why any Charlton fan should be thankful to them when, at current, we were more financially secure, equally funded, and the club and estate had not been riskily split up under Roland.
Right now, we’re actually worse off under ESI but it’s okay because Matt Southall comes to the matches and says nice things on Twitter. Never mind the huge gamble being played with the club’s future.
Huge game next weekend
Miserable
I wonder what our business would have looked like had that happened
Considering this is likely to be one of the toughest seasons to stay up in this league, regarding points required, I disagree with your "probably the most avoidable relegation ever experienced".
The new owners gambled by not gambling in the transfer window . Whether that’s because that was the plan or they have no money is up for debate ( I think the latter ) but I really can’t see us staying up if the last three games are anything to go by .
To say they deserved to win is simple fact no matter how many 'chances' you have if you don't score you don't deserve to win. If your opponent scores and you can't score one more than them, you don't deserve to win.
I agree Bowyer set us up all wrong.
It was more your comment of "this bunch are up there with the Spivs, Roland and Sunley as rubbish owners" that was ridiculous.
I'm well aware we needed to strengthen in Jan, and that Southall clearly got carried away on social media, but if I remember correctly only Huddersfield strengthened well from all the bottom sides. So don't see how it's all ESI fault, Jan is notoriously a tough time to bring in good quality players, without us needing to convince them to join a relegation fight for 5 months.
The diamond has been found out, certainly with the players we have right now.
We've got to set up more solidly and the players need a system that is simple enough to be effective.
None of this sitting deep, not getting out of our own half and allowing the oppo to press
We can't be playing a short passing game in tight areas close to our own box. It's suicidal.
Need to get the spine of the team right - Locks is back next game, hopefully Nabster too.
Who have we got who is going to dominate the middle of the park - yeah, physically if necessary?
Then a more creative player alongside him.
And then up front, we need to hold the ball up better.
Plus add a little pace and penetration, with ability to cross the ball.
For crying out loud, corners and set pieces need to find our man.
There's no threat.
Lee, if you're really stuck for ideas, pick up the phone and talk to Curbs.
Or even your mate Jonathan Woodgate .... today he had more idea than you.