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Charlton v Millwall | Fri 03 Jul 2020| Post-match thread
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If if if... Its not helping us. All said and done I'd accept relegation if we could have decent owners and investment fact!
I think it will take a miracle to survive now and I agree with other posters bring in Davison as it looks like we have a front two of the Simon Church brothers!1 -
I am trying to do my bet to retrieve our desperate situation.
£10 treble on Huddersfield, Stoke and Boro today.
Hopefully I've cursed all three as my normal betting record mirrors that of Charlton against Millwall.4 -
Yes, when you think about it it's a miracle we weren't dead and buried shortly after Christmas.Sillybilly said:
Pretty much sums it up. Given all the background basket casery and minus Taylor, Gallagher and Leko, the fact that we are not 20 points adrift already with this squad is an absolute miracle. Bowyer, for all his ultra defensive approach and tinkering is doing something right. .cabbles said:We can dig out Bonne all we like, but he’s a young lad who’s just made the jump from the National League to one rung under one of the top 3 divisions in the world.
he may not be good enough for this level, but he’s trying his best. Hemed is well past his best, but he does try to link up play. They’re good examples of the wider problem that has engulfed us over the last 6 years and counting, no leadership at the top and underinvestment. One is a young lad we took a gamble on through our decent scouting network, the other is someone who has had a pedigree in this league in the past but is unable to produce anywhere near what we need from him.
last night our whole situation is summed up watching McGeady huff and puff to show that promise that he delivered before he was 30. He was the one player on the pitch from our Jan transfer window activity and the super duper phone. Says it all really
objectively, Millwall were very organised and set up very well tactically. We struggled to get to grips with their 5 in midfield and Wallace, Romeo and Smith looked very good.Someone like Fulham should be looking at Jed Wallace rather than spending millions on foreign talent their supporters have never heard of. For me he can do a job at a top championship side
Bowyer has worked wonders to keep us in with a theoretical chance of staying up for as long as he has.8 -
Think I’ll do the very same bet. Got to get something out of our Charlton miseryLenGlover said:I am trying to do my bet to retrieve our desperate situation.
£10 treble on Huddersfield, Stoke and Boro today.
Hopefully I've cursed all three as my normal betting record mirrors that of Charlton against Millwall.1 -
Only one scapegoat for last nights result.
Lyle Taylor.
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Been going over the game in my head and I really think we're overreacting based on the opponent, any other side and people would be less stressed about it.6
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After the aggro we went through to get Hemed, I think he's been our major disappointment. I thought our strikers were out of position most of the game because everyone was having to defend. Not questioning how hard they worked, but they were knackered whenever they got in front of goal. Millwall were faster to the ball almost all over the pitch, and our coming up opponents will have seen our lack of pace and will line up with that in mind. Aneke seemed to make a bit of difference, and I'd like to see him and Naby up front together, if only to stretch our opponents a bit.1
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We have to trust LB but it shows up how much of a bad hand he's been given. Survival will be a miracle anything less and I think he'll go.. You can only do so much with nothing.0
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Exactly. And the ultra defensive approach is born out of necessity.Sillybilly said:
Pretty much sums it up. Given all the background basket casery and minus Taylor, Gallagher and Leko, the fact that we are not 20 points adrift already with this squad is an absolute miracle. Bowyer, for all his ultra defensive approach and tinkering is doing something right. .cabbles said:We can dig out Bonne all we like, but he’s a young lad who’s just made the jump from the National League to one rung under one of the top 3 divisions in the world.
he may not be good enough for this level, but he’s trying his best. Hemed is well past his best, but he does try to link up play. They’re good examples of the wider problem that has engulfed us over the last 6 years and counting, no leadership at the top and underinvestment. One is a young lad we took a gamble on through our decent scouting network, the other is someone who has had a pedigree in this league in the past but is unable to produce anywhere near what we need from him.
last night our whole situation is summed up watching McGeady huff and puff to show that promise that he delivered before he was 30. He was the one player on the pitch from our Jan transfer window activity and the super duper phone. Says it all really
objectively, Millwall were very organised and set up very well tactically. We struggled to get to grips with their 5 in midfield and Wallace, Romeo and Smith looked very good.Someone like Fulham should be looking at Jed Wallace rather than spending millions on foreign talent their supporters have never heard of. For me he can do a job at a top championship sideSomeone mentioned earlier Bow is a conservative manager. That may be true to an extent, but I think it’s down to players at his disposal. Last season he played a forward thinking style imo and that was down to having Taylor, Grant, Williams, Bielik, Aribo etc and playing teams in a poorer league
Arguably our squad is weaker than it was this time last year in a higher division. That’s a tough ask. I feel the frustration of not beating Millwall again, but this time it wasn’t a case of bottle for me, it was simply a lack of ability10 -
Honestly, the thing that worries me is how much it just washes over me. We are never going to beat them, once you make peace with that then life is easier.Fortune 82nd Minute said:Woke up still feeling fed up about last night.
Just read through the entire post match comments and now feel totally depressed!1 -
Lyle Taylor’s a Wanker - the rest are league 1 standard at best
hemed is a donkey
only decent player is cullen the rest are shocking and maybe need to revaluate there career choices.1 -
In the cold light of day, nothing to get too worried about.
We totally bossed first 30 of the 2nd half. Needed to score, knew when we didn't that the sucker punch was coming.
I take heart in the fact we matched them for effort and energy mostly.
Don't want to see Bonne paired with Hemed again. Too similar. Need a quicker, poacher-style ST playing as a foil. Unfortunately, we don't have one in the building.
Feel very sorry for Dillion Phillips. One mistake in an otherwise perfect game. Wasnt even that bad a howler, just not great and fell straight to the CB. Lockyer had a similar, slightly harder chance in first half, which is still in orbit.
Very fine margins. Wasn't a terrible performance but the end result leaves us feeling shite.
What price we get all the luck back against Brentford?
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Trying to figure what LB will do at Brentford? Another Cardiff or keep it the same with a couple of changes?0
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Please, please someone tell me we were not as bad as this in previous three games. I had looked forward to watching them live and quite honestly I was so fed up and frustrated with the performance I thought I better wait until today to comment. Passing terrible, so called goal scorers, non existent, do we practice crossing the ball in opponents penalty area, it seems everyone was over hit. We moaned about Church but Hemed is worse, at least Church worked hard to defend, Hemed was with the goalscorer until it went into our penalty area and he stopped, WHY? If the starting 11 was our best 11 then I can only come to one conclusion, RELEGATION1
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Molumby and Cooper could/should both have been red carded for fouls on Morgan .. Molumby's elbow assault deserved to be rewarded with a broken leg .. dirty bastard ..
it's all been said .. we lacked a goal threat albeit against a rock solid and ruthless defence .. Oshilaja is a grafter but is one footed, the wrong foot for a left back .. Pearce and Lockyer are wholehearted but lack height (yes I know that Chris Perry was a spring heeled Tom Thumb) .. midfielders never look like scoring but work hard and never give up
Good points .. we were up against a determined and dirty side who are on a mission to get to the play offs .. history was on their side .. we have conceded just 1 goal in 4 games .. we are still above the drop zone and our fellow strugglers have tough games this week (as do we at Brentford) .. someone just MUST start scoring soon .. Bowyer is managing the team well and it seems that team morale is still high .. the squad have all had a run out and there are few injured players
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It was a narrow yet definite defeat.
We have to move on to the next one, and the one after that and so on.
The sole aim is to try to survive.4 -
Decent fireworks, mind, looked alright from my back window.5
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Philips is best gk in the championship apart from big games - you know local derbies and Wembley play off finals0
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Have calmed down a bit now , our record against the scum is getting silly now . On reflection , we again created some decent chances but our forwards just aren't championship quality . Bonne and Hemed have had enough chances , I would give Davison and Aneke a chance at Brentford . Williams in for McGeady as well , and keep the rest of the team as it is .2
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Agree with you here!bobmunro said:I deliberately didn't post last night as I would probably have got a ban!Now I've slept on it and feel more philosophical - although my first words when I woke up were still 'F*cking Millwall'.We pretty much got what we deserved and, tactically, Bowyer had an off night - it happens.I still take the view that our record against Millwall is nothing more than a statistical aberration, historical performances are meaningless to compare - shit happens.Why didn't we end the 24 years of hurt? Because Millwall are a much stronger side physically, have some very useful Championship players, and our play maker, Cullen, had perhaps his most ineffective game for Charlton. I'm not convinced many of our players would get into that Millwall side, whereas I would have Smith (a nightmare to defend against - always has been), Romeo (very useful player), Mitchell (looked very tasty when he came on), Cooper (better than our two CB by a mile, although the tackle on Albie was naughty) and Jed Wallace who was the best player on the pitch for me.Maybe we could have nicked a draw, but in no way did we deserve to win. Open your eyes, Bows! I also agree with MF - stone wall penalty in the first half.Overall the game was a piss poor affair - no passion, an emotionless South London derby.You just knew we were going to get nothing last night and as soon as Bonne missed the one on one, you may as well have turned the tv off then!I have to give credit to Millwall, they are so effective at what they do. I also agree that not many of our players would get into their side, bar Matthews in for Romeo who’s final product is woeful!I do worry where we will get the goals from but again it was fine margins last night, like our other two games and I honestly think we will nick another couple of draws and a win!Don’t dwell, move on!1 -
But we're unbeaten against the top 6, so you never know.golfaddick said:
This. Can't see us getting anything from Brentford & Leeds. All comes down to the games against Reading, Birmingham & Wigan. Need to win 2 of those.Wheresmeticket? said:I really don't really give a toss that it was M***wall. It's the points dropped and losing the clean sheet that matters2 -
Ah, that explains why we lost then, the lack of atmosphereOllywozere said:
Last night’s crowd noise was all controlled by Sky and was only on the broadcast. We weren’t allowed to pipe any through into the stadium itself.oohaahmortimer said:
Ollywozereoohaahmortimer said:Where did the crowd noise come from on Sky last night?
Didn’t we produce our own for the QPR fixture?
last night I could hear Naby Sarr being sung and millwall millwall millwall millwall
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Really wish people would stop making excuses for these spineless gutless performances we were shit last night let’s be honest - and this was a derby we were “ up for” whatever that means reminds me of the Mk dons game a few season back when I think we got dicked 3-04
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Took a little time to reflect before posting.
im very proud of the team and our manager, they are all together in this and give 100%. We defended well last night Pratley, Matthews, Phillips, Pearce and Cullen were the stand out players for me. We really can’t ask more of the players, unfortunately the talent just isn’t there going forward .A draw would have been the fair result, so if we can continue to keep games nice and tight I’d be hopeful we can scrape another couple of 1-0 wins together which maybe enough to keep us up.One final point it’s great that we are back playing football let’s keep our fingers crossed that no matter what the outcome in the last 5 games that we can keep our manager and we find a decent ownership in the next 6 months.4 -
Millwall have an easy run in & could well make the play offs.golfaddick said:And will people stop taking about Millwall getting into the play-offs. They are bang average & will lucky to be top 10. No doubt they will lose against the teams down with us.0 -
Problem now is if we get done by 2-3 goals on tuesday,thats the superior goal difference out of the window.0
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Not wishing to provoke yourself or anyone else but the team feels like it’s put together with sticky tape. Thought they gave everything but just do not have the quality going forward.palarsehater said:Really wish people would stop making excuses for these spineless gutless performances we were shit last night let’s be honest - and this was a derby we were “ up for” whatever that means reminds me of the Mk dons game a few season back when I think we got dicked 3-04 -
Hate to say it but I hope they do as we desperately need them to beat the team's around us 😳Covered End said:
Millwall have an easy run in & could well make the play offs.golfaddick said:And will people stop taking about Millwall getting into the play-offs. They are bang average & will lucky to be top 10. No doubt they will lose against the teams down with us.2
