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Charlton v Reading | Post-match thread | 11/07/2020

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,747
    Think this is Benjy's own opinion rather than a Bowyer quote but agree with him

    If Morgan cant do the basics that Bowyer demands here at Charlton, what other Championship club will want him?
    I don't know who you are Benjy but I think you should shut up! 
    Benjy does a number of articles for the OS
  • ct_addick said:
    Bowyer has lost it. Once you start naming mistakes by players.  We are done.
    Not necessarily.

    I agree comments like his about Morgan would probably be better kept in the dressing room, but he isn't saying it because he dislikes Morgan, he's saying it because he wants him to learn.

    Morgan can either sulk about it, or listen to his manager who had a career at the top level and up his game and become a better player. 
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Just to highlight our dominance without scoring:

    Charlton XG : 1.67
    Reading XG : 0.45 + 1 pen
    This is the real issue today. Yes the ref and assistant cocked up but not scoring at all from any of the multiple very good chances created is not good enough. I feel like in the past few games it was hard to be harsh on the strikers as we really created very little. We'll the midfield stepped it up today and the strikers offered nothing. I know I know they're not championship level etc etc but regardless of level you can't keep squandering good chances and still call yourself a striker. 
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,559
    Very poor from Bowyer to dig out Morgan. Not the first time either, what about playing Osh lb? 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,205
    Swap the match officials with our forward line and we probably win that 3-1
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,747
    Very poor from Bowyer to dig out Morgan. Not the first time either, what about playing Osh lb? 
    I guess if Morgan is tracking that run then Oshilaja doesnt have to make the rugby tackle

    Thats one of the jobs of a Left / Right Winger in the sense they cover their Full-Back

    Its a shame because I think Morgan would be great at the top of the diamond where he doesnt have to do any defending but we're not currently doing that
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,064
    Oshi is not a left back... He has the mobility of an oil tanker and is clumsy... Fact. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,985
    Very poor from Bowyer to dig out Morgan. Not the first time either, what about playing Osh lb? 
    I guess if Morgan is tracking that run then Oshilaja doesnt have to make the rugby tackle

    Thats one of the jobs of a Left / Right Winger in the sense they cover their Full-Back

    Its a shame because I think Morgan would be great at the top of the diamond where he doesnt have to do any defending but we're not currently doing that
    Oshilaja didn't need to make that tackle as there was a covering defender

    I like Oshilaja, but there's always a rash moment from him when he makes the wrong decision
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,747
    Very poor from Bowyer to dig out Morgan. Not the first time either, what about playing Osh lb? 
    I guess if Morgan is tracking that run then Oshilaja doesnt have to make the rugby tackle

    Thats one of the jobs of a Left / Right Winger in the sense they cover their Full-Back

    Its a shame because I think Morgan would be great at the top of the diamond where he doesnt have to do any defending but we're not currently doing that
    Oshilaja didn't need to make that tackle as there was a covering defender

    I like Oshilaja, but there's always a rash moment from him when he makes the wrong decision
    Was there a covering Defender? - I thought the Reading player was clean through on goal with just Phillips to beat
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,015
    Fucking bollocks from Bowyer digging out Morgan again. 

    You continually drag him yet keep on Bonne who can’t hold up the ball, bring others into play, or finish his chances. And you start him the following game. 

    To rub salt in the wounds, it was Bowyers selection that gave away the pen.

    Thought LB was better than that.

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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,906
    Two shots on target. 

    Says it all 
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,064
    Think this is Benjy's own opinion rather than a Bowyer quote but agree with him

    If Morgan cant do the basics that Bowyer demands here at Charlton, what other Championship club will want him?
    I don't know who you are Benjy but I think you should shut up! 
    Benjy does a number of articles for the OS
    Well to be brutally honest he should know better! 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,209
    Fucking bollocks from Bowyer digging out Morgan again. 

    You continually drag him yet keep on Bonne who can’t hold up the ball, bring others into play, or finish his chances. And you start him the following game. 

    To rub salt in the wounds, it was Bowyers selection that gave away the pen.

    Thought LB was better than that.
    Bonne scores last match to be fair. And he has options for Albie, he doesn’t for Bonne. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,747
    edited July 2020
    Think this is Benjy's own opinion rather than a Bowyer quote but agree with him

    If Morgan cant do the basics that Bowyer demands here at Charlton, what other Championship club will want him?
    I don't know who you are Benjy but I think you should shut up! 
    Benjy does a number of articles for the OS
    Well to be brutally honest he should know better! 
    Why he's not wrong, he's allowed as much of an opinion as me and you as he's using his own twitter account

    You dont have to agree with him, but I'm sorry to tell him to shut up is pathetic

    End of the day Benjy may know more than us about relationships between Manager and Player

    For all we know Morgan may well be sitting in the dressing room thinking that Bowyer was right to make the comments, I'd be impressed if he does as it takes guts to take a public dressing down positively

    Of course if he's not taking it in a positive way then its equally understandable as it can be soul destroying, ultimately we just dont know
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,015
    Fucking bollocks from Bowyer digging out Morgan again. 

    You continually drag him yet keep on Bonne who can’t hold up the ball, bring others into play, or finish his chances. And you start him the following game. 

    To rub salt in the wounds, it was Bowyers selection that gave away the pen.

    Thought LB was better than that.
    Bonne scores last match to be fair. And he has options for Albie, he doesn’t for Bonne. 
    He also has options for a decent left back.....
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,303
    Oshilaja must have dirt on bowyer - he’s a fucking clown 
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961
    Simply not good enough. If Bonne and Aneke are our “goal threats” to keep us up then we might as well throw the towel in now. Oshilaja at LB is laughable. 

    Ref didn’t help us today, but let’s be honest, we are power puff. 
    I’d agree with this. All a bit spineless for me. 
    Didn’t like the line up one bit
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,209
    Fucking bollocks from Bowyer digging out Morgan again. 

    You continually drag him yet keep on Bonne who can’t hold up the ball, bring others into play, or finish his chances. And you start him the following game. 

    To rub salt in the wounds, it was Bowyers selection that gave away the pen.

    Thought LB was better than that.
    Bonne scores last match to be fair. And he has options for Albie, he doesn’t for Bonne. 
    He also has options for a decent left back.....
    Yeah I don’t understand Deji still starting there. Worked for a one off but pointless now. Doughty Purrington and even Sarr better options. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,747
    Fucking bollocks from Bowyer digging out Morgan again. 

    You continually drag him yet keep on Bonne who can’t hold up the ball, bring others into play, or finish his chances. And you start him the following game. 

    To rub salt in the wounds, it was Bowyers selection that gave away the pen.

    Thought LB was better than that.
    Bonne scores last match to be fair. And he has options for Albie, he doesn’t for Bonne. 
    He also has options for a decent left back.....
    Doughty needed to recover from entering the red zone against Brentford on Tuesday so not surprised he didnt start... I'd be surprised if he doesnt against Birmingham

    Purrington on the other hand you have to question if he's not doing enough in training to impress
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,773
    Ref and his officials were a complete disgrace. Should have been 2-1.

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,985
    Very poor from Bowyer to dig out Morgan. Not the first time either, what about playing Osh lb? 
    I guess if Morgan is tracking that run then Oshilaja doesnt have to make the rugby tackle

    Thats one of the jobs of a Left / Right Winger in the sense they cover their Full-Back

    Its a shame because I think Morgan would be great at the top of the diamond where he doesnt have to do any defending but we're not currently doing that
    Oshilaja didn't need to make that tackle as there was a covering defender

    I like Oshilaja, but there's always a rash moment from him when he makes the wrong decision
    Was there a covering Defender? - I thought the Reading player was clean through on goal with just Phillips to beat
    One of the centre backs was covering. If it had been a goal scoring opportunity, Oshilaja would have been booked (at least)
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,985
    ct_addick said:
    ct_addick said:
    ct_addick said:
    Bowyer has lost it. Once you start naming mistakes by players.  We are done.
    He's always naming players!!
    Which is a big fcuking no no.  Especially for a young pro. 
    Why? - He called Bonne out after Millwall who then scored against Brentford
    Don't see the top managers doing that. I am a fan of LB but pressure and stress makes you say things you might regret. I should know.
    I don't like that either. Bonne isn't deliberately missing chances, he may be out of form, lacking confidence or not good enough, but calling him out hardly helps
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,015
    edited July 2020
    Fucking bollocks from Bowyer digging out Morgan again. 

    You continually drag him yet keep on Bonne who can’t hold up the ball, bring others into play, or finish his chances. And you start him the following game. 

    To rub salt in the wounds, it was Bowyers selection that gave away the pen.

    Thought LB was better than that.
    Bonne scores last match to be fair. And he has options for Albie, he doesn’t for Bonne. 
    He also has options for a decent left back.....
    Doughty needed to recover from entering the red zone against Brentford on Tuesday so not surprised he didnt start... I'd be surprised if he doesnt against Birmingham

    Purrington on the other hand you have to question if he's not doing enough in training to impress
    He showed easily enough when coming on to show he could start. Full of energy. 

    Couldn’t stress enough before the game the importance of starting well and getting that first goal.

    Instead, Oshilaja, who is worse than Sarr in that position, let alone Purrington and Doughty, is clumsy and gives away a pen. Then it’s all up hill from then.

    Plus, it’s not like Oshilaja hasn’t shown in previous games he’s a fucking liability there. Do we not learn?
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,695
    Sh** officials, toothless attack; watch the Spanners roll over at Hull and Stoke win tomorrow. 

    How referees can get away with being that poor at this level I don't know. Not fit for non-league. 
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,064
    Think this is Benjy's own opinion rather than a Bowyer quote but agree with him

    If Morgan cant do the basics that Bowyer demands here at Charlton, what other Championship club will want him?
    I don't know who you are Benjy but I think you should shut up! 
    Benjy does a number of articles for the OS
    Well to be brutally honest he should know better! 
    Why he's not wrong, he's allowed as much of an opinion as me and you as he's using his own twitter account

    You dont have to agree with him, but I'm sorry to tell him to shut up is pathetic

    End of the day Benjy may know more than us about relationships between Manager and Player

    For all we know Morgan may well be sitting in the dressing room thinking that Bowyer was right to make the comments, I'd be impressed if he does as it takes guts to take a public dressing down positively

    Of course if he's not taking it in a positive way then its equally understandable as it can be soul destroying, ultimately we just dont know

    Think this is Benjy's own opinion rather than a Bowyer quote but agree with him

    If Morgan cant do the basics that Bowyer demands here at Charlton, what other Championship club will want him?
    I don't know who you are Benjy but I think you should shut up! 
    Benjy does a number of articles for the OS
    Well to be brutally honest he should know better! 
    Why he's not wrong, he's allowed as much of an opinion as me and you as he's using his own twitter account

    You dont have to agree with him, but I'm sorry to tell him to shut up is pathetic

    End of the day Benjy may know more than us about relationships between Manager and Player

    For all we know Morgan may well be sitting in the dressing room thinking that Bowyer was right to make the comments, I'd be impressed if he does as it takes guts to take a public dressing down positively

    Of course if he's not taking it in a positive way then its equally understandable as it can be soul destroying, ultimately we just dont know
    Well I'm angry and I'm allowed an opinion and I gave it. 
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,747
    Think this is Benjy's own opinion rather than a Bowyer quote but agree with him

    If Morgan cant do the basics that Bowyer demands here at Charlton, what other Championship club will want him?
    I don't know who you are Benjy but I think you should shut up! 
    Benjy does a number of articles for the OS
    Well to be brutally honest he should know better! 
    Why he's not wrong, he's allowed as much of an opinion as me and you as he's using his own twitter account

    You dont have to agree with him, but I'm sorry to tell him to shut up is pathetic

    End of the day Benjy may know more than us about relationships between Manager and Player

    For all we know Morgan may well be sitting in the dressing room thinking that Bowyer was right to make the comments, I'd be impressed if he does as it takes guts to take a public dressing down positively

    Of course if he's not taking it in a positive way then its equally understandable as it can be soul destroying, ultimately we just dont know

    Think this is Benjy's own opinion rather than a Bowyer quote but agree with him

    If Morgan cant do the basics that Bowyer demands here at Charlton, what other Championship club will want him?
    I don't know who you are Benjy but I think you should shut up! 
    Benjy does a number of articles for the OS
    Well to be brutally honest he should know better! 
    Why he's not wrong, he's allowed as much of an opinion as me and you as he's using his own twitter account

    You dont have to agree with him, but I'm sorry to tell him to shut up is pathetic

    End of the day Benjy may know more than us about relationships between Manager and Player

    For all we know Morgan may well be sitting in the dressing room thinking that Bowyer was right to make the comments, I'd be impressed if he does as it takes guts to take a public dressing down positively

    Of course if he's not taking it in a positive way then its equally understandable as it can be soul destroying, ultimately we just dont know
    Well I'm angry and I'm allowed an opinion and I gave it. 
    So your allowed one but he isnt? 
  • charltonnick
    charltonnick Posts: 3,063
    Can't fault the boys for effort but we have no goal threat. Keeper didn't make a save 2nd half. Doughty did well but we created very little.
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,064
    Think this is Benjy's own opinion rather than a Bowyer quote but agree with him

    If Morgan cant do the basics that Bowyer demands here at Charlton, what other Championship club will want him?
    I don't know who you are Benjy but I think you should shut up! 
    Benjy does a number of articles for the OS
    Well to be brutally honest he should know better! 
    Why he's not wrong, he's allowed as much of an opinion as me and you as he's using his own twitter account

    You dont have to agree with him, but I'm sorry to tell him to shut up is pathetic

    End of the day Benjy may know more than us about relationships between Manager and Player

    For all we know Morgan may well be sitting in the dressing room thinking that Bowyer was right to make the comments, I'd be impressed if he does as it takes guts to take a public dressing down positively

    Of course if he's not taking it in a positive way then its equally understandable as it can be soul destroying, ultimately we just dont know

    Think this is Benjy's own opinion rather than a Bowyer quote but agree with him

    If Morgan cant do the basics that Bowyer demands here at Charlton, what other Championship club will want him?
    I don't know who you are Benjy but I think you should shut up! 
    Benjy does a number of articles for the OS
    Well to be brutally honest he should know better! 
    Why he's not wrong, he's allowed as much of an opinion as me and you as he's using his own twitter account

    You dont have to agree with him, but I'm sorry to tell him to shut up is pathetic

    End of the day Benjy may know more than us about relationships between Manager and Player

    For all we know Morgan may well be sitting in the dressing room thinking that Bowyer was right to make the comments, I'd be impressed if he does as it takes guts to take a public dressing down positively

    Of course if he's not taking it in a positive way then its equally understandable as it can be soul destroying, ultimately we just dont know
    Well I'm angry and I'm allowed an opinion and I gave it. 
    So your allowed one but he isnt? 
    Leave it will you! 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,515
    Fucking bollocks from Bowyer digging out Morgan again. 

    You continually drag him yet keep on Bonne who can’t hold up the ball, bring others into play, or finish his chances. And you start him the following game. 

    To rub salt in the wounds, it was Bowyers selection that gave away the pen.

    Thought LB was better than that.
    Bonne scores last match to be fair. And he has options for Albie, he doesn’t for Bonne. 
    He also has options for a decent left back.....
    Doughty needed to recover from entering the red zone against Brentford on Tuesday so not surprised he didnt start... I'd be surprised if he doesnt against Birmingham

    Purrington on the other hand you have to question if he's not doing enough in training to impress
    Enough to impress? Oshilaja has largely been shit, Purrington couldn't have done much worse.