With his limitations he needs to be a regular goal threat to be in this team. Gilbey has the potential to score goals but I think that’s also the case for others in this squad. Fraser and CBT scoring simple finishes is a good start.
You don’t get rid of players like Gilbey if you want promotion , you keep your squad strong .
JFC is a different case because of his injuries and the fact he unlikely to get the game time to prove his fitness with us .. but you would not need to replace JFC but you would Gilbey
You don’t get rid of players like Gilbey if you want promotion , you keep your squad strong .
JFC is a different case because of his injuries and the fact he unlikely to get the game time to prove his fitness with us .. but you would not need to replace JFC but you would Gilbey
You do if there’s interest in Gilbey but not JFC and we need to free up wages to bring in someone for another position.
I'd rather keep JFC - he has better quality and can pick a pass. Wanted rid of Gilbey since he ruined my Saturday last season getting that ridiculous 2nd yellow against whoever it was. Have not forgiven him. I think JFC could be useful as cover for Dobson and also MAYBE LB
With his limitations he needs to be a regular goal threat to be in this team. Gilbey has the potential to score goals but I think that’s also the case for others in this squad. Fraser and CBT scoring simple finishes is a good start.
Fraser only has to score one more league goal and he'll equal Gilbey's return for 37 games last season...
You don’t get rid of players like Gilbey if you want promotion , you keep your squad strong .
JFC is a different case because of his injuries and the fact he unlikely to get the game time to prove his fitness with us .. but you would not need to replace JFC but you would Gilbey
Based off last night, i'd rather give Henry gametime than Gilbey. That puts Gilbey as about 7th choice in midfield
You don’t get rid of players like Gilbey if you want promotion , you keep your squad strong .
JFC is a different case because of his injuries and the fact he unlikely to get the game time to prove his fitness with us .. but you would not need to replace JFC but you would Gilbey
You do if there’s interest in Gilbey but not JFC and we need to free up wages to bring in someone for another position.
Do we? I would have assumed we would have budgeted to have a full squad. We might want to then free up a space/wages. But I don't think 1 or 2 more coming in is dependent on anyone leaving.
You don’t get rid of players like Gilbey if you want promotion , you keep your squad strong .
JFC is a different case because of his injuries and the fact he unlikely to get the game time to prove his fitness with us .. but you would not need to replace JFC but you would Gilbey
You do if there’s interest in Gilbey but not JFC and we need to free up wages to bring in someone for another position.
Do we? I would have assumed we would have budgeted to have a full squad. We might want to then free up a space/wages. But I don't think 1 or 2 more coming in is dependent on anyone leaving.
Defended him a lot and have finally seen the legend in the flesh.
Work rate is great, gets about but there's a definite lack of ability for how we want to play, doesn't have the close control, vision or passing range to fit into the midfield, however... The running would be worthwhile for seeing games out etc. Not sure between him and JFC for who to keep and lose, Mcgrandles probably makes gilbey the easier to lose but, if he ends up having fitness issues then maybe keep Gilberto for the "energetic workhorse" role.
You don’t get rid of players like Gilbey if you want promotion , you keep your squad strong .
JFC is a different case because of his injuries and the fact he unlikely to get the game time to prove his fitness with us .. but you would not need to replace JFC but you would Gilbey
Based off last night, i'd rather give Henry gametime than Gilbey. That puts Gilbey as about 7th choice in midfield
Being the teeniest bit charitable, they don't play the same role.
Gilbey only has Payne, Morgan, Fraser and McGrandles to get past
You don’t get rid of players like Gilbey if you want promotion , you keep your squad strong .
JFC is a different case because of his injuries and the fact he unlikely to get the game time to prove his fitness with us .. but you would not need to replace JFC but you would Gilbey
You do if there’s interest in Gilbey but not JFC and we need to free up wages to bring in someone for another position.
Do we? I would have assumed we would have budgeted to have a full squad. We might want to then free up a space/wages. But I don't think 1 or 2 more coming in is dependent on anyone leaving.
That’s why I said if.
Sorry I thought the if referred to the choice between one or tother if there was only interest in 1.
I'd rather keep JFC - he has better quality and can pick a pass. Wanted rid of Gilbey since he ruined my Saturday last season getting that ridiculous 2nd yellow against whoever it was. Have not forgiven him. I think JFC could be useful as cover for Dobson and also MAYBE LB
You have a low threshold for pain. I think Mills red for a starters worse. He simply got off to avoid the Christmas fixtures.
Although someone suggested on here that Gilbey wanted to be suspended for the AFC Dons match given his MK history. No idea if true but they were two v stupid bookings.
Gilbey can't even put a corner in. He can't threaten from the corner. He can't defend for us from the corner.
He showcased his attacking play when he had two defenders to beat from 50 yards (hard task) or hold the ball up, lift head up and spot something. He decided to take the defender on and dive, then do that shocked look thing.
'The Addicks are understood to have a recall option in the January transfer window'. Yeah, we'll get right on that..
Seriously though I liked Gilbey and wanted him to do well. Seemed like exactly the kind of player who could do well in a Bowyer team and then just didn't. Looked a little less shellshocked under Adkins until he didn't, looked ok under Jackson very briefly until he didn't and by then I think we'd all given up. I hope he does well at Stevenage.
Find it quite refreshing tbh that a guy with a young family seems on the face of it to have chosen a club that works better for his family set up than one that would have but at a slightly higher level but disruptive outside of football.
Find it quite refreshing tbh that a guy with a young family seems on the face of it to have chosen a club that works better for his family set up than one that would have but at a slightly higher level but disruptive outside of football.
A lot of us wanted a clear out of most of last season's squad, and Gilbey is now a part of that. Can't say he'll be remembered for much in a Charlton shirt but equally not the worst to have put the shirt on either.
Good luck to him. Was probably a player in there somewhere but it was never going to surface here. Really think his first season injury and COVID wrecked him and he never got going for us.
Find it quite refreshing tbh that a guy with a young family seems on the face of it to have chosen a club that works better for his family set up than one that would have but at a slightly higher level but disruptive outside of football.
To me it shows a lack of desire.
Totally agree. Should have stayed and fought for his place rather than going somewhere convenient for his home life.
Find it quite refreshing tbh that a guy with a young family seems on the face of it to have chosen a club that works better for his family set up than one that would have but at a slightly higher level but disruptive outside of football.
Same.
Any other profession you'd consider a work/life balance, why not football?
Find it quite refreshing tbh that a guy with a young family seems on the face of it to have chosen a club that works better for his family set up than one that would have but at a slightly higher level but disruptive outside of football.
To me it shows a lack of desire.
Totally agree. Should have stayed and fought for his place rather than going somewhere convenient for his home life.
Was more thinking he could have stayed in the division by going to Lincoln and proved us wrong. Whatever he does in the basement division won't do that.
You don’t get rid of players like Gilbey if you want promotion , you keep your squad strong .
JFC is a different case because of his injuries and the fact he unlikely to get the game time to prove his fitness with us .. but you would not need to replace JFC but you would Gilbey
Find it quite refreshing tbh that a guy with a young family seems on the face of it to have chosen a club that works better for his family set up than one that would have but at a slightly higher level but disruptive outside of football.
To me it shows a lack of desire.
Totally agree. Should have stayed and fought for his place rather than going somewhere convenient for his home life.
Was more thinking he could have stayed in the division by going to Lincoln and proved us wrong. Whatever he does in the basement division won't do that.
That as well. Footballers careers are short ones and this move seems a bit of easy way out. No doubt on the same wages with us picking up the majority of them.
Find it quite refreshing tbh that a guy with a young family seems on the face of it to have chosen a club that works better for his family set up than one that would have but at a slightly higher level but disruptive outside of football.
To me it shows a lack of desire.
Totally agree. Should have stayed and fought for his place rather than going somewhere convenient for his home life.
Was more thinking he could have stayed in the division by going to Lincoln and proved us wrong. Whatever he does in the basement division won't do that.
He will be on his league 1 wage anyway won't he? Maybe he backs himself to earn a move to somewhere else in January?
That's the opposite of lack of desire in the same scenario.
Find it quite refreshing tbh that a guy with a young family seems on the face of it to have chosen a club that works better for his family set up than one that would have but at a slightly higher level but disruptive outside of football.
To me it shows a lack of desire.
Totally agree. Should have stayed and fought for his place rather than going somewhere convenient for his home life.
Was more thinking he could have stayed in the division by going to Lincoln and proved us wrong. Whatever he does in the basement division won't do that.
Personally my motivation would be playing for a club I like close to home over one further away just to prove a point to a club I'm out of contract at come the end of the season anyway.
He'll get paid the same either way presumably as it's a loan.
The only motivation to choose Lincoln over Stevenage would be if he thought he'd be more likely to get another L1 contract next season by doing so, and maybe he thinks do well at Stevenage and he can do that anyway? He's seen a load of L2 players arrive at a L1 club this summer after all.
The thing with Gilbey is we signed him from MK Dons because he was doing very well with them. They have traditionally played in a similar way to the way we are aiming to play this season. He may stay or he may go. But it would be foolish to not let Garner watch him and assess him while he is here as he may very well end up seeing something that he likes.
He is a member of the first team squad and should be treated as such.
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JFC is a different case because of his injuries and the fact he unlikely to get the game time to prove his fitness with us .. but you would not need to replace JFC but you would Gilbey
Work rate is great, gets about but there's a definite lack of ability for how we want to play, doesn't have the close control, vision or passing range to fit into the midfield, however... The running would be worthwhile for seeing games out etc. Not sure between him and JFC for who to keep and lose, Mcgrandles probably makes gilbey the easier to lose but, if he ends up having fitness issues then maybe keep Gilberto for the "energetic workhorse" role.
Gilbey only has Payne, Morgan, Fraser and McGrandles to get past
He showcased his attacking play when he had two defenders to beat from 50 yards (hard task) or hold the ball up, lift head up and spot something. He decided to take the defender on and dive, then do that shocked look thing.
Not impressed at all.
A lot of us wanted a clear out of most of last season's squad, and Gilbey is now a part of that. Can't say he'll be remembered for much in a Charlton shirt but equally not the worst to have put the shirt on either.
Any other profession you'd consider a work/life balance, why not football?
That's the opposite of lack of desire in the same scenario.
He'll get paid the same either way presumably as it's a loan.
The only motivation to choose Lincoln over Stevenage would be if he thought he'd be more likely to get another L1 contract next season by doing so, and maybe he thinks do well at Stevenage and he can do that anyway? He's seen a load of L2 players arrive at a L1 club this summer after all.