The thing with Gilbey is we signed him from MK Dons because he was doing very well with them. They have traditionally played in a similar way to the way we are aiming to play this season. He may stay or he may go. But it would be foolish to not let Garner watch him and assess him while he is here as he may very well end up seeing something that he likes.
He is a member of the first team squad and should be treated as such.
He's good enough to get in most bottom half league 1 clubs imo... people are saying it's a lack of ambition, but he will get paid the same and should boss that league enough to get a league 1 gig a bit closer to home
Not a player without his merits - certainly he is Athletic and can run with the ball well. Not good enough defensively to be a true box to box midfielder, and did not score or create enough to be a true attacking midfielder. I think it's right that we are moving him on, but some of the vitriol and accusations of hiding that he was subjected to last year were a bit unfair imo. Hope hew does well.
Seems like a nice guy. Underachieved big style here given his previous reputation. Lots of possible reasons why but all water under the bridge now. I wish him well. Now let’s use those wages Thomas!
Probably a bad signing in hindsight as he lacks the tools we need in a midfielder. He can't unlock a defence, not great himself defensively, doesn't get his foot on the ball and dictate games, rarely dragged us up the pitch despite his acceleration... Just not very good.
He's the last out the door from the core group of underperformers. Glad this chapter or our recent history is coming to an end.
2 seasons where he pretty much missed the start of both with an injury and COVID. Had some off field personal issues as well. Showed what he could do in a glimpse but just never got going.
A fresh start and at club where he can stay with his family sounds like a good opportunity for us and him.
I always thought he was the wrong player for everything, or more importantly all the time, he was here.
I get the feeling he was the wrong player, at the wrong time, as opposed to being a bad player. I expect him to be back in league 1 in January, if not August, one way or another.
The thing with Gilbey is we signed him from MK Dons because he was doing very well with them. They have traditionally played in a similar way to the way we are aiming to play this season. He may stay or he may go. But it would be foolish to not let Garner watch him and assess him while he is here as he may very well end up seeing something that he likes.
He is a member of the first team squad and should be treated as such.
Charlton proved to be the wrong place at the wrong time for him, whatever his qualities and limitations. Plus the hate mob got their claws into him. I dunno, but some people seem to forget that players are human.
I'll wish Alex Gilbey the best of luck and hope it all works out for him.
I think he came to us at an unfortunate time and he just didnt get the rub of the green. I dont think JJ did him any favours last season by keep playing him when he was obviously not at his best, he carried the can for alot of our woes at that time. GL Alex hopefully you get the chance to build confidence and get back on track
Find it quite refreshing tbh that a guy with a young family seems on the face of it to have chosen a club that works better for his family set up than one that would have but at a slightly higher level but disruptive outside of football.
To me it shows a lack of desire.
Totally agree. Should have stayed and fought for his place rather than going somewhere convenient for his home life.
Was more thinking he could have stayed in the division by going to Lincoln and proved us wrong. Whatever he does in the basement division won't do that.
Sometimes it is worth it. Separation from your family can take years to repair. I worked away from home .. once for 18 months, other times for months. My kids were less than 10 at the time and it is only in the last couple of years that my relationship with my daughter has normalised and she hits 32 in a few days. Would I do it all over again for the money and promotions? No the cost was too high!
In the right team playing the way that suits him he would probably still be very effective and might be yet. But Charlton aren't that team and we haven't played that way and he's not so talismanic that we're going to build around him.
Moving on is the best thing for all parties I think, and I genuinely hope he does well for himself as I think he's probably as disappointed as anyone with how it's gone here.
Charlton proved to be the wrong place at the wrong time for him, whatever his qualities and limitations. Plus the hate mob got their claws into him. I dunno, but some people seem to forget that players are human.
I'll wish Alex Gilbey the best of luck and hope it all works out for him.
Did they? Compared to a lot of players I don't think he got much "stick" at all, at games or on social media.
I think people that spend a lot of time on football forums massively over egg their influence.
It's not like he turned into Frank Lampard after the months of "when Gilbey and Maddison are fit the goals will start flowing" is it?
Opinions, right or wrong, that's all they are and don't effect anything. Ever.
Find it quite refreshing tbh that a guy with a young family seems on the face of it to have chosen a club that works better for his family set up than one that would have but at a slightly higher level but disruptive outside of football.
To me it shows a lack of desire.
I think that's his problem. He has football in his feet, but he doesn't have that killer instinct - which incidentally would benefit his family.
Good for both parties. With him going to Stevenage, Lee at Wrexham, Matthews playing in Cyprus and Leko seemingly forgotten about at Birmingham, it shows you how far off we were last season.
It's a deal that suits all parties. It's not as if Gilbey was close to getting into our midfield and that would have been made clear to him by Garner. He seems to be one of those players who has a confidence issue at times and if dropping down a level and being close to his family restores that then good luck to him.
Charlton proved to be the wrong place at the wrong time for him, whatever his qualities and limitations. Plus the hate mob got their claws into him. I dunno, but some people seem to forget that players are human.
I'll wish Alex Gilbey the best of luck and hope it all works out for him.
Did they? Compared to a lot of players I don't think he got much "stick" at all, at games or on social media.
I think people that spend a lot of time on football forums massively over egg their influence.
It's not like he turned into Frank Lampard after the months of "when Gilbey and Maddison are fit the goals will start flowing" is it?
Opinions, right or wrong, that's all they are and don't effect anything. Ever.
You don't know what they receive though. I know of a lad in another sport who had an unfortunate debut and received a number of direct messages telling him how sxxx he was and how he cost his team the game. It upset him. Not everyone has a thick skin about these things.
Charlton proved to be the wrong place at the wrong time for him, whatever his qualities and limitations. Plus the hate mob got their claws into him. I dunno, but some people seem to forget that players are human.
I'll wish Alex Gilbey the best of luck and hope it all works out for him.
Did they? Compared to a lot of players I don't think he got much "stick" at all, at games or on social media.
I think people that spend a lot of time on football forums massively over egg their influence.
It's not like he turned into Frank Lampard after the months of "when Gilbey and Maddison are fit the goals will start flowing" is it?
Opinions, right or wrong, that's all they are and don't effect anything. Ever.
You don't know what they receive though. I know of a lad in another sport who had an unfortunate debut and received a number of direct messages telling him how sxxx he was and how he cost his team the game. It upset him. Not everyone has a thick skin about these things.
No I don't know what he received, neither does the person who is replying to.
Compared to a lot of players, including many of ours, Gilbey got little or no "boo boy" treatment. Hardly describe it as a hate mob.
Find it quite refreshing tbh that a guy with a young family seems on the face of it to have chosen a club that works better for his family set up than one that would have but at a slightly higher level but disruptive outside of football.
To me it shows a lack of desire.
Totally agree. Should have stayed and fought for his place rather than going somewhere convenient for his home life.
Was more thinking he could have stayed in the division by going to Lincoln and proved us wrong. Whatever he does in the basement division won't do that.
That as well. Footballers careers are short ones and this move seems a bit of easy way out. No doubt on the same wages with us picking up the majority of them.
Agreed, for someone aged only 27, it doesn't exactly suggest a massive desire to be the best player he could be, to achieve as much as he could, in what is a really short career.
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Not a player without his merits - certainly he is Athletic and can run with the ball well. Not good enough defensively to be a true box to box midfielder, and did not score or create enough to be a true attacking midfielder. I think it's right that we are moving him on, but some of the vitriol and accusations of hiding that he was subjected to last year were a bit unfair imo. Hope hew does well.
Probably a bad signing in hindsight as he lacks the tools we need in a midfielder. He can't unlock a defence, not great himself defensively, doesn't get his foot on the ball and dictate games, rarely dragged us up the pitch despite his acceleration... Just not very good.
He's the last out the door from the core group of underperformers. Glad this chapter or our recent history is coming to an end.
2 seasons where he pretty much missed the start of both with an injury and COVID. Had some off field personal issues as well. Showed what he could do in a glimpse but just never got going.
A fresh start and at club where he can stay with his family sounds like a good opportunity for us and him.
I get the feeling he was the wrong player, at the wrong time, as opposed to being a bad player. I expect him to be back in league 1 in January, if not August, one way or another.
I'll wish Alex Gilbey the best of luck and hope it all works out for him.
GL Alex hopefully you get the chance to build confidence and get back on track
Moving on is the best thing for all parties I think, and I genuinely hope he does well for himself as I think he's probably as disappointed as anyone with how it's gone here.
I think people that spend a lot of time on football forums massively over egg their influence.
It's not like he turned into Frank Lampard after the months of "when Gilbey and Maddison are fit the goals will start flowing" is it?
Opinions, right or wrong, that's all they are and don't effect anything. Ever.
Compared to a lot of players, including many of ours, Gilbey got little or no "boo boy" treatment. Hardly describe it as a hate mob.