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Club For A Quid protest (Aug 2020)
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Its also shameful that whilst some of us went their to peacefully protest about the ownershipRodneyCharltonTrotta said:Ollywozere said:
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together.Bedsaddick said:I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves.
We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
Perhaps if they had piped up whilst the club has been torn apart the past few years days like today would not have happened. Don't lecture proper fans whilst you have have sat there silent and pumping out the pro ownership stuff whilst rome burned.
I would accept that tweet today if @cafcofficial had not sat by idley whilst people were ripping off the club but easy to give fans a kicking isn't it whilst staying silent on the real wronguns.
Shameful.
Others felt like pissing in sinks
Stealing alcohol
Stealing a games console
Destroying club property
THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE
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Absolutely this.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Ollywozere said:
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together.Bedsaddick said:I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves.
We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
Perhaps if they had piped up whilst the club has been torn apart the past few years days like today would not have happened. Don't lecture proper fans whilst you have have sat there silent and pumping out the pro ownership stuff whilst rome burned.
I would accept that tweet today if @cafcofficial had not sat by idley whilst people were ripping off the club but easy to give fans a kicking isn't it whilst staying silent on the real wronguns.
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Airman Brown said:
Sorry, Olly, but that’s not a reason to provide that information to the media, which just damages the fans’ reputation as a whole. The SMT are a joke, as everyone knows.Ollywozere said:
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together.Bedsaddick said:I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves.
We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
if you want to address fans about the unacceptable behaviour, put the statement on the club website where it’s transparent and the club is accountable. You don’t just give it to the national media.
If anyone has damaged the fans reputation, it's the twits who thought that kind of behaviour was appropriate, acceptable, or in anyway helpful.
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@ValleyGary has come out with the most sensible course of actionRodneyCharltonTrotta said:ForeverAddickted said:
As per Olly's comment it was a combined statement from both the Comms team and Senior Management TeamRodneyCharltonTrotta said:palarsehater said:@Bedsaddick I’m done with rowing today but it was by someone who was there. And now the club are going to review footage and probably seek penalties for those who were peacefully protesting inside the ground, a few bad pennies have ruined it for all. The plight is lost.
Think you're being a bit OTT mate.
What the last collection of shitbags in the boardroom in an official capacity have been doing the past few years is well beyond anything that has gone on today.
Keep the fanbase united. Don't let the fuckers divide and rule.
You've taken a hammering on here today mate and no need for it as we all need to pull together not attack each other. Don't agree with your views on the whole situation today but don't think fans should be rowing amongst ourselves.
These northern monkeys and the drips that cling onto them for whatever reason will be doing everything they can to cause ructions within the fanbase to undermine the protests. Same as when the CARD protests caused rifts in the fanbase.
Better of united whilst the real enemies are still around and then once we have a half normal ownership and the actual football is the main concern we can all go back to our little tiffs but until then we should show a united front against those who will do far more harm to our club than anyone there today would in a million years regardless of whether it's poor form or not.
And fuck whoever wrote that official statement....get off your high horse and pipe up about the damage done to our club by your paymasters you utter cunts.
Patronising wankers.
Trouble is if someone has pissed in a sink etc. its not going to be Farnell / Elliott cleaning up is it?
I stand by what I wrote.
As for sitting there in silence, would you prefer those working in the background the throw away their jobs in token gestures just to stand with the fans?
Ultimately what does that achieve if anything - Sometimes its better to remain in a job so you can at least try to protect what you love1 -
Fair play for responding but I think that’s absolute bollocks to be frank. You’ve made the organisers and the people trying to save our club look absolute mugs.Ollywozere said:
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together.Bedsaddick said:I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves.
We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
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Cheers OllyOllywozere said:
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together.Bedsaddick said:I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves.
We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.0 -
Put it out to the fan base. Give the perpetrators the opportunity to return anonymously the games console and perhaps some fans would give their time to come clean up others mess.ForeverAddickted said:
As per Olly's comment it was a combined statement from both the Comms team and Senior Management TeamRodneyCharltonTrotta said:palarsehater said:@Bedsaddick I’m done with rowing today but it was by someone who was there. And now the club are going to review footage and probably seek penalties for those who were peacefully protesting inside the ground, a few bad pennies have ruined it for all. The plight is lost.
Think you're being a bit OTT mate.
What the last collection of shitbags in the boardroom in an official capacity have been doing the past few years is well beyond anything that has gone on today.
Keep the fanbase united. Don't let the fuckers divide and rule.
You've taken a hammering on here today mate and no need for it as we all need to pull together not attack each other. Don't agree with your views on the whole situation today but don't think fans should be rowing amongst ourselves.
These northern monkeys and the drips that cling onto them for whatever reason will be doing everything they can to cause ructions within the fanbase to undermine the protests. Same as when the CARD protests caused rifts in the fanbase.
Better of united whilst the real enemies are still around and then once we have a half normal ownership and the actual football is the main concern we can all go back to our little tiffs but until then we should show a united front against those who will do far more harm to our club than anyone there today would in a million years regardless of whether it's poor form or not.
And fuck whoever wrote that official statement....get off your high horse and pipe up about the damage done to our club by your paymasters you utter c***s.
Patronising wankers.
Trouble is if someone has pissed in a sink etc. its not going to be Farnell / Elliott cleaning up is it?Don’t just risk the whole movement by grassing straight up to the media.
Fucking wanky decision but not surprising as it’s been made by people working for club. They’ve been doing it the last 8 years.15 -
Again have theystop_shouting said:
Fair play for responding but I think that’s absolute bollocks to be frank. You’ve made the organisers and the people trying to save our club look absolute mugs.Ollywozere said:
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together.Bedsaddick said:I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves.
We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
Or have the idiots Stealing things and pissing in sinks done that all by themselves12 -
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ForeverAddickted said:
@ValleyGary has come out with the most sensible course of actionRodneyCharltonTrotta said:ForeverAddickted said:
As per Olly's comment it was a combined statement from both the Comms team and Senior Management TeamRodneyCharltonTrotta said:palarsehater said:@Bedsaddick I’m done with rowing today but it was by someone who was there. And now the club are going to review footage and probably seek penalties for those who were peacefully protesting inside the ground, a few bad pennies have ruined it for all. The plight is lost.
Think you're being a bit OTT mate.
What the last collection of shitbags in the boardroom in an official capacity have been doing the past few years is well beyond anything that has gone on today.
Keep the fanbase united. Don't let the fuckers divide and rule.
You've taken a hammering on here today mate and no need for it as we all need to pull together not attack each other. Don't agree with your views on the whole situation today but don't think fans should be rowing amongst ourselves.
These northern monkeys and the drips that cling onto them for whatever reason will be doing everything they can to cause ructions within the fanbase to undermine the protests. Same as when the CARD protests caused rifts in the fanbase.
Better of united whilst the real enemies are still around and then once we have a half normal ownership and the actual football is the main concern we can all go back to our little tiffs but until then we should show a united front against those who will do far more harm to our club than anyone there today would in a million years regardless of whether it's poor form or not.
And fuck whoever wrote that official statement....get off your high horse and pipe up about the damage done to our club by your paymasters you utter cunts.
Patronising wankers.
Trouble is if someone has pissed in a sink etc. its not going to be Farnell / Elliott cleaning up is it?
I stand by what I wrote.
As for sitting there in silence, would you prefer those working in the background the throw away their jobs in token gestures just to stand with the fans?
Ultimately what does that achieve if anything?
No...but then don't come out and undermine today's protests by publicising out of order behaviour that will play into the hands of the enemy and divide the fanbase when you have kept entirely schtum about the wrong uns in charge for many years.
Say something or nothing. Cowards.3 -
I never like to add to the narrative, but you do realise that comments like this and the reactions from many people on social media is exactly what individuals like this grave.cafcfan1990 said:There’s a long list of people involved in this whose face I’d love to wallop but Nad is right up there. Absolute joke of a man, really hate keyboard warriors.
Whether it's an angry retort, or a salient and correct counter argument, it does not matter, as getting any sort of reaction is a win for them.
I know it's pointless in saying it, but the best thing to do with individuals like this is to completely ignore them.0 -
Senior management team , I didn’t think we had one11
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Thanks for the response Olly.Ollywozere said:
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together.Bedsaddick said:I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves.
We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.0 -
I can't wait for Alan Nixon to write that statement up into an article for the Sun with all the juicy urination and thievery bits in bold3
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Dividing the fan base already, just look at the last few comments.
Disgusting decision.10 -
ValleyGary said:
I’m sorry but the comms team and SMT should of gone to the fansforfans group and should have tried to settle this matter between the club and fans. They are not responsible for the actions of a few little pricks, but this could have been potentially resolved without going to the media.Ollywozere said:
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together.Bedsaddick said:I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves.
We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
100% spot on and put a lot more eloquently and articulately than I have.7 -
You can't just gloss over the bits you don't like. If people have been pissing in sinks, stealing alcohol and games consoles then why shouldn't it be reported with everything else that happened today. Some poor sod's got to clean that sink.
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Couldn't go today, but impressed by the coverage I've seen.
Re. the poor behaviour - it is not something I'd do personally, but at the same time the club did not refund me booking fees for Hull or Cardiff tickets (£3 in total). If that is the same for others then I dare say that covers the cost of the wine and a games console. And why is there even a console there anyway? Who goes to the Valley to play computer games?
P*ssing in sinks is a bit low, and not really excusable, but it may be the situation quickly happened due to numbers there and available toilets.
Anyway, the main point is I can forgive a fan p#ssing in a sink if it gets rid of ESI.
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Not condoning pissing in the sink and nicking of a games console. Just don’t understand why the club decided to go public with this. Could have been dealt with so differently but don’t really expect anything else from toss pots in charge of the club.paulie8290 said:
Again have theystop_shouting said:
Fair play for responding but I think that’s absolute bollocks to be frank. You’ve made the organisers and the people trying to save our club look absolute mugs.Ollywozere said:
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together.Bedsaddick said:I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves.
We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
Or have the idiots Stealing things and pissing in sinks done that all by themselves4 - Sponsored links:
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Did you mean ignite them?FishCostaFortune said:
I never like to add to the narrative, but you do realise that comments like this and the reactions from many people on social media is exactly what individuals like this grave.cafcfan1990 said:There’s a long list of people involved in this whose face I’d love to wallop but Nad is right up there. Absolute joke of a man, really hate keyboard warriors.
Whether it's an angry retort, or a salient and correct counter argument, it does not matter, as getting any sort of reaction is a win for them.
I know it's pointless in saying it, but the best thing to do with individuals like this is to completely ignlre them.
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Pretty low level acts but I hope it gets washed away in the media. Maybe those responsible or their parents should bring them back into the club tomorrow to clean every non-Range Rover in the car park.1
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Then you are all a bunch of wankers, hopefully a good clear out of SMT once takeover happens.Ollywozere said:m
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together.Bedsaddick said:I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves.
We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
Could and should have been handled In a professional way, a simple no comment while investigations are ongoing would have sufficed.
Not condoning any wrong doings but you guys might need the fans on your side soon.5 -
addix said:You can't just gloss over the bits you don't like. If people have been pissing in sinks, stealing alcohol and games consoles then why shouldn't it be reported with everything else that happened today. Some poor sod's got to clean that sink.
The comms team have for years to suit the owner's narratives. Why not so for those standing up to them.
Some appalling behaviour that no one is doubting is appalling if what is alleged is true but to focus on that and knowingly undermine the 99% of good stuff that's gone on today is piss poor and snide.7 -
I think the scrotums involved in the scummier acts today are thick and naive and probably meant their acts in a defiant way, we were all young and stupid once , maybe not that stupid .
The main protagonists won’t be happy at all with this and I’m sure if given the opportunity they’d have liked to have sorted it in house if they could have found the dopes .
Don’t let it take away from the great effort 99% of those who went down there today .
Well done you all I salute you .5 -
I call bullshit.
Let's see how the prosecution process goes.
There won't be one.5 -
No one is lecturing 'proper' fans, that's kind of the point. There's nothing proper about stealing from the club you support.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Ollywozere said:
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together.Bedsaddick said:I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves.
We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
Perhaps if they had piped up whilst the club has been torn apart the past few years days like today would not have happened. Don't lecture proper fans whilst you have have sat there silent and pumping out the pro ownership stuff whilst rome burned.
I would accept that tweet today if @cafcofficial had not sat by idley whilst people were ripping off the club but easy to give fans a kicking isn't it whilst staying silent on the real wronguns.
Shameful.
As I explained, I understand this a hugely sensitive subject and it's not my individual call to provide the statement, but I did my best to help strike the balance.
If you and others feel we got it wrong, then that's fair enough and I obviously respect you and Airman Brown's opinion on the matter.
But I assure you, we're not trying to undermine anything done by the fans. As always, we're just trying our best in a shitty and stressful situation.
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Apologies I orginaly put this on the wrong thread.Airman, what’s wrong with making public the wrong doings of a few individuals? They have let us down. As the leader of Thanet Council I am staggered by your observation that maybe CAFC SHOULD NOT HAVE MADE THESE OBSERVATIONS PUBLIC. These few individuals, thieving and urinating have let the organisers of this event down. Dodger and the rest keep up the peaceful protests up. Thank you.1
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Someone somewhere must know who nicked the playstation?palarsehater said:So apparently somebody stole the playstation from the cafc board room today! Absolutelymuggy! No need for it... If you wanted a few quid we'd of all rallied round and got ya some! You don't nick off ya own doorstep and most certainly wasn't needed today! Everyone's hard work up the fucking swanny cos some little tit couldn't keep his grubby hands off other people's stuff!From Facebook group.
If you know that person or even are the person, FFS just give it back.7 -
Second thread I've seen this post on now.RoytheBoy said:Apologies I orginaly put this on the wrong thread.Airman, what’s wrong with making public the wrong doings of a few individuals? They have let us down. As the leader of Thanet Council I am staggered by your observation that maybe CAFC SHOULD NOT HAVE MADE THESE OBSERVATIONS PUBLIC. These few individuals, thieving and urinating have let the organisers of this event down. Dodger and the rest keep up the peaceful protests up. Thank you.
What is your obsession with airman brown?
Give it a rest please3
