Statistically one of the best players to play at this level in the last decade... yeah he's shit. Im gutted il never get to see him play in the flesh.
Bowyer has it all to do next season, no shit owner, backed in the windows and a new fitness team.
There will literally be zero excuses to hide behind.
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Marcus Maddison - 20 months jail for GBH (p77)
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Bailey said:Didn't think Maatsen did
He then just stood there as they collected the ball and then crossed it so it could be laid to Bishop1 -
boggzy said:Bowyer hasn't mentioned Maatsen's jumping out of tackles.
He'd also pretty much ruin any chance of getting any loan players from Chelsea ever again.1 -
Sorry I must have missed him jumping out of tackles and yes he is clearly at fault for the second. In his defence he is eighteen and learning the game as is Albie Morgan, they are learning the game. Maddison is approaching 28 and in my opinion, knows his career is going backwards, he will be gone soon enough.0
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haven't read all the recent posts but i was wondering if any one could tell me how he got injured? to me he looked like he fell over himself.0
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Karim_myBagheri said:haven't read all the recent posts but i was wondering if any one could tell me how he got injured? to me he looked like he fell over himself.2
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I personally don't care what he looks like or what boots he wears, although he does look stupid, but that's his choice. But that look draws attention and puts pressure on you to do the job on the pitch - but he's not IMO.
He would be better served with a manager who's prepared to indulge him and put an arm round but we know that's not Bows style rightly or wrongly. Bow's does need to do better at working with players who don't match his exact traits.
What narks me about Maddison and makes it impossible to like him is his terrible body language and his refusal to press and help his fullback - and that's why Bow's doesn't trust him.
I played at a decent level, not because I was great on the ball but because I wanted it so much and was prepared to do whatever for the team, probably another reason I'll always back Bows and not warm to a Maddison type.
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Karim_myBagheri said:haven't read all the recent posts but i was wondering if any one could tell me how he got injured? to me he looked like he fell over himself.1
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He was tackled by the foot of God, after bottling out of a tackle by invoking the Rommedahl method of challenge avoidance.2
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Maccn05 said:I personally don't care what he looks like or what boots he wears, although he does look stupid, but that's his choice. But that look draws attention and puts pressure on you to do the job on the pitch - but he's not IMO.
He would be better served with a manager who's prepared to indulge him and put an arm round but we know that's not Bows style rightly or wrongly. Bow's does need to do better at working with players who don't match his exact traits.
What narks me about Maddison and makes it impossible to like him is his terrible body language and his refusal to press and help his fullback - and that's why Bow's doesn't trust him.
I played at a decent level, not because I was great on the ball but because I wanted it so much and was prepared to do whatever for the team, probably another reason I'll always back Bows and not warm to a Maddison type.1 -
ForeverAddickted said:Talal said:Bailey said:You are forgetting we didn't have a team to put out and getting bodies in for nothing was essential. Fact is Maddison plays only for Maddison and has added nothing to the team, that is why he is still at this level.
Came into the team for Sunderland for fitness and promptly got injured so wasnt involved until November when he was then eased into the team due to his lack of match fitness and coming off the back of injury
Since the International Weekend he's been fully involved with the Hull game the only League game he's not actually played:
Gillingham: Started... 67mins
Burton: Started... 58mins
MK Dons: Bench... 45mins
AFC Wimbledon: Started... 84mins
Swindon: Started... 72mins
Plymouth: Bench,,, 25mins
Hull: Left on the Bench
Accrington: Bench... 26mins
Someone is going to have to explain why they think Bowyer doesnt like him on that basisGillingham: Started... 67minsBurton: Started... 58mins
Ipswich: Left on the BenchMK Dons: Bench... 45mins
Shrewsbury: Absent through IllnessAFC Wimbledon: Started... 84minsSwindon: Started... 72minsPlymouth: Bench,,, 25minsHull: Left on the BenchAccrington: Bench... 26mins
So that's 2 games where he was left on the bench.
In the last 3 games he's played 51 minutes out of 180+ in a period when we've only been playing 1 game a week, and both his appearances have been when we were losing4 -
Peakey4Rocket said:stop_shouting said:Todds_right_hook said:Will Schwartz be judges as a footballer because he has tattoos? Did solly?
im not even sure why the fact that a player has tattoos is being mentioned when discussing his abilityBut the cross under the eye. But then jumping out of tackles like a nancy boy. That’s the problem.
he is pony6 -
Karim_myBagheri said:haven't read all the recent posts but i was wondering if any one could tell me how he got injured? to me he looked like he fell over himself.
If true, it’s almost unheard of.0 -
I SoundAsa£ said:Karim_myBagheri said:haven't read all the recent posts but i was wondering if any one could tell me how he got injured? to me he looked like he fell over himself.
If true, it’s almost unheard of.0 -
The irony is that MM shouldn’t even be discussed in the context of what happened last nite, other than to be wished a speedy recovery from his injury. But bowyers comments have rightly forced the majority of supporters to defend MM. Just hope bowyer apologises to him and they can both move on.
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ForeverAddickted said:cafc999 said:ForeverAddickted said:cafc999 said:Talal said:ForeverAddickted said:Talal said:ForeverAddickted said:Talal said:Bailey said:You are forgetting we didn't have a team to put out and getting bodies in for nothing was essential. Fact is Maddison plays only for Maddison and has added nothing to the team, that is why he is still at this level.
Came into the team for Sunderland for fitness and promptly got injured so wasnt involved until November when he was then eased into the team due to his lack of match fitness and coming off the back of injury
Since the International Weekend he's been fully involved with the Hull game the only League game he's not actually played:
Gillingham: Started... 67mins
Burton: Started... 58mins
MK Dons: Bench... 45mins
AFC Wimbledon: Started... 84mins
Swindon: Started... 72mins
Plymouth: Bench,,, 25mins
Hull: Left on the Bench
Accrington: Bench... 26mins
Someone is going to have to explain why they think Bowyer doesnt like him on that basis
“First goal – it’s laughable. It’s like going to watch Sunday league football, that goal. What, the goalkeeper catches the ball and just punts it up there? You have a mix up. Come on, you’re meant to be professional footballers. That can’t be happening."
I thought we didnt want him calling out players at all though?
Like I said last night, he's going to call out Maddison for jumping out of a challenge as Williams did exactly the same against Shrewsbury, I knew it would happen the moment I saw it1 -
Any news on the injury?0
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BigRedEvil said:Any news on the injury?0
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ForeverAddickted said:cafc999 said:ForeverAddickted said:cafc999 said:Talal said:ForeverAddickted said:Talal said:ForeverAddickted said:Talal said:Bailey said:You are forgetting we didn't have a team to put out and getting bodies in for nothing was essential. Fact is Maddison plays only for Maddison and has added nothing to the team, that is why he is still at this level.
Came into the team for Sunderland for fitness and promptly got injured so wasnt involved until November when he was then eased into the team due to his lack of match fitness and coming off the back of injury
Since the International Weekend he's been fully involved with the Hull game the only League game he's not actually played:
Gillingham: Started... 67mins
Burton: Started... 58mins
MK Dons: Bench... 45mins
AFC Wimbledon: Started... 84mins
Swindon: Started... 72mins
Plymouth: Bench,,, 25mins
Hull: Left on the Bench
Accrington: Bench... 26mins
Someone is going to have to explain why they think Bowyer doesnt like him on that basis
“First goal – it’s laughable. It’s like going to watch Sunday league football, that goal. What, the goalkeeper catches the ball and just punts it up there? You have a mix up. Come on, you’re meant to be professional footballers. That can’t be happening."
I thought we didnt want him calling out players at all though?
Like I said last night, he's going to call out Maddison for jumping out of a challenge as Williams did exactly the same against Shrewsbury, I knew it would happen the moment I saw it1 - Sponsored links:
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CAFCsayer said:ForeverAddickted said:cafc999 said:ForeverAddickted said:cafc999 said:Talal said:ForeverAddickted said:Talal said:ForeverAddickted said:Talal said:Bailey said:You are forgetting we didn't have a team to put out and getting bodies in for nothing was essential. Fact is Maddison plays only for Maddison and has added nothing to the team, that is why he is still at this level.
Came into the team for Sunderland for fitness and promptly got injured so wasnt involved until November when he was then eased into the team due to his lack of match fitness and coming off the back of injury
Since the International Weekend he's been fully involved with the Hull game the only League game he's not actually played:
Gillingham: Started... 67mins
Burton: Started... 58mins
MK Dons: Bench... 45mins
AFC Wimbledon: Started... 84mins
Swindon: Started... 72mins
Plymouth: Bench,,, 25mins
Hull: Left on the Bench
Accrington: Bench... 26mins
Someone is going to have to explain why they think Bowyer doesnt like him on that basis
“First goal – it’s laughable. It’s like going to watch Sunday league football, that goal. What, the goalkeeper catches the ball and just punts it up there? You have a mix up. Come on, you’re meant to be professional footballers. That can’t be happening."
I thought we didnt want him calling out players at all though?
Like I said last night, he's going to call out Maddison for jumping out of a challenge as Williams did exactly the same against Shrewsbury, I knew it would happen the moment I saw it0 -
killerandflash said:BigRedEvil said:Any news on the injury?2
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Bowyer - asked if Maddison is seriously injured: "I don't know. I don't care. You've got a player who is jumping out of tackles and then he says he got a knock before that. If you do that again then you're done."1
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Bowyer: "He has got a great left foot but if you're dropping out of tackles it is the wrong thing to do. You're letting your team-mates and the club down."2
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Lee Bowyer: "They had more fight, more determination. It summed it up when Maddison jumped out of a tackle."2
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ross1 said:Bowyer - asked if Maddison is seriously injured: "I don't know. I don't care. You've got a player who is jumping out of tackles and then he says he got a knock before that. If you do that again then you're done."7
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or at least mutual agreement
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CH4RLTON said:Steve Gallen has to take the blame for this in my eyes
He had identified an available player with ability and with well known characteristics.
If Bowyer didn't want this player, he wouldn't have driven to the player's home last January to try and convince him to sign - and would have blocked signing him in October.
Managers at Maddison's previous club found ways to get the best out of him.
Why can't Bowyer?
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Anyone seriously blaming Gallen needs their head checked. The bloke has done absolute wonders for us since he joined.12