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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,733
    people calling for bowyers head as if we’re not top 6 with a game in hand ffs give your head a check
    who is calling for his head ?
  • We’ve not been our usual self for last 4 games and that needs to be rectified asap. 5/12 doesn’t sound great, but the fact we’ve been so poor and still ended up with 5 points is hopeful going forward, if the team can get back to looking like a team again. 
  • Blame the fans for this then Bowyer. 
    Absolutely fucking shite.
    Good night everyone 
    Shrewsbury fans made a lot more noise today than ours ever did on Wednesday and that was from the first minute!!
  • people calling for bowyers head as if we’re not top 6 with a game in hand ffs give your head a check
    In the posts above you, who has called for bowyers head?

    people are saying today’s result is on him! Big difference
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    I’m going to sit back, read this thread, and see which individual has completely lost the plot by Sunday morning 
  • Thoroughly deserved point for Shrewsbury. Would have been a travesty if we had won.

    For the first time ever, I am starting to doubt Bowyer. Constant changes to the team, different formation every week, picking Watson & Pratley in the centre of midfield, always going on the defensive at the end of games.

    He needs to go away and work out what is his best team and formation and pick it. And stop picking a team with one eye on next week.

    And his substitution of Williams was crass. Totally crass. He's going to piss off his players big time if he carries on like that. 
  • people calling for bowyers head as if we’re not top 6 with a game in hand ffs give your head a check
    who is calling for his head ?
    Golfie on the Match Thread: "Bowyer Out!!!"
  • people calling for bowyers head as if we’re not top 6 with a game in hand ffs give your head a check
    Teams below us have two games in hand, we are shit and have been for 70% of this season.

    If I was losing £50m a  year I'd want some answers as to what the fuck we are actually doing on the pitch. 
  • Stop the rotating, Bowyer.
    Put out our best eleven.


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  • Unacceptably bad performance which we deserved absolutely nothing from.  I like Bowyer but he is too set in his ways and we look completely uncoached.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,484
    Fans and Players alike need to learn to respect other teams at this level

    We went on a great run at one point in October, it showed what we could achieve and there were times like against Fleetwood where we weren't just papering over the cracks - For some reason we've all returned since Gillingham thinking that we've got a god given right to win this league. Its not as costly if the fans want to continue thinking that but the players certainly need to stop

    Enough of the shit, thinking its only Burton, its only Milton Keynes, its only Shrewsbury

    We should be beating these teams blah blah blah... We're at the same level for a bloody reason so the players especially, get used to it and quickly else we're going to be down here for a lot longer than what we want to be again!!!
    I certainly don't think we have a divine right to win any game but no one can argue that the last two performances haven't been dire. 
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    It is depressing how Bows doesn't appear to be learning from his tactical mistakes.

    We can all see how sitting back and playing defensively just invites pressure and ends up losing us points.

    Why can't he?

    I'd also be interested to learn if anything has changed regarding the positivity that we had in the camp a couple of months ago because many of the squad can play a lot better than they have been in the last few matches.  Hmm....
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    Absolutely 100% Bowyers fault only time we looked dangerous was when Willian was on, he is not a defender definitely should have pushed him on taken Washington off.

    Boogle is shit.
  • The last 4 minutes we lost all composure & just lumped clearances up into the air that meNt they came back at us. Should never of let that last ball bounce - both Gunter & Famewo backed away from it & then Gunter makes a reckless challenge. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    Talal said:
    Fair result. Two shit teams.
    We were lucky to get a point imo, Shrewsbury, despite being shit, deserved all 3.

    5 points from a possible 15, with every performance being sub par. Not good enough. 
  • JamesSeed said:
    Truly pathetic way to lose a match. Awful performance. Only upside were the CBs and Amos.
    I know a last-kick-of-the-game penalty makes it seem like a defeat but please pay attention!
  • Agreed Kentish
    This is the same crap we had last season. No real flow, too cautious, passing poor or passing back, vision - none.
    On paper this is a good side but not being utilised bad a good side.
  • JamesSeed said:
    Truly pathetic way to lose a match. Awful performance. Only upside were the CBs and Amos.
    Didn’t actually lose to be fair..
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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Fans and Players alike need to learn to respect other teams at this level

    We went on a great run at one point in October, it showed what we could achieve and there were times like against Fleetwood where we weren't just papering over the cracks - For some reason we've all returned since Gillingham thinking that we've got a god given right to win this league. Its not as costly if the fans want to continue thinking that but the players certainly need to stop

    Enough of the shit, thinking its only Burton, its only Milton Keynes, its only Shrewsbury

    We should be beating these teams blah blah blah... We're at the same level for a bloody reason so the players especially, get used to it and quickly else we're going to be down here for a lot longer than what we want to be again!!!
    mate I'm not going to have a dig because I know your way off thinking. It's not about disrespecting teams (although I completely agree about MK Dons who were decent) but come on. Shrewsbury are not a good side. I didn't rant after Burton or MK but today was a different level. 

    If teams turn up and we don't win then fair enough, but any decent League 1 team would have beaten Shrewsbury today. Bowyer is getting more and more negative, invites pressure and we get what we deserved. We had excuses last season but it happened regularly, we can't do that again this season. 
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,252
    Bringing on a defender was fair enough  but it should have been Washington going off  he barely touched the ball second half whereas Williams was fresh and had already been part of the goal build-up.
    But it was first Morgan who ballsed up the clearance that led to the goal, you can't blame Bowyer for that, just sloppy play.
    Until we get some speed and width in the team these ponderous performances are likely to carry on
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    people calling for bowyers head as if we’re not top 6 with a game in hand ffs give your head a check
    I think we are playing really poorly at the moment and haven’t clue what our best team is. I don’t particularly like out tactics in the last month either.

    But the speed at which our fans turn on our manager alarms me. It always does, but even more so with this one. 
    It's been three years and we've played positive, attacking football maybe four times total in that period? 
  • JamesSeed said:
    Truly pathetic way to lose a match. Awful performance. Only upside were the CBs and Amos.
    We didn't actually lose. Though it feels like it I grant you.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Well 1 point is better than none, BUT that was another abysmal performance to add to Gillingham, Burton and MK Dons!! We were lucky to get a point and on another day we could have lost 3-1, fortunately Amos made some great saves.
    There is a pattern developing and its not a good one, and what the hell must Willimas be thinking; subbed after coming on as a sub. I fully support LB, but he needs to use this week to sort things out and for god sake stop chopping and changing the side! I understand injuries will play there part, but when was the last time we played the same starting 11 2 times on the trot!!
    As I always say "What's not to like"? Well performances like that is the very easy answer.....it was poor from start to finish....end of.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Absolutely 100% Bowyers fault only time we looked dangerous was when Willian was on, he is not a defender definitely should have pushed him on taken Washington off.

    Boogle is shit.
    Wait we had Willian on? No wonder we had to sub him back off... 
  • Be interesting to see what Bowyer says about the Williams sub. I won't slaughter him for that yet as for all we know Williams might have felt something or taken a knock.
  • CAFCOlly
    CAFCOlly Posts: 523
    Shocking sub from Bowyer, and you just knew Shrewsbury would score once he made it. Take off the one player who can draw a foul and alleviate pressure, and instead bring on a defender to invite pressure?

    So, so frustrating. 
  • Can just hear Bowyer bleating in post-match interviews re managing the game.We were directionless, there's no leadership on the pitch. If you ask me,and you didn't,he is feeling the expectations now from having a good squad but of an owner who is expecting success. I think Bowyer will be found out pretty soon and TS will have a decision to make. I'd have truly said that even if we had won as that was another decidedly drab and uninspired performance. He's learnt nothing from last season's late concessions of goals and I am now sure he has no idea how to prevent it. Certainly,against a very average team,you must have greater effort and desire to keep the three points. I don't recall MK just tossing points away in the week. I am not bothered where we are in the table,the future is what concerns me as it's the same mistakes time and time again.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Be interesting to see what Bowyer says about the Williams sub. I won't slaughter him for that yet as for all we know Williams might have felt something or taken a knock.
    Jogged off alright and a couple of sprints seconds before being hooked.