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Ronnie Schwartz (Page 73 - contract cancelled)
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Or signs for Morecambe?Cafc43v3r said:
There will be a deadline day round up on the OS and the final line will be...blackpool72 said:
I'm still not convinced he will play for us.Callumcafc said:I remember last summer when people were calling out to-be top scorer “one goal Chuks”…
One goal Ronnie anybody?
Still expecting him to go back to Denmark.
"Ronnie Schwartz has joined Danish Club xxxxx for an undisclosed fee"
And that will be that.0 -
Would that be wise?ElfsborgAddick said:
Or signs for Morecambe?Cafc43v3r said:
There will be a deadline day round up on the OS and the final line will be...blackpool72 said:
I'm still not convinced he will play for us.Callumcafc said:I remember last summer when people were calling out to-be top scorer “one goal Chuks”…
One goal Ronnie anybody?
Still expecting him to go back to Denmark.
"Ronnie Schwartz has joined Danish Club xxxxx for an undisclosed fee"
And that will be that.20 -
The under 18’sCafc43v3r said:
And who exactly would we play in an u23 friendly that didn't play last night?RonnieMoore said:
He most likey doing the same as Inniss working away from the group on a diff program .. surprised there been no under 23 friendliesChris_from_Sidcup said:Yeah definitely don't see how that's critical of him. Just sounds like he's starting his pre-season a month behind everyone else0 -
Yes he can't work on the technical stuff by himself, but he can still keep himself fit, as he hasn't been ill. Running in the park, doing weights whether in the gym (I don't know if they're open in Denmark) or at home. Indeed surely the club medics would have given him a fitness routineDazzler21 said:"Ronnie Schwartz is a bit short at the moment, he needs a bit more work, but at least he's in at the training ground now and running round a bit."
Hardly critical, Adkins is talking about fitness not his quality and he's right.
Schwartz had been away for his personal stuff and on returning had to isolate, but he's back at the training ground now and has started running outside.
He's likely not been frozen out but is working with the fitness guys until he's fit enough to start interacting with the contact side of training. I'd be surprised if he's not back in the group by Sunday.
I don't think he's ever going to be the equivalent of Washington, Davison or Stockley as he's not quick or physical enough for those roles. He's more your 18 yard box finisher, but his fitness coming in last January was nowhere near where it needed to be. The slower games in the Danish division are probably the main reason (as suggested by our Danish based posters)
Sounds like some people don't want to give him a chance. Hopefully Ronnie is willing to work for his chance too0 -
Who already have there own friendlies. Who would play in them the u8s?Todds_right_hook said:
The under 18’sCafc43v3r said:
And who exactly would we play in an u23 friendly that didn't play last night?RonnieMoore said:
He most likey doing the same as Inniss working away from the group on a diff program .. surprised there been no under 23 friendliesChris_from_Sidcup said:Yeah definitely don't see how that's critical of him. Just sounds like he's starting his pre-season a month behind everyone else
Its déjà vu all over again
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Yes you have general fitness programmes and then you have getting match fit/sharp.killerandflash said:
Yes he can't work on the technical stuff by himself, but he can still keep himself fit, as he hasn't been ill. Running in the park, doing weights whether in the gym (I don't know if they're open in Denmark) or at home. Indeed surely the club medics would have given him a fitness routineDazzler21 said:"Ronnie Schwartz is a bit short at the moment, he needs a bit more work, but at least he's in at the training ground now and running round a bit."
Hardly critical, Adkins is talking about fitness not his quality and he's right.
Schwartz had been away for his personal stuff and on returning had to isolate, but he's back at the training ground now and has started running outside.
He's likely not been frozen out but is working with the fitness guys until he's fit enough to start interacting with the contact side of training. I'd be surprised if he's not back in the group by Sunday.
I don't think he's ever going to be the equivalent of Washington, Davison or Stockley as he's not quick or physical enough for those roles. He's more your 18 yard box finisher, but his fitness coming in last January was nowhere near where it needed to be. The slower games in the Danish division are probably the main reason (as suggested by our Danish based posters)
Sounds like some people don't want to give him a chance. Hopefully Ronnie is willing to work for his chance too
I'm not discounting the potential that he can't be fudged or that he's past it.
I just don't want to give up on him yet. If he leaves so be it. Will be a case of it just didn't work out, rather than any ill feelings. I doubt that's the same for all of us.0 -
‘Ronnie Schwartz has joined Wrexham for a fee of £4 million plus add ons.’Cafc43v3r said:
There will be a deadline day round up on the OS and the final line will be...blackpool72 said:
I'm still not convinced he will play for us.Callumcafc said:I remember last summer when people were calling out to-be top scorer “one goal Chuks”…
One goal Ronnie anybody?
Still expecting him to go back to Denmark.
"Ronnie Schwartz has joined Danish Club xxxxx for an undisclosed fee"
And that will be that.10 -
Deja vu of me trying to post smart arse comments without reading all posts and not realising somebody beat me to it by 8 hoursCafc43v3r said:
Who already have there own friendlies. Who would play in them the u8s?Todds_right_hook said:
The under 18’sCafc43v3r said:
And who exactly would we play in an u23 friendly that didn't play last night?RonnieMoore said:
He most likey doing the same as Inniss working away from the group on a diff program .. surprised there been no under 23 friendliesChris_from_Sidcup said:Yeah definitely don't see how that's critical of him. Just sounds like he's starting his pre-season a month behind everyone else
Its déjà vu all over again2 -
It’s a weird one - kinda feels like TS has got away with brushing this one under the carpet. His marquee signing has been more budget tent from Millets1
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Be honest, you thought you were on the rumours thread and so would be alright. 😉KTodds_right_hook said:
Deja vu of me trying to post smart arse comments without reading all posts and not realising somebody beat me to it by 8 hoursCafc43v3r said:
Who already have there own friendlies. Who would play in them the u8s?Todds_right_hook said:
The under 18’sCafc43v3r said:
And who exactly would we play in an u23 friendly that didn't play last night?RonnieMoore said:
He most likey doing the same as Inniss working away from the group on a diff program .. surprised there been no under 23 friendliesChris_from_Sidcup said:Yeah definitely don't see how that's critical of him. Just sounds like he's starting his pre-season a month behind everyone else
Its déjà vu all over again0 - Sponsored links:
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I've no ill feeling towards him, but he has to shows he wants to make a go of it in England, or it's better we cut our losses now, and he returns home and the club writes it off as "one of those transfer failures that happens sometimes"Dazzler21 said:
Yes you have general fitness programmes and then you have getting match fit/sharp.killerandflash said:
Yes he can't work on the technical stuff by himself, but he can still keep himself fit, as he hasn't been ill. Running in the park, doing weights whether in the gym (I don't know if they're open in Denmark) or at home. Indeed surely the club medics would have given him a fitness routineDazzler21 said:"Ronnie Schwartz is a bit short at the moment, he needs a bit more work, but at least he's in at the training ground now and running round a bit."
Hardly critical, Adkins is talking about fitness not his quality and he's right.
Schwartz had been away for his personal stuff and on returning had to isolate, but he's back at the training ground now and has started running outside.
He's likely not been frozen out but is working with the fitness guys until he's fit enough to start interacting with the contact side of training. I'd be surprised if he's not back in the group by Sunday.
I don't think he's ever going to be the equivalent of Washington, Davison or Stockley as he's not quick or physical enough for those roles. He's more your 18 yard box finisher, but his fitness coming in last January was nowhere near where it needed to be. The slower games in the Danish division are probably the main reason (as suggested by our Danish based posters)
Sounds like some people don't want to give him a chance. Hopefully Ronnie is willing to work for his chance too
I'm not discounting the potential that he can't be fudged or that he's past it.
I just don't want to give up on him yet. If he leaves so be it. Will be a case of it just didn't work out, rather than any ill feelings. I doubt that's the same for all of us.
Our record with goal scorer transfers, since the PL years has been pretty patchy really
Luke Varney, Izale McLeod, Paul Benson, Nicky Ajose have all disappointed, after being (for their times) relatively big buys1 -
But he's so far off the pace he's not even worth a 15 minute run in a PSF. That's not really good enough, 2 weeks from the season's opener.Dazzler21 said:
Yes you have general fitness programmes and then you have getting match fit/sharp.killerandflash said:
Yes he can't work on the technical stuff by himself, but he can still keep himself fit, as he hasn't been ill. Running in the park, doing weights whether in the gym (I don't know if they're open in Denmark) or at home. Indeed surely the club medics would have given him a fitness routineDazzler21 said:"Ronnie Schwartz is a bit short at the moment, he needs a bit more work, but at least he's in at the training ground now and running round a bit."
Hardly critical, Adkins is talking about fitness not his quality and he's right.
Schwartz had been away for his personal stuff and on returning had to isolate, but he's back at the training ground now and has started running outside.
He's likely not been frozen out but is working with the fitness guys until he's fit enough to start interacting with the contact side of training. I'd be surprised if he's not back in the group by Sunday.
I don't think he's ever going to be the equivalent of Washington, Davison or Stockley as he's not quick or physical enough for those roles. He's more your 18 yard box finisher, but his fitness coming in last January was nowhere near where it needed to be. The slower games in the Danish division are probably the main reason (as suggested by our Danish based posters)
Sounds like some people don't want to give him a chance. Hopefully Ronnie is willing to work for his chance too
I'm not discounting the potential that he can't be fudged or that he's past it.
I just don't want to give up on him yet. If he leaves so be it. Will be a case of it just didn't work out, rather than any ill feelings. I doubt that's the same for all of us.9 -
You can list all of the sub par strikers we have had over the decades but I honestly don't recall a player that the manager thought so badly of he didn't even bring him on, when he had 5 subs, in a must win game at 0-0 at home.
At that stage he wasn't 5th choice of 5 or what ever he was literally 2nd choice of 2 and still didn't get on.4 -
killerandflash said:
I've no ill feeling towards him, but he has to shows he wants to make a go of it in England, or it's better we cut our losses now, and he returns home and the club writes it off as "one of those transfer failures that happens sometimes"Dazzler21 said:
Yes you have general fitness programmes and then you have getting match fit/sharp.killerandflash said:
Yes he can't work on the technical stuff by himself, but he can still keep himself fit, as he hasn't been ill. Running in the park, doing weights whether in the gym (I don't know if they're open in Denmark) or at home. Indeed surely the club medics would have given him a fitness routineDazzler21 said:"Ronnie Schwartz is a bit short at the moment, he needs a bit more work, but at least he's in at the training ground now and running round a bit."
Hardly critical, Adkins is talking about fitness not his quality and he's right.
Schwartz had been away for his personal stuff and on returning had to isolate, but he's back at the training ground now and has started running outside.
He's likely not been frozen out but is working with the fitness guys until he's fit enough to start interacting with the contact side of training. I'd be surprised if he's not back in the group by Sunday.
I don't think he's ever going to be the equivalent of Washington, Davison or Stockley as he's not quick or physical enough for those roles. He's more your 18 yard box finisher, but his fitness coming in last January was nowhere near where it needed to be. The slower games in the Danish division are probably the main reason (as suggested by our Danish based posters)
Sounds like some people don't want to give him a chance. Hopefully Ronnie is willing to work for his chance too
I'm not discounting the potential that he can't be fudged or that he's past it.
I just don't want to give up on him yet. If he leaves so be it. Will be a case of it just didn't work out, rather than any ill feelings. I doubt that's the same for all of us.
Our record with goal scorer transfers, since the PL years has been pretty patchy really
Luke Varney, Izale McLeod, Paul Benson, Nicky Ajose have all disappointed, after being (for their times) relatively big buys
Paul benson did his job, put the ball in the back of the net when we played to his strengths. But he was a very one dimensional striker. Bit unfair to put him in the same list tbh4 -
Benson scored 10 in 33 league games, decent record, he was just a very limited player and offered little outside the box. We knew what we were getting though. The others were supposed to be goalscorers with pace and/or a better all round game.5
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Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there.
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He has to touch the ball 1st so I'd go with one touch Ronnie.Callumcafc said:I remember last summer when people were calling out to-be top scorer “one goal Chuks”…
One goal Ronnie anybody?0 -
He's not going to make it is he? A pity.
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varney was decent but nowhere near his valuation of 2 mil, if he'd have been 500k at the time i think we would've been happy. Mcloud was the worst though, barring a couple of sub appearances where he looked electric and won a pen he was dire. Genuinely thought we had the next bent on our hands.MarcusH26 said:Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there.2 -
All I'll ever remember Mcleod for was the elbow at Northwich.kentaddick said:
varney was decent but nowhere near his valuation of 2 mil, if he'd have been 500k at the time i think we would've been happy. Mcloud was the worst though, barring a couple of sub appearances where he looked electric and won a pen he was dire. Genuinely thought we had the next bent on our hands.MarcusH26 said:Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there.3 - Sponsored links:
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Honestly I forget Andy Gray from that era completely.Dazzler21 said:
He also had that game where he played off Andy Gray and looked like a real partnership could form.MarcusH26 said:Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there.0 -
Easily done seeing he's out working for BEin Sports nowMarcusH26 said:
Honestly I forget Andy Gray from that era completely.Dazzler21 said:
He also had that game where he played off Andy Gray and looked like a real partnership could form.MarcusH26 said:Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there.2 -
ah yes, didn't pardew then proceed to refuse to ever play the two together again?Dazzler21 said:
He also had that game where he played off Andy Gray and looked like a real partnership could form.MarcusH26 said:Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there.0 -
That was the game when Powell scored in his final ever gameDazzler21 said:
He also had that game where he played off Andy Gray and looked like a real partnership could form.MarcusH26 said:Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there.
Hard to believe that Kasper Schmeichel was the Goalkeeper given we beat Coventry 4-11 -
I feel like it was right at the end of the season? Coventry maybe?MarcusH26 said:
Honestly I forget Andy Gray from that era completely.Dazzler21 said:
He also had that game where he played off Andy Gray and looked like a real partnership could form.MarcusH26 said:Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there.
*edit it was Powell's last game for us, when he scored in the last minutes... Had such a feel good factor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biF7XGPmMus
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IMO Schwartz is a decent player. He looks to be an instinctive, out and out goal poacher. The finish for his one and only goal was out of the top drawer. I also don't think his penalty at Oxford was a poor effort it was a great save.He is a victim of circumstance. Clearly he has struggled to settle here without his partner. Add in the fact that neither manager he has played under has operated with two up front and he hasn't had much go in his favour.I honestly believe in a 442, with a decent run in the side alongside Stockley he would thrive. There is a player in there for sure. It's a shame that we are unlikely to see it as he just doesn't fit Adkins style of play.27
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Adkins on Ronnie Schwartz: He's a long way from being involved in Saturday's game. He won't be considered for the game on Saturday.
So he's got to be leaving this window right?3 -
I don’t know what’s happened, but unless we bring in another striker I would prefer Schwartz stays in the hope that he can at least be an effective squad player in L1.SELR_addicks said:Adkins on Ronnie Schwartz: He's a long way from being involved in Saturday's game. He won't be considered for the game on Saturday.
So he's got to be leaving this window right?1 -
We play AFC Wimbledon in the League Cup on 10th August, and then Crawley in the EFL Trophy on 31st August
Two very decent games to give him minutes in to try and prove himself
If he's not involved by the latter then I really dont see the point in him being here - Summer Transfer Window closes 2nd Sept so we've got until the Crawley game to see if there is any point in keeping him and then we can get rid a few days later worst case.1
