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Post-match Thread: Milton Keynes v Charlton Athletic | Tue 26 Jan 2021 | 7pm

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  • Pratley had a great game.  Not only kept Fraser quiet all the way through but had Jackson in his pocket too according to Curbs.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    paulfox said:
    Davo55 said:
    Ronnie Schwartz is a very good finisher but his contribution to team play needs some work.
    I would say the team’s contribution to him needs to be better, the bloke hasn’t had a chance to get in games!!.
    Also he almost scored very early on the other day. We're not used to playing the ball into a finisher, we've become accustomed to lumping it long. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    redbuttle said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    We have come back from 3-1 down against the team in 18th, 2 down against the team in 23rd, and beaten the teams in 16th and 19th 1-0 away and people honestly think that's good and gutsy? 
    Can you actually give it a rest please.
    Why do you think that's anything to brag about? 
    It isnt but you sound disappointed we won...

    Like Bowyer is saying, it just gives the players and everyone a lift
    No of course I am pleased we won.  But saying MK Dons are a decent side for this level or saying we struggled against worse is damming with fair praise.  They aren't.  They are 16th for a reason. To paraphrase Tony Mowbray "we should be beating teams like that".

    Like I said after the last few games, there are signs since the last hour against Rochdale that a corner is being turned but we still aren't putting together a good 90 minutes, let alone a string of games.

    4 points is the absolute minimum we should have got out of those last 2 games isn't it? 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    redbuttle said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    We have come back from 3-1 down against the team in 18th, 2 down against the team in 23rd, and beaten the teams in 16th and 19th 1-0 away and people honestly think that's good and gutsy? 
    Can you actually give it a rest please.
    Why do you think that's anything to brag about? 
    It isnt but you sound disappointed we won...

    Like Bowyer is saying, it just gives the players and everyone a lift
    It's a building block and whilst Bowyer tactically still made very weird decisions (Shinnie and Morgan to CF while Schwartz to RW?) We won, let's enjoy that now and pull apart the details tomorrow. 
    This is just it... Imagine the melt down on here if Bowyer had come out just now and said that the players needed to stop and realise it was only Milton Keynes that we'd beaten - We bloody needed something, anything to build from
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,353
    Well done Bows and the lads.


  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,848
    Jayajosh said:
    Jayajosh said:
    Even when we win people seem to find a way to moan. Great 3 points
    In all fairness we were outplayed for the final 60 minutes and didn’t look like we had any hope of scoring.
    We didnt need to
    Yes we do, seen too many games where we’ve conceded late. Easy to say we didn’t need to when the game is over. 
    Haha so many people on here and bloody remarkable!! - I've defended Bowyer for weeks saying that fans have the beauty of hindsight when they say his team selections dont win, only to be shouted down constantly that its a lousy point to bring up

    So dont even think about using the argument of hindsight against me!!
    I don't think you quite understand how this works.

    If we lose it's because of Bowyer and his tactics. If we win it's despite Bowyer and his tactics. 

    Them's the rules.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    edited January 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    redbuttle said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    We have come back from 3-1 down against the team in 18th, 2 down against the team in 23rd, and beaten the teams in 16th and 19th 1-0 away and people honestly think that's good and gutsy? 
    Can you actually give it a rest please.
    Why do you think that's anything to brag about? 
    It isnt but you sound disappointed we won...

    Like Bowyer is saying, it just gives the players and everyone a lift
    No of course I am pleased we won.  But saying MK Dons are a decent side for this level or saying we struggled against worse is damming with fair praise.  They aren't.  They are 16th for a reason. To paraphrase Tony Mowbray "we should be beating teams like that".

    Like I said after the last few games, there are signs since the last hour against Rochdale that a corner is being turned but we still aren't putting together a good 90 minutes, let alone a string of games.

    4 points is the absolute minimum we should have got out of those last 2 games isn't it? 
    Well my first two words in my last post confirm that... I agree its nothing to shout home about

    But at the same time every win isnt going to be a performance at the standard from Saturday when we bloody deserved all three points - Its the strange way that Football works, yet with Portsmouth on their way I'm glad the defence have a bit of confidence from tonight to build upon, the issue was never about scoring goals, it hasnt been the case all season, provided we get chances to attack on Saturday there is a good chance we'll score

    Up until tonight, we've shown too easily that the opposition can do that themselves
  • Pitch 0-10
    Effort 10-10
    Clean sheet 10-10
    Three points 10-10
    I'm feeling 10-10

    Thanks Lee and the boys. Safe journey home. 

    MOM Millar. 
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    edited January 2021
    Pratley had a great game.  Not only kept Fraser quiet all the way through but had Jackson in his pocket too according to Curbs.
    I think Pratley has proved himself why we should never see him at cb again!!. Did really well today just slightly behind millar for Motm.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited January 2021
    The vote of the Judges are coming in for Milton Keynes 

    That may emulate Torvile and Dean.

    6.6.6.6.6.6.6.6.6.
    Fantastic artistic impression by MK Dons.

    Thank fuck it's Football and its how many times you put the ball in the net.

    Ugly Charlton get the 3 points.
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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I was disappointed that when we looked to attack first half hour we looked like scoring every attack. The next hour we didn’t really look to do anything and allowed them to control the game. 

    But Bowyers gameplan was spot on. Gunter had a decent game at CB, Deji very good again and generally we looked solid. Pratley man of the match for me, only thing he did wrong all night was when he should have shot first half. Millar a constant thread and the strikers led the line working hard. 

    Generally like Bristol Rovers not an outstanding display just a solid team effort. If we can get Famewo fit I think we could go on a run. February a huge month as I genuinely feel we can win all those matches and close the gap on the top 2 to a point or two. 
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,426
    Lovely stuff. 

    Well done Miller, Pratley and Bowyer. 
  • Just to let people know this season against the top 6 sides in the league MK Dons have basically had 60 - 70% possession.

    Let that sink in when you're bemoaning the fact we didn't see lots of the ball and were defending loads. Every other side they have played have had the same experience. 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    Millar was immense. MOTM. He is going to be some player
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    Solid performance and good 3 points away from home.

    it seems that when we play entertaining football we loose or draw, when we are boring we win, funny old game.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Davo55 said:
    Ronnie Schwartz is a very good finisher but his contribution to team play needs some work.
    You mean like play perfectly weighted passes where we could easily have gone 2-0 up? 
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    edited January 2021
    Millar - what a signing. He gives us so much going forward and he does the oh-so-important work at the other end too. How many times was he back-tracking or nicking the ball away? Quality. Imagine if we'd had him from the start of the season instead of Smyth.

    So pleased Shinnie is back - brilliant player. His pressing. His eye for a pass. His ability to find space and cover every blade grass. Missed him so much. Just as much as those CBs.

    Speaking of CBs, how good has Deji been since he's come in?! What does he do in training to make Lee not fancy him most of the time? So much so he had to wait until pretty much all other options were explored before him.

    Pratley put in a classic Pratley performance - all over the pitch - him and JFC kept the superb Fraser quiet all game long.

    Couldn't help be nervous in that second half and that nervousness will be where all the negative comments came from. Bet we'll all have a spring in our step now.

    A win and a clean sheet. Love it.
  • Decent win away.  We made it hard for ourselves second half but no surprise we dropped off given the run we have been on.  We have bemoaned our luck of late but today they hit the post and bar and Amos made a great save plus Millar's excellent defending near the end.  You make your own luck and we earned that tonight.

    7 points from 4 games, if we can find a way to beat Pompey and can bring another player or two in and have Innis, Famewo and Maddison return we have half a chance of play offs but we need to go on a run.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    I’m almost enjoying the mental gymnastics some are doing on this thread, as much as the result and performance.
  • esseffect
    esseffect Posts: 493
    Dazzler21 said:
    esseffect said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    redbuttle said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    We have come back from 3-1 down against the team in 18th, 2 down against the team in 23rd, and beaten the teams in 16th and 19th 1-0 away and people honestly think that's good and gutsy? 
    Can you actually give it a rest please.
    Why do you think that's anything to brag about? 
    About time we had mediocre performance and got 3 points.

    I’ll take that over playing well and then losing out to individual defensive errors 
    In fairness it was a mediocre 35 minutes. 

    Once Washington went off and we pushed Shinnie into the CF role and Schwartz to RW we were completely unbalanced. A managerial decision that didn't work. 

    We got the win though so Hurrah to the haddocks. 
    True, but his hand forced to make that decision? 

    I’m a big advocate of Washington and his pressure/getting in behind defenders. Don’t think we have many others like it.

    which is why I can’t understand people being flakey on him
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  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    GAME PLAN, we had a game plan and executed it, whatever you think of bows he deserves praise for that.

    Fraser was heavily marked and surrounded whenever he got possession, and when they had the ball we were regimented.

    Matthews back to his best doing that thing where you let the player take a slight touch and wedge yourself between him and the ball, his specialty that.  

    Oshilaja has found his level, he’s a league one centre half and it shows, solid again.

    Millar as well took his goal well and was our best attacking outlet.

    Didn’t keep the ball well last half hour only criticism against a side that are misplaced somewhat.  Well played the lads big 3 that.
  • Like to make us sweat don't they..?
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,986
    Good win but rode our luck big time in the second half - although I reckon that’s about our fragile confidence having conceded goals galore. Reckon that win and clean sheet could be a turning point. Pompey on Sat will be huge. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,848
    ct_addick said:
    Millar was immense. MOTM. He is going to be some player
    Didn't expect him to talk like that! 

    Visually he looks every inch the cheeky scouse chappie.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited January 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    redbuttle said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    We have come back from 3-1 down against the team in 18th, 2 down against the team in 23rd, and beaten the teams in 16th and 19th 1-0 away and people honestly think that's good and gutsy? 
    Can you actually give it a rest please.
    Why do you think that's anything to brag about? 
    It isnt but you sound disappointed we won...

    Like Bowyer is saying, it just gives the players and everyone a lift
    No of course I am pleased we won.  But saying MK Dons are a decent side for this level or saying we struggled against worse is damming with fair praise.  They aren't.  They are 16th for a reason. To paraphrase Tony Mowbray "we should be beating teams like that".

    Like I said after the last few games, there are signs since the last hour against Rochdale that a corner is being turned but we still aren't putting together a good 90 minutes, let alone a string of games.

    4 points is the absolute minimum we should have got out of those last 2 games isn't it? 
    16th yet in a bit of form, certainly better than ours. 

    Since we last played (Most recent first) 
    MKD WLWWLDDLW 14/27pts 1.55ppg
    CAFC DLWDLLDDWDL 11/33pts 1ppg
  • bromleyjohn
    bromleyjohn Posts: 5,986
    Best defensive performance in a very long time. Millar outstanding . Midfield did brilliantly also
  • esseffect
    esseffect Posts: 493
    Off_it said:
    Jayajosh said:
    Jayajosh said:
    Even when we win people seem to find a way to moan. Great 3 points
    In all fairness we were outplayed for the final 60 minutes and didn’t look like we had any hope of scoring.
    We didnt need to
    Yes we do, seen too many games where we’ve conceded late. Easy to say we didn’t need to when the game is over. 
    Haha so many people on here and bloody remarkable!! - I've defended Bowyer for weeks saying that fans have the beauty of hindsight when they say his team selections dont win, only to be shouted down constantly that its a lousy point to bring up

    So dont even think about using the argument of hindsight against me!!
    I don't think you quite understand how this works.

    If we lose it's because of Bowyer and his tactics. If we win it's despite Bowyer and his tactics. 

    Them's the rules.
    Those people go and hide until the next loss...

    Yes, I do think we will lose another game this season, but I don’t intend to cry about it