Vaccine
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It seems to me that @Nadou brings up points when fresh news about the vaccine(s) emerges on a daily basis. Not the same things, but stuff related to the developing and ever changing news releases about the vaccines.
One earlier example about news related to the vaccine(s) was the original information that said a second dose should happen within four weeks of the first, that was added to by later stories saying for Astra Zenica it is OK to have the second dose as late as twelve weeks after the first, then more news emerged saying that actually the longer time between injections the better.
As the information changes, the type of enquiry from posters on here changes slightly along with it, I can't for the life of me understand what's wrong with that, or why a poster should be put down for it.1 -
seth plum said:It seems to me that @Nadou brings up points when fresh news about the vaccine(s) emerges on a daily basis. Not the same things, but stuff related to the developing and ever changing news releases about the vaccines.
One earlier example about news related to the vaccine(s) was the original information that said a second dose should happen within four weeks of the first, that was added to by later stories saying for Astra Zenica it is OK to have the second dose as late as twelve weeks after the first, then more news emerged saying that actually the longer time between injections the better.
As the information changes, the type of enquiry from posters on here changes slightly along with it, I can't for the life of me understand what's wrong with that, or why a poster should be put down for it.
If you read the thread Nadou has been asking about blood clots for the last couple of days.
It's nothing to do with waiting times between 1st and 2nd doses.1 -
Covered End said:Nadou said:Covered End said:Nadou said:Covered End said:I'd give up if I were you SHG, there's only so many ways and times that you can explain.
You have been asking the same question/similar question repeatedly for the last couple of days.
You have had the answers that all vaccines may have side effects and it is possible that there is a side effect of blood clots.
However, the people responding to your repeated questions have offered their opinion, that the odd blood clot case is preferable to thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of people getting Covid.
So statistically the blood clot cases are not significant.
You appear to accept this and then repeat the question again.
So no I'm terribly sorry but I don't see how I can explain what you have not understood, because I can't understand what you haven't understood and why you continue to ask the same people the same questions for days on end.
I now expect you to ask the same question again.4 -
Covered End said:seth plum said:It seems to me that @Nadou brings up points when fresh news about the vaccine(s) emerges on a daily basis. Not the same things, but stuff related to the developing and ever changing news releases about the vaccines.
One earlier example about news related to the vaccine(s) was the original information that said a second dose should happen within four weeks of the first, that was added to by later stories saying for Astra Zenica it is OK to have the second dose as late as twelve weeks after the first, then more news emerged saying that actually the longer time between injections the better.
As the information changes, the type of enquiry from posters on here changes slightly along with it, I can't for the life of me understand what's wrong with that, or why a poster should be put down for it.
If you read the thread Nadou has been asking about blood clots for the last couple of days.
It's nothing to do with waiting times between 1st and 2nd doses.2 -
Solidgone said:Covered End said:Nadou said:Covered End said:Nadou said:Covered End said:I'd give up if I were you SHG, there's only so many ways and times that you can explain.
You have been asking the same question/similar question repeatedly for the last couple of days.
You have had the answers that all vaccines may have side effects and it is possible that there is a side effect of blood clots.
However, the people responding to your repeated questions have offered their opinion, that the odd blood clot case is preferable to thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of people getting Covid.
So statistically the blood clot cases are not significant.
You appear to accept this and then repeat the question again.
So no I'm terribly sorry but I don't see how I can explain what you have not understood, because I can't understand what you haven't understood and why you continue to ask the same people the same questions for days on end.
I now expect you to ask the same question again.2 -
seth plum said:Covered End said:seth plum said:It seems to me that @Nadou brings up points when fresh news about the vaccine(s) emerges on a daily basis. Not the same things, but stuff related to the developing and ever changing news releases about the vaccines.
One earlier example about news related to the vaccine(s) was the original information that said a second dose should happen within four weeks of the first, that was added to by later stories saying for Astra Zenica it is OK to have the second dose as late as twelve weeks after the first, then more news emerged saying that actually the longer time between injections the better.
As the information changes, the type of enquiry from posters on here changes slightly along with it, I can't for the life of me understand what's wrong with that, or why a poster should be put down for it.
If you read the thread Nadou has been asking about blood clots for the last couple of days.
It's nothing to do with waiting times between 1st and 2nd doses.8 -
I am not referring only to data, but to the developing stories and interest in the blood clot topic.
This story is from 31st March:
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-review-very-rare-cases-unusual-blood-clots-continues
This story is from yesterday:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/covid-coronavirus-astrazeneca-blood-clots-b927606.html
This story is from today:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56620646
From memory there have been other stories from different European countries in recent days too.
Personally I believe any risks are far outweighed by the benefits of the vaccine(s), but the blood clot story, notwithstanding specific data, is still a live and current one, and a poster alluding to the issue seems to be perfectly reasonable.2 -
seth plum said:I am not referring only to data, but to the developing stories and interest in the blood clot topic.
This story is from 31st March:
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-review-very-rare-cases-unusual-blood-clots-continues
This story is from yesterday:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/covid-coronavirus-astrazeneca-blood-clots-b927606.html
This story is from today:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56620646
From memory there have been other stories from different European countries in recent days too.
Personally I believe any risks are far outweighed by the benefits of the vaccine(s), but the blood clot story, notwithstanding specific data, is still a live and current one, and a poster alluding to the issue seems to be perfectly reasonable.4 -
Preliminary data out of the US also showing that the vaccine dramatically reduces the chances of transmitting COVID.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/04/cdc-data-suggests-vaccinated-dont-carry-cant-spread-virus.html
Not a huge shock really given the collapse of cases in the UK, the US and Israel.9 -
cafcnick1992 said:Preliminary data out of the US also showing that the vaccine dramatically reduces the chances of transmitting COVID.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/04/cdc-data-suggests-vaccinated-dont-carry-cant-spread-virus.html
Not a huge shock really given the collapse of cases in the UK, the US and Israel.
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Redrobo said:cafcnick1992 said:Preliminary data out of the US also showing that the vaccine dramatically reduces the chances of transmitting COVID.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/04/cdc-data-suggests-vaccinated-dont-carry-cant-spread-virus.html
Not a huge shock really given the collapse of cases in the UK, the US and Israel.4 -
Redrobo said:cafcnick1992 said:Preliminary data out of the US also showing that the vaccine dramatically reduces the chances of transmitting COVID.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/04/cdc-data-suggests-vaccinated-dont-carry-cant-spread-virus.html
Not a huge shock really given the collapse of cases in the UK, the US and Israel.2 -
Had my first jab of AZ on Wednesday afternoon. Got about two hours sleep that night, woke up with a huge headache and aching everywhere. Spent Thursday wrapped up but feeling freezing. Fine on Friday. Spoke to a couple of friends who had similar experience, but all good now.Have to wait til 3rd week in June for part 2, but it all seems to be going really well so far with the rollout. The staff and St John’s volunteers at the QE were superb.6
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And it's all gone AZ over there
It's all gone AZ over there0 -
ShootersHillGuru said:Redrobo said:cafcnick1992 said:Preliminary data out of the US also showing that the vaccine dramatically reduces the chances of transmitting COVID.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/04/cdc-data-suggests-vaccinated-dont-carry-cant-spread-virus.html
Not a huge shock really given the collapse of cases in the UK, the US and Israel.1 -
Channel 4 News reporting that UK Regulator is looking again at whether Oxford AZ should be given to under 30 year olds (particularly females). Announcement explected in next few days.
Bit concerning.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-astrazenec-idUSKBN2BS1QE
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Getting my first shot in a couple of hours - Moderna.11
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Chaz Hill said:Channel 4 News reporting that UK Regulator is looking again at whether Oxford AZ should be given to under 30 year olds (particularly females). Announcement explected in next few days.
Bit concerning.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-astrazenec-idUSKBN2BS1QE
I'd be concerned if they weren't looking into it.
No bad can come of this. If there is even the slightest risk then it won't be given to that group and they will get a different one. If there isn't a risk then all good.
To make it clear the only reason there is doubt about the under 30s is because so few have been given the vaccine outside testing. There is no doubt/concern for the over 30s because we have a massive sample.11 - Sponsored links:
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cantersaddick said:Chaz Hill said:Channel 4 News reporting that UK Regulator is looking again at whether Oxford AZ should be given to under 30 year olds (particularly females). Announcement explected in next few days.
Bit concerning.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-astrazenec-idUSKBN2BS1QE
I'd be concerned if they weren't looking into it.
No bad can come of this. If there is even the slightest risk then it won't be given to that group and they will get a different one. If there isn't a risk then all good.
To make it clear the only reason there is doubt about the under 30s is because so few have been given the vaccine outside testing. There is no doubt/concern for the over 30s because we have a massive sample.11 -
Little concerned as an under 30 that's due their second dose at the end of the month , but on the other hand it's reassuring that it's being looked at.
If they do make the decision that there's enough of a concern , where would that leave me as someone in the CEV category?0 -
cantersaddick said:Chaz Hill said:Channel 4 News reporting that UK Regulator is looking again at whether Oxford AZ should be given to under 30 year olds (particularly females). Announcement explected in next few days.
Bit concerning.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-astrazenec-idUSKBN2BS1QE
I'd be concerned if they weren't looking into it.
No bad can come of this. If there is even the slightest risk then it won't be given to that group and they will get a different one. If there isn't a risk then all good.
To make it clear the only reason there is doubt about the under 30s is because so few have been given the vaccine outside testing. There is no doubt/concern for the over 30s because we have a massive sample.0 -
The Moderna vaccine will be in deployment in the UK "around the third week of April", vaccines minister Nadhim Zahawi has confirmed.
Zahawi also told BBC Breakfast there would be "more volume" of the jab in May.
"And of course more volume of Pfizer and Oxford-AstraZeneca and we have got other vaccines.
"We have got the Janssen [Johnson and Johnson] vaccine coming through as well.
"So I am confident that we will be able to meet our target of mid-April, offering the vaccine to all over-50s, and then end of July offering the vaccine to all adults."
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Callumcafc said:Getting my first shot in a couple of hours - Moderna.
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Chaz Hill said:cantersaddick said:Chaz Hill said:Channel 4 News reporting that UK Regulator is looking again at whether Oxford AZ should be given to under 30 year olds (particularly females). Announcement explected in next few days.
Bit concerning.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-astrazenec-idUSKBN2BS1QE
I'd be concerned if they weren't looking into it.
No bad can come of this. If there is even the slightest risk then it won't be given to that group and they will get a different one. If there isn't a risk then all good.
To make it clear the only reason there is doubt about the under 30s is because so few have been given the vaccine outside testing. There is no doubt/concern for the over 30s because we have a massive sample.Opps, seems perhaps plenty of alternatives might not be available in the short term. Hopefully Sage are being overly cautious.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/apr/06/england-covid-vaccine-programme-could-slow-sharply-sage-warns?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Three in five UK adults have received a first dose of a coronavirus jab, the health secretary says.
Some 31,622,367 have received a first vaccine, with 5,496,716 people now fully vaccinated thanks to a second dose - 10.4% of the adult population.
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Just had my first jab unexpectedly (ie was given 30 mins notice) Astra Zenica, happy to be vaccinated. Feel fine so far 3 hours in.7
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Vienna_Addick said:Callumcafc said:Getting my first shot in a couple of hours - Moderna.No side effects for either us yet other than the usual that comes with any vaccination.1
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The Mrs is booked for her first jab tomorrow: Sinovac, one of the Chinese ones with the lowest efficacy rate of all of them. They want to open Phuket to tourists in July so people here are getting vaccinated before most of the rest of the country, regardless of age and occupation. Nothing for expats though but that's fine as I'd prefer to wait for AZ.
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