Still suffering with long Covid and was given AZ last night. After 7 hours every Covid symptom erupted together. Fever returned and I have loss of smell for the first time. Feel dreadful but am interested whether the vaccine might be having a tussle with all of the sites with Covid remnants in my body? Time will tell and I was forewarned I may be in for a rough 48 hours. Hope it is max 48 hours and the vaccine helps.
Hope you’re feeling better today and that the first dose manages to get the long Covid out of your system once and for all.
Thank you! Fever has gone thankfully and smell has returned. Back to long Covid symptoms but know (from reading) if I am lucky enough it takes approx a week for the T-cells to work their magic on long Covid so 🤞. Will not hesitate going through the last day and a half or so again to give me the protection.
Private Eye this week. The part that stands out for me is that if we had the vaccine at the start of the pandemic, at least 100,000 lives would have been prevented in the U.K., and there would have been 5 deaths from blood clots.
Private Eye this week. The part that stands out for me is that if we had the vaccine at the start of the pandemic, at least 100,000 lives would have been prevented in the U.K., and there would have been 5 deaths from blood clots.
"With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million"
how many can say they or someone they know has been struck by lightning?
I read a newspaper article about a park ranger in the US that had been struck by lightening numerous times, but ended up shooting himself as he was heartbroken.
After a quick Google search his name was Roy Sullivan and he had survived seven lightening strikes.
Private Eye this week. The part that stands out for me is that if we had the vaccine at the start of the pandemic, at least 100,000 lives would have been prevented in the U.K., and there would have been 5 deaths from blood clots.
"With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million"
People trying to downplay the clotting risk is dangerous. It needs to be scrutinised properly rather than just hand-waved away.
It is being scrutinised. That's exactly what happens every single time a new medicine is released and more statistical data becomes available as more people take it. The statistics are *literally* shown multiple times in the thread above. Along with the statistics of being struck by lightning, and of getting a blood clot through taking a contraceptive, and developing one after catching covid.
Private Eye this week. The part that stands out for me is that if we had the vaccine at the start of the pandemic, at least 100,000 lives would have been prevented in the U.K., and there would have been 5 deaths from blood clots.
"With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million"
Private Eye this week. The part that stands out for me is that if we had the vaccine at the start of the pandemic, at least 100,000 lives would have been prevented in the U.K., and there would have been 5 deaths from blood clots.
"With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million"
There are no data that prove the vaccine provides immunity from, or prevents the transmission of the virus. It will temper the aggresiveness of the symptoms if contracted, nothing more.
Private Eye this week. The part that stands out for me is that if we had the vaccine at the start of the pandemic, at least 100,000 lives would have been prevented in the U.K., and there would have been 5 deaths from blood clots.
"With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million"
People trying to downplay the clotting risk is dangerous. It needs to be scrutinised properly rather than just hand-waved away.
Vaccine available March 2020.
Hypothetically:
Don’t take the vaccine, 127,000 covid deaths, no blood clot deaths Take the vaccine, 27,000 covid deaths, 5 blood clot deaths.
What do you choose?
Pfizer?
This isn't an either/or.
This is a 'maybe an alternative might be safer?'
Pfizer has been linked to blood clots too.
Bottom line, tens of thousands of deaths could have been prevented if the vaccine had been available ... which now applies to future deaths which WILL be prevented.
Private Eye this week. The part that stands out for me is that if we had the vaccine at the start of the pandemic, at least 100,000 lives would have been prevented in the U.K., and there would have been 5 deaths from blood clots.
"With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million"
People trying to downplay the clotting risk is dangerous. It needs to be scrutinised properly rather than just hand-waved away.
Vaccine available March 2020.
Hypothetically:
Don’t take the vaccine, 127,000 covid deaths, no blood clot deaths Take the vaccine, 27,000 covid deaths, 5 blood clot deaths.
What do you choose?
Pfizer?
This isn't an either/or.
This is a 'maybe an alternative might be safer?'
Pfizer has been linked to blood clots too.
Bottom line, tens of thousands of deaths could have been prevented if the vaccine had been available ... which now applies to future deaths which WILL be prevented.
AZ is safer than having no vaccine of course.
We have at least 8 vaccines available. Isn't it in science's best interest to figure out which one is safer and then increase production of that type of vaccine?
Especially with word that booster jabs will be needed in the future.
Just going ahead with all of them, then discovering that under 30s may have been safer not even having the vaccine is a bit too late.
I live in Finland so this is a bit different for me. But I have a blood clotting issue and have had 5 blood clots in the past 5 years. (I am now on Eliquis for life) They ruled out the oxAZ Jab because of this underlying health issue and because I am 30 years old (Apparently a small minority Under 30's have had blood clot reactions to this vaccine) I had the first Pfizer jab last week and I have been lucky enough to feel absolutely fine. I had a sore arm for a few days but that was it. I have heard the second jab isn't as nice but will still take it, I am due that at the end of June.
It is remarkable to see the turn around in England and by how much the infection rates and death's have dropped!
Private Eye this week. The part that stands out for me is that if we had the vaccine at the start of the pandemic, at least 100,000 lives would have been prevented in the U.K., and there would have been 5 deaths from blood clots.
"With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million"
People trying to downplay the clotting risk is dangerous. It needs to be scrutinised properly rather than just hand-waved away.
Vaccine available March 2020.
Hypothetically:
Don’t take the vaccine, 127,000 covid deaths, no blood clot deaths Take the vaccine, 27,000 covid deaths, 5 blood clot deaths.
What do you choose?
Pfizer?
This isn't an either/or.
This is a 'maybe an alternative might be safer?'
Pfizer has been linked to blood clots too.
Bottom line, tens of thousands of deaths could have been prevented if the vaccine had been available ... which now applies to future deaths which WILL be prevented.
And this doesn't even scratch the surface of the number of times they've been sued for negligence and fraud.
Private Eye this week. The part that stands out for me is that if we had the vaccine at the start of the pandemic, at least 100,000 lives would have been prevented in the U.K., and there would have been 5 deaths from blood clots.
"With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million"
People trying to downplay the clotting risk is dangerous. It needs to be scrutinised properly rather than just hand-waved away.
Vaccine available March 2020.
Hypothetically:
Don’t take the vaccine, 127,000 covid deaths, no blood clot deaths Take the vaccine, 27,000 covid deaths, 5 blood clot deaths.
What do you choose?
Pfizer?
This isn't an either/or.
This is a 'maybe an alternative might be safer?'
Pfizer has been linked to blood clots too.
Bottom line, tens of thousands of deaths could have been prevented if the vaccine had been available ... which now applies to future deaths which WILL be prevented.
And this doesn't even scratch the surface of the number of times they've been sued for negligence and fraud.
Just like every single other drug company. Suing drug companies is almost as lucrative a business as developing drugs themselves.
Private Eye this week. The part that stands out for me is that if we had the vaccine at the start of the pandemic, at least 100,000 lives would have been prevented in the U.K., and there would have been 5 deaths from blood clots.
"With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million"
People trying to downplay the clotting risk is dangerous. It needs to be scrutinised properly rather than just hand-waved away.
Vaccine available March 2020.
Hypothetically:
Don’t take the vaccine, 127,000 covid deaths, no blood clot deaths Take the vaccine, 27,000 covid deaths, 5 blood clot deaths.
What do you choose?
Pfizer?
This isn't an either/or.
This is a 'maybe an alternative might be safer?'
Pfizer has been linked to blood clots too.
Bottom line, tens of thousands of deaths could have been prevented if the vaccine had been available ... which now applies to future deaths which WILL be prevented.
And this doesn't even scratch the surface of the number of times they've been sued for negligence and fraud.
Just like every single other drug company. Suing drug companies is almost as lucrative a business as developing drugs themselves.
But they're only made to pay out $2.3b if they're guilty. And as I said, this particular case is just one of many where they have been found guilty of fraud, negligence and gross mendacity.
Still suffering with long Covid and was given AZ last night. After 7 hours every Covid symptom erupted together. Fever returned and I have loss of smell for the first time. Feel dreadful but am interested whether the vaccine might be having a tussle with all of the sites with Covid remnants in my body? Time will tell and I was forewarned I may be in for a rough 48 hours. Hope it is max 48 hours and the vaccine helps.
My guess would've been that it triggered your pre-existing immune response from your recent Covid infection, and that's why the fever etc are back, as they're the body's way of fighting infection (got no clue about the loss of smell thing though ). As another long hauler it's one reason why I was a bit worried about having the vaccine in case my immune system went haywire in a similar way, but that seems not to be the case, possibly because I was infected a lot longer ago. All I've had is a sore arm and a flare up of the fatigue, although the latter may just be down to having to be a bit more social than normal due to Easter and family birthdays.
Hope you're feeling better soon, and you're one of the lucky ones that seem to find the vaccine makes their symptoms improve.
Mother in law is one of the volunteers at the vaccination centre in Epping and there were 14 Pfizer ones left from no shows yesterday evening so everyone’s encouraged to ask who they know if they want a vaccine this has been going on for a few weeks when she’s been there , so my wife eventually went and had one last night she’s only 38 so not due yet , no after effects so far
********* Good on Mrs Oohaah. It's worrying how many people do not make these appointments. What a waste it can be.
2nd AZ jab booked for Thursday this week, 8 weeks after the first one. I had no problems after the first other than being freezing cold for one afternoon, 3 days after it.
I live in Finland so this is a bit different for me. But I have a blood clotting issue and have had 5 blood clots in the past 5 years. (I am now on Eliquis for life) They ruled out the oxAZ Jab because of this underlying health issue and because I am 30 years old (Apparently a small minority Under 30's have had blood clot reactions to this vaccine) I had the first Pfizer jab last week and I have been lucky enough to feel absolutely fine. I had a sore arm for a few days but that was it. I have heard the second jab isn't as nice but will still take it, I am due that at the end of June.
It is remarkable to see the turn around in England and by how much the infection rates and death's have dropped!
I heard from several sources that the second Pfizer jab would have more side effects than the first. Had the second jab on Friday and had none. Out in the sun yesterday and walked 10km.
Active cases in the Borough of Greenwich down into double figures.
2nd AZ jab booked for Thursday this week, 8 weeks after the first one. I had no problems after the first other than being freezing cold for one afternoon, 3 days after it.
Interestingly I had similar symptoms exactly a week after my first jab
Jabbed up. Currently sat in the waiting room (I'm allergic to pears, anyone who has had an anaphylacitc reaction in the past has to wait ten minutes afterwards, standard for all jabs I've had in the past). Proper well organised - dead impressed. Fully expect to be sick as a dog the next two days cos I've got the immune system of a champion racehorse 😂😂😂
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/223811436_Deaths_and_injuries_caused_by_lightning_in_the_United_Kingdom_Analyses_of_two_databases
People trying to downplay the clotting risk is dangerous. It needs to be scrutinised properly rather than just hand-waved away.
After a quick Google search his name was Roy Sullivan and he had survived seven lightening strikes.
Take the vaccine, 27,000 covid deaths, 5 blood clot deaths.
This isn't an either/or.
This is a 'maybe an alternative might be safer?'
It will temper the aggresiveness of the symptoms if contracted, nothing more.
We have at least 8 vaccines available. Isn't it in science's best interest to figure out which one is safer and then increase production of that type of vaccine?
Especially with word that booster jabs will be needed in the future.
Just going ahead with all of them, then discovering that under 30s may have been safer not even having the vaccine is a bit too late.
But I have a blood clotting issue and have had 5 blood clots in the past 5 years.
(I am now on Eliquis for life)
They ruled out the oxAZ Jab because of this underlying health issue and because I am 30 years old (Apparently a small minority Under 30's have had blood clot reactions to this vaccine)
I had the first Pfizer jab last week and I have been lucky enough to feel absolutely fine. I had a sore arm for a few days but that was it.
I have heard the second jab isn't as nice but will still take it, I am due that at the end of June.
It is remarkable to see the turn around in England and by how much the infection rates and death's have dropped!
Was he a bit below par afterwards?
Active cases in the Borough of Greenwich down into double figures.