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Post-match Thread: Charlton v Portsmouth | Tues 2nd Feb 2021
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Curbs for me1
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Really poor, Pompey were the better team let's have it right but some of those players are so poor. My biggest criticism of Lee is the tinkering, why drop Purrington and Millar? They looked good together, when we play our best football Aneke is on the pitch, why not start him? So many questions.
Ultimately though as said above we do have a team that is not as good as our last league 1 campaign, the question is, is the league that much harder or is Lee not getting the best out of the squad he has.
Terrible game to watch, only Stockley who started comes out with any credit. Two wins in 5 now I believe, we need to win this weekend, too many teams with games in hand.
Nothing else to add, just feel really flat right now, what a nothing game from us4 -
We are at the point that nobody can argue against the stats now of games, wins, losses, goals conceded.2
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Poor and like watching so many of our performances over the last couple of months.Midfield overrun, lost the battles, was second best, slow and predictable.Don’t get why millar on the bench, we need the pace as an outlet as our midfield not good enough to control games.Getting feed up of all the swapping week in week out, need a settled team. Players need a run of games to gel together.Mistakes keep happening costing but it’s down to not doing the basics.4
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I’m a Bowyer advocate. I think he has deserved some time but I can’t support that today.
It’s almost as though he has too many options. I am in no way qualified to give him advice but regardless of TS’s public support for him when he bought us I can’t see him accepting this for long and I get the feeling Ged Roddy is nobody’s fool.It could be that Bowyer has 4 or 5 games to save his job.2 -
Well played Stockley , Smith looks like he might have something , but the rest absolute garbage . Watson needs to be binned sharpish .0
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Absolute garbage.....no system, tactics or ideas. We just lump it long and hope for a second ball.1
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I’m not Bowyer out yet but I don’t understand switching to a diamond. Our recent improvement has come from playing 4-4-2. If he feels the odd game needs an extra CM then go with a form of 4-5-1. We don’t have the players for the diamond, when it works well it’s because we have two mobile strikers and at least a couple of midfielders comfortable drifting out wide and able to run at players. It makes no sense to play the formation with a traditional target man and poacher and the four midfielders we started with.
Positives were Stockley who looks a better and more natural in that target man role than Bogle and Aneke, and Millar who added much needed pace.
As for our defending I feel this is a team issue that won’t be solved just by a change or two at centre back.11 -
Season’s a write off and has been for a few weeks. Let’s hope this is the 2010/11 to our 2011/12.
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The positives of the night.
Curbs, Robbo and Minto were class. Trip down memory lane was great. God those memories.Stockley, looks class.The restThe match, god. Why oh why did he tinker again? Just play a winning team.I think coming out and saying we don’t need to sign a CB and then again going on to concede 3 is a school boy.Morgan started well and then after the crossbar and thinking he’d scored on his 21’st just lost it. The passing tonight was average at best.The defending I think we all know is laughable.It’s just bloody frustrating isn’t it !?9 - Sponsored links:
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The culture of a team and it's ultimate leadership comes from the manager. If the team consistently fails for the same reasons that is not down to individual errors, it is a failure of leadership.9
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Our defence is a shambles, and until we 'fix' that we are going nowhere, we need Akin back as a matter of urgency and I'd play Deji alongside him (until Innis is back)....Pratley is a liability as well he was bloody awful tonight.
What was Watson doing for their 3rd??
Not good, not good at all, despite the fact we should have had a stonewall penalty....it still was a piss poor performance.
Curbs just said they we're worthy winners and I cant argue with that, it looked like men against boys or indeed OAPS's!!!
Enough said.
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Our only plan all night seemed to be knock it up to stockley and play off the knock downs, the amount of aimless crosses put in by Matthews was laughable1
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I think we’ve kind of all assumed JFC is a decent footballer because he’s been our best midfielder.
I think it says a lot more about our squad than it does his performances. I find him very uninspiring for the most part.5 -
Deji was fucking immensecharlton_hero said:Stockley the only positive tonight and he's not even ours.5 -
On the plus side, that game would've ruined an entire weekend, hopefully this misery is just contained to tonight6
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I am fast losing patience with Bowyer but I do not think Jackson should escape from taking some of the blame. I am hearing he coaches the defense so he aint doing a very good job.1
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Bowyer just walking over to Minto now0
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Was grim and unenjoyable for most parts after decent spells early in the first half.
Want Bowyer to make it work and for it all to click but am really bemused by the lack of shoring up the central defence which has cost us so many points the past 2 months. Been playing bit part/ non natural CBs who have not commanded the position and we're starting every game with a huge vulnerability in that department.
Formation was dire and didn't work and don't know why we stuck with it.
That's my criticism of Bowyer and he really needs to play his best players in their best positions in a sensible formation- go 4 4 2 for a bit to keep it simple.
As for the players, some of them look like they don't know what they are doing and the amount of errors, mistakes and shoddy passing from seasoned pros is piss poor.
Bowyer needs to get his act together but so do a vast number of players.
I've written this season off at the outset but at the same time want to see something from Bowyer and his squad to give confidence for next term.
Most my faith has faltered so far under Bowyer's stewardship and really hope he can turn it around as that was grim in many ways and I cannot understand the lack of acknowledgement of defensive problems in our transfer dealings.
Hopefully it will click and Saturday's game up at Rochdale will tell a lot about how the rest of the season will go I reckon. Fingers crossed.4 -
So we are desperate to go on and a run and he put Millar on the bench What the actual fuck. we get a decent result and a clean sheet at MK and you fuck about with the team and the formation absolute pathetic. Absolutely sick of it now it's so bloody boring.13
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Here comes bowyer. This will be fun.
Cue "It's not my fault"1 -
Pissed off with that, only positive was Marquis didn’t score, would love to be a fly on TS’s wall where ever that might be.Gutless and clueless performance both team & management.0
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Really, really not convinced as some that Famewo and Innis will transform our season once they're back. We've got big issues across the pitch.15
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23 wins from the last 72 games1
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Yeah bit fishy him dribbling through the middle of our defence and planting one in the top corner....Scratchingvalleycat said:Anyone know when Portsmouth have lost in the league when being referred by Lee Swabey. He appears to have an interesting record with them.
Oh wait no hang on, Lee Bowyer could have been the referee tonight and we would have lost, stop looking for excuses away from the players and staff2 -
Charlton, Portsmouth and the ref all chipping in nicely to royally fuck me off.Charlton - absolutely shit. Littered with errors from start to finish in attack and defence. Awful.Portsmouth - wankers. You will not come across a team of bigger arseholes. The squealing etc was off the scale. Not sure if it’s the lack of crowd but football in this period has been so bad for this type of shit. Worked the ref over from minute 1.
Ref - wow, what a prick. To go from Madley to that clown is infuriating. He was bullied by the Portsmouth players and it started when he overturned the Pratley decision because of the protests. Him laughing with the Portsmouth players who were feigning injury at the end said it all. Missed a clear penalty for us as well.
Make no mistake, we deserved to lose - we were terrible. However, it’s so much more annoying when the man in black is a twat and the oppo behave like that.Defensive record is an absolute joke.22 -
absolutely - can anybody think of 1 good reason as to why he was dropped? and why play big man / small man up top and have no wide play?i could go on but can't be bothered - i'm done with bowyer - he's no managerFortune 82nd Minute said:Bowyer's decision to not start Millar tonight after an outstanding performance in the last game was mindblowingly stupid.
I just genuinely don't get it.2 -
That was hard to watch. The most braindead set of players I’ve ever seen. So many individual errors that led to that loss.Without the stupid errors from defenders and midfield it would have been a fairly even game. Pompey were the better side no doubt about it, it’s just a shame we gifted them the victory.Predictably, people will hound Bowyer out like a mob, but it’s the players that are making the errors on the pitch.4
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Absolutely sick of us playing and setting up to try and win in the second half! This rubs off on the players and it shows. PLAY YOUR BEST SIDE FROM THE START! All the chopping and changing is causing a lot of this.
We need a settled side and they will get used to who they're playing alongside. But what do I know starting to really piss me off Bowyer.
JUST.GO.BACK.TO.BASICS!!!
4-4-2 with wide players.. Everyone can see the narrow diamond doesn't work but Bowyer persists with it in the first half only to change it because we were behind as usual! Can't keep conceding 2's and 3's a game and expect results.
The two positives are Millar looks dangerous every time he runs with the ball and Stockley is a proper target man who wins everything. Other than that we look terrible and mid table mediocrity is what we are heading for.
We have no excuses with this squad either. Things are not working and haven't been working for a long time now.20
