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  • After reading his name this morning and seeing that its apparently close i was abit disappointed but the more i have sat and thought about it and seen what the mans about his past success and being a very likable character i actually think this could be a very shrewd and good appointment by thomas

    if you add JJ into the equation to continue his learning aswell as knowing the players already and having that rapport with us fans i think it could work
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Adkins Charlton as Cowley opted for Pompey, that's what i was told...
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Don't know any more
  • CAFCOlly
    CAFCOlly Posts: 523
    edited March 2021
    Initially felt seriously underwhelmed seeing Adkins linked. I still think that I'd take Jacko (with Curbs involved in some capacity) over Adkins.

    However, I am coming round to the idea and I think it's unfair to compare him to the likes of Slade.

    Still apprehensive, mind, that as good as those Southampton stats are, that Southampton team had Lambert, Lallana, Chamberlain and Fonte to name but a few.

    It looks like fans from his previous clubs seem to like him, and by all accounts he's a positive bloke and after a sustained period of doom and gloom both on and off the pitch, maybe we need someone like him at this moment in time.

    You never know, it might just work. Or it won't, in true Charlton style... 

    Either way, it's hard to get excited when reading the name Nigel Adkins. However, if Thomas decides to go with him then I'm more for it than I thought I would be when I first read his name.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,508
    edited March 2021
    Leuth said:
    Can't be bothered to read the whole thread but can I just say thank the fucking lord the Cowleys are going to Porstmouth
    Always wondered about "The Cowleys", are they really a duo in everything they do, ain't they allowed out on their own or something, it seems, you want Danny you have to have his brother.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Adkins didn't build that Southampton team, it was Pardew's team that won L1 really.

    You look at the players he had - Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lallana, Lambert, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jason Puncheon, Dean Hammond, that's a L1 cheat code!
    They then lost Ox, but brought in Jack Cork and Billy Sharp the next season.

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    Leuth said:
    Can't be bothered to read the whole thread but can I just say thank the fucking lord the Cowleys are going to Porstmouth

    CafcSCP said:
    I can see JJ until the end of the season.
    It will be interesting to compare how we each get on. I’ve always assumed that Charlton & Portsmouth are reasonably similar sized clubs in fan base and ambition and the new managers will be staring at broadly the same level with each team.  
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,976
    CAFCOlly said:
    Initially felt seriously underwhelmed seeing Adkins linked. I still think that I'd take Jacko (with Curbs involved in some capacity) over Adkins.

    However, I am coming round to the idea and I think it's unfair to compare him to the likes of Slade.

    Still apprehensive, mind, that as good as those Southampton stats are, that Southampton team had Lambert, Lallana, Chamberlain and Fonte to name but a few.

    It looks like fans from his previous clubs seem to like him, and by all accounts he's a positive bloke and after a sustained period of doom and gloom both on and off the pitch, maybe we need someone like him at this moment in time.

    You never know, it might just work. Or it won't, in true Charlton style... 

    Either way, it's hard to get excited when reading the name Nigel Adkins. However, if Thomas decides to go with him then I'm more for it than I thought I would be when I first read his name.
    Let the moaning begin..
  • th0rryy
    th0rryy Posts: 360
    Whilst his potential appointment may be met by trepidation from a number of Charlton fans, I think there are plenty of positives to an appointment of Nigel Adkins.
    1. Most importantly, he has a proven track record for doing exactly what we need to do right now - get out of League 1 and back into the Championship.
    2. He's done that with a couple of clubs, showing that this was not a complete fluke.
    3. He's got plenty of experience, all the way up to the PL.
    4. His management style suggests he likes his teams to play attacking football.
    5. He has brought multiple young players through in the past and is not afraid to bring in academy players.
    6. Plenty of clubs/fans still seem to speak well of him.
    Yes, he lacks a Charlton connection, but this would be a nice to have - TS strikes me as the kind of man that would value what a manager would offer over any anyone with a direct connection. We're all running off a big high from JJ getting us the win last night, but I think this has come a little too soon for him *IF* TS wants to hire ASAP.

    I'd be satisfied with getting Nigel Adkins, and even more so if JJ stays. Howe and Wilder are out of reach, in reality. Laudrup feels way too wildcard. I don't think Powell or Curbs are the right choice either, with both of them being out of this kind of job for so long.
  • As I’ve said elsewhere my preference would be JJ with Curbs as assistant but would have no problem at all with Adkins. What he did with Scunthorpe was nothing sort of miraculous. Promotion to the Championship twice, two Wembley outings, playing very decent football and developed a whole load of players as well (Billy Sharp for one). Frankly if he can do all that with Scunthorpe he’ll do a very good job with us. I’ve no problem with him as manager.
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Redhenry said:
    Adkins Charlton as Cowley opted for Pompey, that's what i was told...
    I'm not over bothered about missing out on the Cowleys, but would be slightly surprised/concerned if we actually wanted them, and they chose Pompey instead of us, especially as they are from London
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    edited March 2021
    Adkins didn't build that Southampton team, it was Pardew's team that won L1 really.

    You look at the players he had - Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lallana, Lambert, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jason Puncheon, Dean Hammond, that's a L1 cheat code!
    They then lost Ox, but brought in Jack Cork and Billy Sharp the next season.

    Adkins signed Lallana and Fonte, not sure about the rest. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,733
    I'd definitely prefer The Cowley's to Adkins. 
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    I for one trust TS thoughts and plans. If it turns out to be Adkins then so be it. I, like some others have said, think that TS has been looking around for a few weeks, based solely on how quick LB resigned and then got the City role less than 24 hours later, I think it has been known LB wanted to go for awhile. If Roddy has been speaking with TS and giving advice that's good, but I still think TS will make his own mind up. 
    We just have to trust and see what happens, but whoever gets the gig will get my support.
  • Chunes said:
    Adkins didn't build that Southampton team, it was Pardew's team that won L1 really.

    You look at the players he had - Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lallana, Lambert, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jason Puncheon, Dean Hammond, that's a L1 cheat code!
    They then lost Ox, but brought in Jack Cork and Billy Sharp the next season.

    Adkins signed Lallana and Fonte, not sure about the rest. 
    Lallana came through the Southampton youth setup
  • Redhenry said:
    Adkins Charlton as Cowley opted for Pompey, that's what i was told...
    A friend of mine who was the former Chairman of Portsmouth FC told me yesterday that the Portsmouth board were divided between Danny Cowley and Lee Bowyer for the Portsmouth job.

    I was told that it was 50/50 between the two candidates.
    Lee opted to go to Birmingham so Danny Cowley gets the Portsmouth job.
    Also Paul Cook took the vacant Ipswich job last week. 

    Meaning that three of the clubs trying to get promotion have all changed managers in the past week.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    edited March 2021
    Chunes said:
    Adkins didn't build that Southampton team, it was Pardew's team that won L1 really.

    You look at the players he had - Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lallana, Lambert, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jason Puncheon, Dean Hammond, that's a L1 cheat code!
    They then lost Ox, but brought in Jack Cork and Billy Sharp the next season.

    Adkins signed Lallana and Fonte, not sure about the rest. 
    Lallana came through the Southampton youth setup
    Oh right, I misread that he signed him to a four-year contract, my mistake
  • hudson-son-son
    hudson-son-son Posts: 2,645
    edited March 2021
    Adkins is just a bit Partridge isn't he? Can't say I'm massively thrilled by the prospect. I can get the logic of a steady old hand to just get us out of this division before we can really rebuild the club in the Championship (but wouldn't even really pick him for that), but that seems to contradict what Sandgaard said in terms of having someone in the project for the long haul, which I can't really see him doing.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Adkins didn't build that Southampton team, it was Pardew's team that won L1 really.

    You look at the players he had - Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lallana, Lambert, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jason Puncheon, Dean Hammond, that's a L1 cheat code!
    They then lost Ox, but brought in Jack Cork and Billy Sharp the next season.

    Adkins signed Lallana and Fonte, not sure about the rest. 
    Lallana came through the Southampton youth setup
    Oh right, I misread that he signed him to a four-year contract, my mistake
    Pardew was given a lot of money as he came in with new ownership, but still managed to get sacked for being Alan Pardew, and Adkins sorted it and got them promoted 
  • Redhenry said:
    Adkins Charlton as Cowley opted for Pompey, that's what i was told...
    A friend of mine who was the former Chairman of Portsmouth FC told me yesterday that the Portsmouth board were divided between Danny Cowley and Lee Bowyer for the Portsmouth job.

    I was told that it was 50/50 between the two candidates.
    Lee opted to go to Birmingham so Danny Cowley gets the Portsmouth job.
    Also Paul Cook took the vacant Ipswich job last week. 

    Meaning that three of the clubs trying to get promotion have all changed managers in the past week.
    Not to mention Doncaster who have had to replace Darren Moore and Sunderland who have brought in Lee Johnson

    Its only Hull, Peterborough and Lincoln who havent replaced their Managers which is ridiculous as its usually the strugglers that are trigger happy
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  • hudson-son-son
    hudson-son-son Posts: 2,645
    Redhenry said:
    Adkins Charlton as Cowley opted for Pompey, that's what i was told...
    A friend of mine who was the former Chairman of Portsmouth FC told me yesterday that the Portsmouth board were divided between Danny Cowley and Lee Bowyer for the Portsmouth job.

    You are friends with Milan Mandaric?
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    I'm reserving judgment on the new manager until they actually get appointed - things can still change or fall through at the last minute, or any of the parties involved have a last minute change of heart or some other spanner thrown in the collective works.

    That said, I think whoever Sandgaard chooses should get a chance to actually prove themselves before we decide how whelmed to be. TS' decision making so far seems to be good more often than not so his judgement is the one that matters right now.

    Someone like Adkins wouldn't necessarily give me a "WOW" moment but a steady Eddie with experience is not the end of the world.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    edited March 2021
    Rothko said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Adkins didn't build that Southampton team, it was Pardew's team that won L1 really.

    You look at the players he had - Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lallana, Lambert, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jason Puncheon, Dean Hammond, that's a L1 cheat code!
    They then lost Ox, but brought in Jack Cork and Billy Sharp the next season.

    Adkins signed Lallana and Fonte, not sure about the rest. 
    Lallana came through the Southampton youth setup
    Oh right, I misread that he signed him to a four-year contract, my mistake
    Pardew was given a lot of money as he came in with new ownership, but still managed to get sacked for being Alan Pardew, and Adkins sorted it and got them promoted 
    What, he sorted not being Pardew?  Always good, noble work.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    thenewbie said:
    I'm reserving judgment on the new manager until they actually get appointed - things can still change or fall through at the last minute, or any of the parties involved have a last minute change of heart or some other spanner thrown in the collective works.

    That said, I think whoever Sandgaard chooses should get a chance to actually prove themselves before we decide how whelmed to be. TS' decision making so far seems to be good more often than not so his judgement is the one that matters right now.

    Someone like Adkins wouldn't necessarily give me a "WOW" moment but a steady Eddie with experience is not the end of the world.
    anyone but Neil Harris ....
  • Adkins is just a bit Partridge isn't he? Can't say I'm massively thrilled by the prospect. I can get the logic of a steady old hand to just get us out of this division before we can really rebuild the club in the Championship (but wouldn't even really pick him for that), but that seems to contradict what Sandgaard said in terms of having someone in the project for the long haul, which I can't really see him doing.
    He lives in a Travel Tavern?
    Or likes a sausage in a cup of beans like a savoury 99?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited March 2021
    If it’s true that Thomas is flying over to talk to potential managers I’d be surprised if a deal has already been done. You’d think he might want to speak to a handful rather than just one who’s already got the job? 
    Although RedHenry normally has good intel of course. 
    Have nothing against Adkins per se, he seems like a ‘safety first’ choice. Perhaps there’s nothing wrong with that. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    edited March 2021
    thenewbie said:
    I'm reserving judgment on the new manager until they actually get appointed - things can still change or fall through at the last minute, or any of the parties involved have a last minute change of heart or some other spanner thrown in the collective works.
    Ridiculous :smile:
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited March 2021
    Chunes said:
    Adkins didn't build that Southampton team, it was Pardew's team that won L1 really.

    You look at the players he had - Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lallana, Lambert, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jason Puncheon, Dean Hammond, that's a L1 cheat code!
    They then lost Ox, but brought in Jack Cork and Billy Sharp the next season.

    Adkins signed Lallana and Fonte, not sure about the rest. 
    Lallana came through the Southampton youth setup
    The Bournemouth branch? :smile:
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,508
    edited March 2021
    JamesSeed said:
    If it’s true that Thomas is flying over to talk to potential managers I’d be surprised if a deal has already been done. You’d think he might want to speak to a handful rather than just one who’s already got the job? 
    Although RedHenry normally has good intel of course. 
    Have nothing against Adkins per se, he just seems like a ‘safety first’ choice. 
    Could probably have already got things sorted via Zoom with the candidates and Ged Roddy, so may be coming over to rubber stamp rather than actually interview, especially if he wants it sorted before the weekend as he said.
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