So who / what do you want next?

soapboxsam

Another option could be John Terry with Wayne Bridge as his assistant.

A Bridge too far ?

Elthamaddick

Wilder would be the ultimate statement of intent

cafctom

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

Todds_right_hook

BigDiddy said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Jackson 9/4
curbs 5/1
cowley 10/1
powell 10/1
Jacket 12/1
wilder12/1
harris 14/1
appleton 16/1
poyet 20/1o
pardew 20/1

Suprised that euell isn’t in there

Diego Poyet? 

No silly! Gus!

Diego is 22/1

ElliotCAFC

Callumcafc said:

ElliotCAFC said:

Callumcafc said:

ElliotCAFC said:

Todds_right_hook said:

i really don't get the dislike of the Cowleys.  They have a win rate of over 50% across 650 games!!

They play absolutely awful football, which is why they got sacked from Huddersfield.

At the end of the day, you can play awful football and win or you can play pretty football and lose. If those are the only two options, I know which I’d pick. Norwich tried to play pretty football in the Premier League last season and it didn’t do them any good.

We’re in League One, we’re not going to be playing total football any time soon no matter who comes in.

Norwich seem to be doing just fine from where I’m sitting. Do you think Brentford will change their methodology upon promotion?  

This is an appointment for the long term, not a quick fix promotion. It’s not a choice of pretty football and losing or bad football and winning. 

Knowing how Sandgaard likes football to be played it seems very unlikely that he’ll keen on the Cowley’s.

I made my point badly. What I was trying to get at is that fans generally forget what the quality of football is like if you’re winning. Same goes the other way, you can play the nicest football on planet earth but if you can’t stop losing the fans will quickly be on your back.

Think the whole thing is a bit of a myth to be honest, apart from a few extreme examples.

I know what you’re saying mate, we weren’t exactly Barcelona under Chris Powell’s title winning season and that was still some of the most enjoyable football I’ve ever watched. 

My point is solely to do with the Cowley’s. They found a methodology that worked in the lower leagues and I’m not saying it wouldn’t be successful in League One (they’d be drooling at the thought of Stockley up top) - it’s when you get past League One where things start to break down.

As a long term appointment I don’t think it fits the mould, especially the way Sandgaard wants his team to play. 

ShootersHillGuru

Scratchingvalleycat said:

A manager who buys into the ethos of the club, would understand why Tracy Leaburn put her neck on the line because she cared, why the fans threw pigs and undertook a funeral march against Duchatelet. That is part of my criteria for a manager.

Any employee can take the money and do what they always do, either successfully or not, but as a club we need someone who will buy into the CAFC ethos embodied by Curbs, Powell and yes, Bowyer. There is no way that the Cowley Brothers would do that any more than Karl Robinson did.

Those that have played for the club and seen us through the  bad times should have a head start in the loyalty stakes otherwise we will become a management revolving door like  other clubs. We are not other clubs. I believe that TS understands that and was part of the reason he bought the club. That should sway his decision.

When employing people I have always looked for the commitment to the company that takes people the extra mile and makes the company successful.

That’s all fluff. What is most important is that the manager gets results. I really couldn’t give a toss if he’s never heard about our history. Whoever it is will be gone at some point anyway. We need a winner not a sentimental loser. 

North Lower Neil

cafctom said:

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

You're not the only one.

hudson-son-son

cafctom said:

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

Nope it's silly, but the more people are mentioning him, the more I'm talking myself into it being possible, even though I'm fully aware it's daft.

ShootersHillGuru

North Lower Neil said:

cafctom said:

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

You're not the only one.

The blokes out of work. Of course it’s possible. 

cafctom

ShootersHillGuru said:

Scratchingvalleycat said:

A manager who buys into the ethos of the club, would understand why Tracy Leaburn put her neck on the line because she cared, why the fans threw pigs and undertook a funeral march against Duchatelet. That is part of my criteria for a manager.

Any employee can take the money and do what they always do, either successfully or not, but as a club we need someone who will buy into the CAFC ethos embodied by Curbs, Powell and yes, Bowyer. There is no way that the Cowley Brothers would do that any more than Karl Robinson did.

Those that have played for the club and seen us through the  bad times should have a head start in the loyalty stakes otherwise we will become a management revolving door like  other clubs. We are not other clubs. I believe that TS understands that and was part of the reason he bought the club. That should sway his decision.

When employing people I have always looked for the commitment to the company that takes people the extra mile and makes the company successful.

That’s all fluff. What is most important is that the manager gets results. I really couldn’t give a toss if he’s never heard about our history. Whoever it is will be gone at some point anyway. We need a winner not a sentimental loser. 

People said the same about Chris Powell when he joined, and Lee Bowyer when he joined......

eaststandmike

cafctom said:

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

Why, if money is the only stumbling block TS has plenty to throw around. Had Wilder stayed at Sheff Utd (they will come good) he would have been in the Championship so it is only dropping down one league.

Sell him a vision, control on transfers, good owner. What's not to like. 

orpingtonRED

North Lower Neil said:

cafctom said:

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

You're not the only one.

No way a Premier League manager will drop back down to our level.

Elthamaddick

ShootersHillGuru said:

North Lower Neil said:

cafctom said:

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

You're not the only one.

The blokes out of work. Of course it’s possible. 

exactly, he ain't getting a prem job anytime soon.....

ShootersHillGuru

cafctom said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Scratchingvalleycat said:

A manager who buys into the ethos of the club, would understand why Tracy Leaburn put her neck on the line because she cared, why the fans threw pigs and undertook a funeral march against Duchatelet. That is part of my criteria for a manager.

Any employee can take the money and do what they always do, either successfully or not, but as a club we need someone who will buy into the CAFC ethos embodied by Curbs, Powell and yes, Bowyer. There is no way that the Cowley Brothers would do that any more than Karl Robinson did.

Those that have played for the club and seen us through the  bad times should have a head start in the loyalty stakes otherwise we will become a management revolving door like  other clubs. We are not other clubs. I believe that TS understands that and was part of the reason he bought the club. That should sway his decision.

When employing people I have always looked for the commitment to the company that takes people the extra mile and makes the company successful.

That’s all fluff. What is most important is that the manager gets results. I really couldn’t give a toss if he’s never heard about our history. Whoever it is will be gone at some point anyway. We need a winner not a sentimental loser. 

People said the same about Chris Powell when he joined, and Lee Bowyer when he joined......

And where has that led us ? Ultimately?

Callumcafc

ShootersHillGuru said:

North Lower Neil said:

cafctom said:

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

You're not the only one.

The blokes out of work. Of course it’s possible. 

I don’t think he’s hard up for cash by any means. Probably got a nice payout from the Blades and can sit pretty until Newcastle need a new manager in October/November.

CharltontillidieCOYR

Well.....He came close to joining before has spoken highly of the club so why would it not be a possibility now 

a club with ambition who he might see as a project i wldnt rule it out

cafctom

ShootersHillGuru said:

cafctom said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Scratchingvalleycat said:

A manager who buys into the ethos of the club, would understand why Tracy Leaburn put her neck on the line because she cared, why the fans threw pigs and undertook a funeral march against Duchatelet. That is part of my criteria for a manager.

Any employee can take the money and do what they always do, either successfully or not, but as a club we need someone who will buy into the CAFC ethos embodied by Curbs, Powell and yes, Bowyer. There is no way that the Cowley Brothers would do that any more than Karl Robinson did.

Those that have played for the club and seen us through the  bad times should have a head start in the loyalty stakes otherwise we will become a management revolving door like  other clubs. We are not other clubs. I believe that TS understands that and was part of the reason he bought the club. That should sway his decision.

When employing people I have always looked for the commitment to the company that takes people the extra mile and makes the company successful.

That’s all fluff. What is most important is that the manager gets results. I really couldn’t give a toss if he’s never heard about our history. Whoever it is will be gone at some point anyway. We need a winner not a sentimental loser. 

People said the same about Chris Powell when he joined, and Lee Bowyer when he joined......

And where has that led us ? Ultimately?

Two promotion seasons, that were later undone largely by poor ownership. 

hudson-son-son

Sheffield Utd were owned by a Saudi Prince and I don't think Wilder was happy with how much they were spending though, surely they are much richer than Sandgaard is?

I get the clip about him talking about the Charlton job, but surely the point is how much his stock has risen since then, he's not still coming off the Northampton job.

IR94

cafctom said:

I want a Charlton connection, as I think it’s a powerful way of instigating a positive mentality around the club and with the fans. 

Its worked in a big way before, and I think League One is weak enough that it could be enough to work for us again.

I’m not particularly interested in having some L1 manager Merry-go-round which changes every year or so, whether they’ve achieved promotion before or not.

The most enjoyment (and success) we’ve had is when there’s a Charlton man in charge, and it just so happens that our new caretaker manager is about as Charlton as they come.

Imagine the feeling next season when we all return to The Valley, and there is someone at the helm we can all properly identify with. 

My vote is for Johnnie Jackson.

This is arguably our most important appointment in many years, we can't cut corners by doing it on the cheap and appointing a novice like Jackson

Simonsen

North Lower Neil said:

cafctom said:

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

You're not the only one.

To be fair, the discussion is about who people would like to see. Not who will we end up with. 

Depends how much money TS has to throw at it. Kevin Keegan went to Fulham because they had a big budget and something similar might attract a "Name"

Or TS might prefer to go with someone cheaper and perhaps a little more hungry (like Roland did with LB). 

Chris Wilder might fancy getting straight back in. There is a chance (probably small in his case) that a spell out of the game means you get forgotten about. Do jobs like the Charlton job crop up that often? On the face of it....good owner, good ground, good crowds, should be a good budget, good youth products etc etc. 

Croydon

We need to get promoted, first and foremost. I love Euell and Jacko, but I don't think either of them have what it takes to do that.

Valley11

ShootersHillGuru said:

North Lower Neil said:

cafctom said:

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

You're not the only one.

The blokes out of work. Of course it’s possible. 

Agree. Look how hard it is to get back into the Prem as a British (and let’s face it, uncompromising, no frills) coach. 

So he’s then looking at Championship teams. At this time of the season? Hmmm.
It’s a hard sell for Thomas but if he’s promising financial clout in terms of salary and budget then certainly not impossible. 

ShootersHillGuru

Simonsen said:

North Lower Neil said:

cafctom said:

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

You're not the only one.

To be fair, the discussion is about how people would like to see. Not who will we end up with. 

Depends how much money TS has to throw at it. Kevin Keegan went to Fulham because they had a big budget and something similar might attract a "Name"

Or TS might prefer to go with someone cheaper and perhaps a little more hungry (like Roland did with LB). 

Roland appointed Bowyer because it was cost neutral. Nothing else.

BigRedEvil

I think TS will want a someone in which signals his intent for where he wants the club to be. 

It won't be Wilder though, he's linked with Celtic, he won't be dropping back to L1

Callumcafc

“Hi Chris, it’s Ged Roddy calling...”

”Ged who?”

”Ged Roddy. I’m wondering if you’d be interested in the vacancy at Charlt...”

Dazzler21

cafcsinger

Can't believe Chris Powell is a serious suggestion, got a lot of time for Powell but he left us 7 years ago and hasn't done anything in his managerial career since to suggest he would be a success here. 

North Lower Neil

Simonsen said:

North Lower Neil said:

cafctom said:

I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 

You're not the only one.

To be fair, the discussion is about who people would like to see. Not who will we end up with. 

Depends how much money TS has to throw at it. Kevin Keegan went to Fulham because they had a big budget and something similar might attract a "Name"

Or TS might prefer to go with someone cheaper and perhaps a little more hungry (like Roland did with LB). 

In that case I'd like Klopp.

Surely we'd be better discussing realistic options?

eaststandmike

cafcsinger said:

Can't believe Chris Powell is a serious suggestion, got a lot of time for Powell but he left us 7 years ago and hasn't done anything in his managerial career since to suggest he would be a success here. 

Bang on 100%

Dazzler21

Dazzler21 said:

It's Wilder for me of the current top 5