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Nigel Adkins - confirmed as permanent Tranmere manager (p52)

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  • 995632
    995632 Posts: 319
    el-pietro said:
    el-pietro said:
    felix_31 said:
    People who are underwhelmed - might I ask why? 
    His recent track record isn't all that impressive. He did a good job at Scunthorpe and took Southampton from League One to the Premier League which was incredibly impressive but at the same time have been very well run since for the most part with a never ending stream of managers. IN fact they finished between 6th and 8th each of the 4 full seaoss after he left.
    He didn't pull up trees at any of Reading, Sheffield United or Hull in his short spells at each club. I'm sure there are perfectly good reasons for these but I haven't been following any of those clubs closely so on the surface theres not a huge amount to get excited about in terms of results.
    On the plus side, he has two promotions from League One under his belt, he seems like a genuinely nice guy and has had his teams playing decent football. I was also very unhappy with the Bowyer appointment at the time, though I quickly changed my mind on that.
    If there is any reason I have this wrong I'd love to be corrected.
    three. Also at Hull he kept them up when they looked doomed and the following season took them to a 13th place finish without any real backing.  
    Thanks, didn't realise he had taken Scunthorpe up twice. So we can look at his previous clubs and say he did a good to great job with Scunthorpe and Southampton, a good job with Hull, especially considering the circumstances, an ok/mediocre job at Reading (7th in the Championship isn't bad) and a poor job at Sheffield United?

    Sheffield United they were in with a shot of the playoffs until a loss to Coventry on the penultimate weekend of the season. Last game loss to Scunthorpe meant they dropped to 11th.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,752
    I'm happy with this - I think it's good for all parties. We get someone who knows how to get out of this division which is all we have to worry about for now. Plus we get someone that likes to play attractive football and understands the importance of the youth team set-up. 

    JJ gets to learn from an experienced manager which can only help with his development and make him a better candidate for the top job in the future.

    For all of those that are underwhelmed - I don't know what you're expecting!? We're a League One club, we've spent more time in League One than any other division in recent years. 
    Dépends on your definition of recent.

    I certainly don't consider us a League One / 3rd division club historically and potentially, which seems to be what you mean.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    Thomas doesn't muck around, does he.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    Really glad the majority on here see this as a positive appointment. TS obviously planning for the future which makes a change for us and we should happily embrace that change. I just hope he doesnt get stick if we dont make the playoffs, imo the damage has already been done this season which is a shame but hopefully onwards and upwards 
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Adkins has ten matches before the summer to see what players he wants too keep what ever division we end up in.
  • RickAddick
    RickAddick Posts: 1,198
    Read the press stuff from Richard and Benjy.
    All looks very positive on many fronts going forwards.
    A positive vibe that hopefully will bring results.
    Words are easy, its making them happen that is hard.
    Will we leave the third tier in the summer?  We shall see.
    Good luck Nigel and may you bring success to the club, staff and players!
    And lets hope the fans get behind him...
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,752
    Must admit to initially feeling underwhelmed, but after listening to his interview with Olly I feel more positive. Welcome Nigel
    Does listening to Olly count as research?
    I hope that you used headphones if in the library.
  • RickAddick
    RickAddick Posts: 1,198
    Dazzler21 said:
    Sandgaard admitted he's been looking at managers a while. He'd have been silly not to given our season. 
    Should always be doing that anyway. If you're having a decent season then someone might come  in for your manager, or any amount of things might happen. It's good to see that Sandgaard recognises that
    Read an article in the Saturday papers a while ago about Southampton FC. 
    The owner said that he always had a replacement lined up for each position, in case change was needed
    And with half the team seemingly departing northwards every summer, I could see why. 
    Excellent strategy and planning by Mr S.
    Things are looking up!
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  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,865
    You can all relax.

    The name is derived from the church Latin Nigellus. This Latin word would at first sight seem to derive from the classical Latin nigellus (meaning dark or somewhat black), which is derived from niger, meaning "black". However, this is now considered an example of an incorrect etymology created by French-speaking clerics, who knew Latin as well, to translate the Norman first name Neel in the Latin written documents. The Latin word nigellus gave birth to Old French neel (modern nielle), meaning “niello, black enamel” and it explains the confusion, because the clerics believed it was the same etymology as the first name Neel, spelled the same way.[4]

    The Old Norman first name Neel (modern surname Néel) derives from the Norse Njáll. The Norse Njáll, in turn, is derived from the Gaelic Niall.[5][6]


    Welcome, Neil Adkins.

     

    Your two-and-a-half year contract tells me that (as predicted in this column) Sandgaard is attempting to realise his EuroCharlton dream in two parts.  Neil's brief is to get us out of League 1 and establish us as a Championship side within those 2+ years.

    At that point, the contract is renewed and the push for the Premier League takes place, or a new (betterer) man is appointed.


  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Cheerio Pratley and Watson don’t let the door hit you on the way out
    They are so slow they will probably get hit by it twice. 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,288
    Cheerio Pratley and Watson don’t let the door hit you on the way out
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,752
    He won the play-offs beating MK and Millwall.

    Sounds like heaven.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    NM18 said:
    Completely UNDERWHELMED. Nice guys aren't winners.
    13 Of Gordon Ramseys Most Intense Insults
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    I love this quote by TS.

    "He is upbeat and has a winning personality. You can't just put that on a spreadsheet."

    You can't just put that on a spreadsheet, fecking brilliant. I'm definitely nicking that one.
    More lies from the regime...

    You told him!
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,883
    Good luck Nigel and glad to see that JJ is staying on. COYR
  • I'm happy with this - I think it's good for all parties. We get someone who knows how to get out of this division which is all we have to worry about for now. Plus we get someone that likes to play attractive football and understands the importance of the youth team set-up. 

    JJ gets to learn from an experienced manager which can only help with his development and make him a better candidate for the top job in the future.

    For all of those that are underwhelmed - I don't know what you're expecting!? We're a League One club, we've spent more time in League One than any other division in recent years. 
    Dépends on your definition of recent.

    I certainly don't consider us a League One / 3rd division club historically and potentially, which seems to be what you mean.

    We're definitely not a League One club...that is how I'd describe Gillingham, Walsall and so on. We've spent 77% of our time as a League club in the upper two divisions, and 33 years in the top flight (compared with 21 for Crystal Palace). Think this looks a sound appointment, though a little of me wonders why Adkins has been out of the game since 2019.
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  • sholland
    sholland Posts: 484
    Many saying he is too nice, in that earlier post with the link to the interview looking back on his time at Southampton he said they had a really important match away at Brighton (withdean).

    He said he needed to read them the riot act at half time which was unusual for him, he got a reaction and they came from behind to win 2-1. So he has that in him if it is needed. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Disappointed that Adkins isn’t pictured with a guitar, to be honest

    Thomas and Johnnie on guitar while Nige raps his poetic lyrics.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I love this quote by TS.

    "He is upbeat and has a winning personality. You can't just put that on a spreadsheet."

    You can't just put that on a spreadsheet, fecking brilliant. I'm definitely nicking that one.
    More lies from the regime...

    At least put it in a SWOT diagram.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Defences win championships goals win matches.

    Love it
  • Had Adkins been hired during the Roland Regime, Addicks that have trouble bending over to tie their own shoes would have been doing back-flips.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    A good point by Reg. Indeed that was an argument from the "Bowyer outers" that by doing it now rather than in the summer, it would give the new person a headstart for next season. It made a lot of sense to either sack Bowyer now OR to definitely keep him on for next season and let him plan for it, not wait until the summer and then think about his position.

    A complication at the moment is that we still have an outside of promotion this season, so we'll have to plan for two very different scenarios next season, whereas when Powell took over we fell away meaning he could concentrate on the following season's recruitment.
  • WHAddick
    WHAddick Posts: 1,149
    I'm happy with this - I think it's good for all parties. We get someone who knows how to get out of this division which is all we have to worry about for now. Plus we get someone that likes to play attractive football and understands the importance of the youth team set-up. 

    JJ gets to learn from an experienced manager which can only help with his development and make him a better candidate for the top job in the future.

    For all of those that are underwhelmed - I don't know what you're expecting!? We're a League One club, we've spent more time in League One than any other division in recent years. 
    Dépends on your definition of recent.

    I certainly don't consider us a League One / 3rd division club historically and potentially, which seems to be what you mean.

    We're definitely not a League One club...that is how I'd describe Gillingham, Walsall and so on. We've spent 77% of our time as a League club in the upper two divisions, and 33 years in the top flight (compared with 21 for Crystal Palace). Think this looks a sound appointment, though a little of me wonders why Adkins has been out of the game since 2019.
    He has said has turned down several job offers as they weren’t right for him.

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    Beginning to think that Thomas is incapable of doing anything wrong.I guarantee that keeping JJ was a part of the deal with 
    Adkins,he obviously saw the respect the players had for JJ and how popular he is.
    Or maybe it was because Adkin's assistant at his previous 4 clubs joined Port Vale last week?
    https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/andy-crosby-vale-sheffield-united-5106853
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    I’m delighted Jacko is staying . 

    I’ll reserve judgement on Adkins .  His success was a long time ago. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Beginning to think that Thomas is incapable of doing anything wrong.I guarantee that keeping JJ was a part of the deal with 
    Adkins,he obviously saw the respect the players had for JJ and how popular he is.
    Or maybe it was because Adkin's assistant at his previous 4 clubs joined Port Vale last week?
    https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/andy-crosby-vale-sheffield-united-5106853
    Only until the end of the season so maybe he will be added to the coaching staff in the summer. Does tend to lend weight to the story that Adkins appointment happened quickly because I’m sure if he’d known say a week ago then Crosby wouldn’t have joined Port Vale.