I think the important thing is that we don't judge him on our next result, or indeed the rest of this season. Things will change, and change takes time. If we struggle into the playoffs this year then great, but if not he gets a real transfer window to adjust (something which Bowyer never had). I think it may take Adkins the full 2.5 year tenure for us to see the full fruit of his labour's. It's no magic show with instant results.
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Welcome, Neil Adkins.
Your two-and-a-half year contract tells me that (as predicted in this column) Sandgaard is attempting to realise his EuroCharlton dream in two parts. Neil's brief is to get us out of League 1 and establish us as a Championship side within those 2+ years.
At that point, the contract is renewed and the push for the Premier League takes place, or a new (betterer) man is appointed.
The 'Allez Allez Allez' song need not be ditched. Au contraire, we can now sing it correctly.
'...now we've got Lee Bowyer' was poor grammar as 'got' is superfluous. 'We have' is sufficient.
However, as 'Nigel Adkins' has an extra syllable, '...we have Nigel Adkins' doesn't scan. Therefore, we contract 'we have' to 'we've', resulting in '...now we've Nigel Adkins'... the Reds are going up...Allez, Allez, Allez...'
If the name 'Nigel' is deemed too offensive to sing, may I suggest a respectful alternative...
'...now we've Mister Adkins, the Reds are going up.'
I have to be honest. I don’t trust such outward positivity in an obviously broken world. The man is hiding something and it will get old very quickly. I’m not ready to buy what Adkins is selling. #TeamJJ
I have to be honest. I don’t trust such outward positivity in an obviously broken world. The man is hiding something and it will get old very quickly. I’m not ready to buy what Adkins is selling. #TeamJJ
The best part about Nigel for me was the fact he wants players smiling, I think that will reflect on the pitch, players play better when they are enjoying themselves.
The 'Allez Allez Allez' song need not be ditched. Au contraire, we can now sing it correctly.
'...now we've got Lee Bowyer' was poor grammar as 'got' is superfluous. 'We have' is sufficient.
However, as 'Nigel Adkins' has an extra syllable, '...we have Nigel Adkins' doesn't scan. Therefore, we contract 'we have' to 'we've', resulting in '...now we've Nigel Adkins'... the Reds are going up...Allez, Allez, Allez...'
If the name 'Nigel' is deemed too offensive to sing, may I suggest a respectful alternative...
'...now we've Mister Adkins, the Reds are going up.'
Howard works better.
For those of us who remember the war, I prefer Tommy Atkins.
Adkins did brilliantly for Southampton TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO - he has not worked for two years and failed at his last three clubs.
This is just so gutting, I am sure he is a lovely bloke and all that but come on people if Sunderland appointed him after sacking Parky we’d have thought them mad.
Obviously he knows Ged Roddy from working together at Reading and that’s why he got the job, and that is just not good enough I am afraid.
Feels like a real kick in the teeth and confirms what others have said about tension between Bowyer and Roddy with the former fearing a replacement was being lined up.
I would love to be wrong but this looks like an awful appointment, please show me a manager that has failed at his last three clubs and then suddenly finds success after two years on his arse. You won’t be able to.
Really quite angry about this, feels like a complete piss take to be honest.
If they sack Adkins it will be the most ludicrous sacking in Premier League history, utterly bonkers.
Ormiston_Addick
Nice one mate, great to see you have plenty of time on your hands.
As I said, Adkins did a BRILLIANT job at Southampton, I saw them play a lot and they were fantastic and he was very badly treated there - although it turned out to be the right decision.
However, since then he has failed at three clubs, bombed out after a season and a half at Reading, Sheffield United and Hull with a league winning percentage of 36%, 40% and 33% respectively - compared to 55% At Southampton.
I am sure his eloquence and enthusiasm are very attractive but there is a lot of accumulated football knowledge on this forum and I think only one poster out of hundreds even mentioned Adkins name when Bowyers replacement was discussed.
Adkins left Hull nearly two years ago and in that time there must have been 40-50 sackings from the 90 plus clubs from the Premier League to League Two and yet not one of those clubs looked about and thought that Nigel Adkins was the man for the job - tells you something if you’re bright enough to see it.
I would love to be proved wrong and I am sure Nigel is a top bloke and interviews very well indeed - and he did brilliantly at Scunthorpe and Saints but that was a long, long time ago.
Football moves on and nobody in football gives a shit about Chris Powell winning League One with us back in 2011/12 - incidentally that was the last time Adkins won a promotion too - all they remember now is him failing at Huddersfield and Southend and the same goes for Adkins which is why he has been out of work for two years.
I’d love to get on the happy bus but this appointment feels like a bad move to me.
Nigel Adkins said in the interview that he doesn't really know anybody here. He mentioned a few names, but not very much. It is going to be quite a challenge, which he seems to approach with intellect, commitment and enthusiasm, but I wonder if a moment will come when he will feel an emotional attachment, get the vibe as it were, our vibe. I suppose it's now about everybody making new memories together. I hope Nigel doesn't feel too lonely too long.
Nigel Adkins said in the interview that he doesn't really know anybody here. He mentioned a few names, but not very much. It is going to be quite a challenge, which he seems to approach with intellect, commitment and enthusiasm, but I wonder if a moment will come when he will feel an emotional attachment, get the vibe as it were, our vibe. I suppose it's now about everybody making new memories together. I hope Nigel doesn't feel too lonely too long.
Didn't you know he was best mates with Ged Roddy from there days at Reading together?
"Nice guys aren't winners" said every arsehole ever.
"Nice guys aren't winners"
Cringe material.
A winner is someone that has the ability to openly, honestly and confidently express themself. Ability to wear your heart on your sleeve.
Liars, actors, parasites. They are lifes true losers.
Claudio Raneri won a premier league and he is quite easily one of the nicest guys in football.
I know Adkins has won things but cant hurt to have another example.
Rainieri 'won' Premier League with 100% Pearson team and even his assistant manager. Ranieri just a caretaker boss and then when he got to put his mark on the team it went wrong
Some people are so broken from previous regimes, that unless Johnny Jackson rode in on horseback, with Chris Powell and Curbs floating above him, they would be pissed off. Then they'd probably still slate lack of ambition, because Pep didn't hold up scarfy, while the club arranged for Pamela Anderson to deliver your season ticket, made of solid gold.
Must be exhausting to want to be pissed off all the time.
king addick said: Rainieri 'won' Premier League with 100% Pearson team and even his assistant manager. Ranieri just a caretaker boss and then when he got to put his mark on the team it went wrong.
"Nice guys aren't winners" said every arsehole ever.
"Nice guys aren't winners"
Cringe material.
A winner is someone that has the ability to openly, honestly and confidently express themself. Ability to wear your heart on your sleeve.
Liars, actors, parasites. They are lifes true losers.
Claudio Raneri won a premier league and he is quite easily one of the nicest guys in football.
I know Adkins has won things but cant hurt to have another example.
Rainieri 'won' Premier League with 100% Pearson team and even his assistant manager. Ranieri just a caretaker boss and then when he got to put his mark on the team it went wrong
Fucking hell. One of the worst football takes I've ever read 😂
Adkins did brilliantly for Southampton TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO - he has not worked for two years and failed at his last three clubs.
This is just so gutting, I am sure he is a lovely bloke and all that but come on people if Sunderland appointed him after sacking Parky we’d have thought them mad.
Obviously he knows Ged Roddy from working together at Reading and that’s why he got the job, and that is just not good enough I am afraid.
Feels like a real kick in the teeth and confirms what others have said about tension between Bowyer and Roddy with the former fearing a replacement was being lined up.
I would love to be wrong but this looks like an awful appointment, please show me a manager that has failed at his last three clubs and then suddenly finds success after two years on his arse. You won’t be able to.
Really quite angry about this, feels like a complete piss take to be honest.
If they sack Adkins it will be the most ludicrous sacking in Premier League history, utterly bonkers.
Ormiston_Addick
Nice one mate, great to see you have plenty of time on your hands.
As I said, Adkins did a BRILLIANT job at Southampton, I saw them play a lot and they were fantastic and he was very badly treated there - although it turned out to be the right decision.
However, since then he has failed at three clubs, bombed out after a season and a half at Reading, Sheffield United and Hull with a league winning percentage of 36%, 40% and 33% respectively - compared to 55% At Southampton.
I am sure his eloquence and enthusiasm are very attractive but there is a lot of accumulated football knowledge on this forum and I think only one poster out of hundreds even mentioned Adkins name when Bowyers replacement was discussed.
Adkins left Hull nearly two years ago and in that time there must have been 40-50 sackings from the 90 plus clubs from the Premier League to League Two and yet not one of those clubs looked about and thought that Nigel Adkins was the man for the job - tells you something if you’re bright enough to see it.
I would love to be proved wrong and I am sure Nigel is a top bloke and interviews very well indeed - and he did brilliantly at Scunthorpe and Saints but that was a long, long time ago.
Football moves on and nobody in football gives a shit about Chris Powell winning League One with us back in 2011/12 - incidentally that was the last time Adkins won a promotion too - all they remember now is him failing at Huddersfield and Southend and the same goes for Adkins which is why he has been out of work for two years.
I’d love to get on the happy bus but this appointment feels like a bad move to me.
HE DIDN'T FAIL AT HULL, FOR FUCK'S SAKE
Adkins had a win rate at Hull of 33%, Won 26 Drew 21 Lost 31.
OK, even if you give him credit for keeping them up and accept the club was in big trouble that’s a very average record over nearly two seasons.
If we are appointing him on the back of keeping Hull in the Championship then that’s not inspiring me very much.
Like I said, Nigel has been out the game for two seasons now and his record since leaving Saints is the reason why.
I want him to succeed but this appointment is very much gambling he can bring back his magic of 2010-12 - I don’t much like the odds.
The 'Allez Allez Allez' song need not be ditched. Au contraire, we can now sing it correctly.
'...now we've got Lee Bowyer' was poor grammar as 'got' is superfluous. 'We have' is sufficient.
However, as 'Nigel Adkins' has an extra syllable, '...we have Nigel Adkins' doesn't scan. Therefore, we contract 'we have' to 'we've', resulting in '...now we've Nigel Adkins'... the Reds are going up...Allez, Allez, Allez...'
If the name 'Nigel' is deemed too offensive to sing, may I suggest a respectful alternative...
'...now we've Mister Adkins, the Reds are going up.'
Howard works better.
For those of us who remember the war, our average age was 19
"Nice guys aren't winners" said every arsehole ever.
"Nice guys aren't winners"
Cringe material.
A winner is someone that has the ability to openly, honestly and confidently express themself. Ability to wear your heart on your sleeve.
Liars, actors, parasites. They are lifes true losers.
Claudio Raneri won a premier league and he is quite easily one of the nicest guys in football.
I know Adkins has won things but cant hurt to have another example.
Rainieri 'won' Premier League with 100% Pearson team and even his assistant manager. Ranieri just a caretaker boss and then when he got to put his mark on the team it went wrong
Well perhaps this "nice guy" is about to get promoted with a 100% Bowyer team and even his assistant manager.
Adkins did brilliantly for Southampton TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO - he has not worked for two years and failed at his last three clubs.
This is just so gutting, I am sure he is a lovely bloke and all that but come on people if Sunderland appointed him after sacking Parky we’d have thought them mad.
Obviously he knows Ged Roddy from working together at Reading and that’s why he got the job, and that is just not good enough I am afraid.
Feels like a real kick in the teeth and confirms what others have said about tension between Bowyer and Roddy with the former fearing a replacement was being lined up.
I would love to be wrong but this looks like an awful appointment, please show me a manager that has failed at his last three clubs and then suddenly finds success after two years on his arse. You won’t be able to.
Really quite angry about this, feels like a complete piss take to be honest.
Is that the Roddy who worked and Reading in 2018 and the Adkins that left in 2014? Or a different pair?
Yep - fair enough - that’s my mistake.
But sorry, there has to be a link somewhere because someone two years out of the game and three failures in a row behind them doesn’t just get appointed 48 hours after the last manager walks.
This didn’t just happen this week.
The way him and Olly kept saying this has been a whirlwind week and happened quickly, makes it sound like not as pre-planned as you think.
Yeah it sounded like he was on Sandgaard's list but maybe only contacted this week.
I'm not so sure. Olly says about it being a whirlwind week, Adkins agrees it's been a whirlwind but doesn't actually say when he spoke to Sandgaard. I still suspect initial contact was made earlier than this week. Probably only finalised once Bow resigned.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Bows had been saying to TS for a few weeks that he was on the verge of resigning, as no matter what he tried he couldn’t get the performances he expected - I imagine TS would have said, don’t worry, it takes time to get where we want - but having picked up on Bows ‘vibe’ and also his Valley Pass post match interviews, TS decided he needed to have a back up if Bows did resign
It's what any decent owner would do, even in the good times do your research as you never know what's around the corner. Not the exciting appointment that some were looking for but good solid experience at this level with three promotions plus managing in the top two divisions. I think he's a great appointment & possibly the best we could have hoped for. Far too early for JJ imo but great to have him around the players who all seem to love him. Would still like a defensive coach to come in. Step by step TS is building
Could that be Steve Brown
Certainly talks a lot of sense & as an ex Premier defender we could do worse. Certainly something has to happen.
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Win-win.
I know Adkins has won things but cant hurt to have another example.
Errr..... Chris Powell THE nicest man in football.
He mentioned a few names, but not very much.
It is going to be quite a challenge, which he seems to approach with intellect, commitment and enthusiasm, but I wonder if a moment will come when he will feel an emotional attachment, get the vibe as it were, our vibe.
I suppose it's now about everybody making new memories together.
I hope Nigel doesn't feel too lonely too long.
Must be exhausting to want to be pissed off all the time.
But Pearson didnt win it did he? Ranieri took them to the next level based on how you view things.
OK, even if you give him credit for keeping them up and accept the club was in big trouble that’s a very average record over nearly two seasons.
If we are appointing him on the back of keeping Hull in the Championship then that’s not inspiring me very much.
Like I said, Nigel has been out the game for two seasons now and his record since leaving Saints is the reason why.
I want him to succeed but this appointment is very much gambling he can bring back his magic of 2010-12 - I don’t much like the odds.
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Well perhaps this "nice guy" is about to get promoted with a 100% Bowyer team and even his assistant manager.