Chuks has left, will be on the released list when it comes out. His choice but the door is still open.
6/10 for the source
Late last week we started sniffing around a center midfielder who played for a relegated club, from league 1, who is out of contract. This comes from a source at a league 2 club that wanted him as their "main signing" and was between them and his current club. We have clouded the water some what. I could make an educated guess who it is and why we are now intrested.
8/10 for the source 2/10 for it amounting to anything.
Care to speculate? Purely because i have no idea who we'd want from any of the 4 clubs that were relegated apart from Baah and he's a winger.
Ferguson doesn't fit the criteria that Adkins stated he wanted.
I though he was looking for more of a young, fit team.
If you ignore the goal keeper, one or rwo players 29/30/31 doesn't make you an old team. Three, four or even more players over 31 does.
Some stages this season we regularly had 4 or 5 players in their 30s playing. I would guess you want the core of the team to be 24-28 with 1 or 2 outliers at either end?
DMAC at Posh has slapped a £700k price tag on Mo Eisa. No idea how this is broken down.
That's insane. Not my money of course but would be a bit disappointed if we spent that much on him, he's worth 300k tops in this climate and the poor season he has just had. I can't imagine any side in league 1 paying that
Posh not known for selling cheap. Agree £700k seems high. I’m sure it will reduce but might mean that any deal is closer to deadline than is ideal. Not really what we would be looking at ?
Ferguson doesn't fit the criteria that Adkins stated he wanted.
I thought he was looking for more of a young, fit team.
29 is not exactly ancient in football terms, especially for players who train well and look after themselves. Plus he provides cover in several positions which would be a strong point in his favour, especially as left sided players are harder to find.
DMAC also put a rather hefty price on Maddison before he left for nothing.
Eisa still has at least one year left on his contract, possibly two. I agree that 700k is a lot, but they paid well over £1m for him and will be looking to recoup a chunk of that.
He had an injury early in the season and never really hit any form after that.
No it’s definitely not one to set the pulse racing but I could easily understand why we might be interested. Ferguson covers both left back and left side of midfield and by all accounts has a good delivery. Not pacey but never has been. 30 isn’t old and he has played consistently at a higher standard than league one. Not found any serious injuries in his past so a two year deal might suit both parties. Certainly we need to reduce the average age of the team down but with Pearce, Watson and Pratley unlikely all to remain or feature much then I can see this one being on the cards.
DMAC also put a rather hefty price on Maddison before he left for nothing.
Eisa still has at least one year left on his contract, possibly two. I agree that 700k is a lot, but they paid well over £1m for him and will be looking to recoup a chunk of that.
He had an injury early in the season and never really hit any form after that.
His contract runs to 2023.
They're never getting 700k for him, i can't see any championship clubs being interested and not many league one clubs post-Covid are going to be spending that on a player.
Peterborough might get lucky and someone with new money like Ipswich bid for him, but surely not 700k. I'd guess he'll go for something like 350-400k with perhaps some add ons based on promotion.
DMAC also put a rather hefty price on Maddison before he left for nothing.
Eisa still has at least one year left on his contract, possibly two. I agree that 700k is a lot, but they paid well over £1m for him and will be looking to recoup a chunk of that.
He had an injury early in the season and never really hit any form after that.
His contract runs to 2023.
They're never getting 700k for him, i can't see any championship clubs being interested and not many league one clubs post-Covid are going to be spending that on a player.
Peterborough might get lucky and someone with new money like Ipswich bid for him, but surely not 700k. I'd guess he'll go for something like 350-400k with perhaps some add ons based on promotion.
Ipswich are now owned by a pension fund, I don’t think they will be splashing the cash.
DMAC also put a rather hefty price on Maddison before he left for nothing.
Eisa still has at least one year left on his contract, possibly two. I agree that 700k is a lot, but they paid well over £1m for him and will be looking to recoup a chunk of that.
He had an injury early in the season and never really hit any form after that.
His contract runs to 2023.
They're never getting 700k for him, i can't see any championship clubs being interested and not many league one clubs post-Covid are going to be spending that on a player.
Peterborough might get lucky and someone with new money like Ipswich bid for him, but surely not 700k. I'd guess he'll go for something like 350-400k with perhaps some add ons based on promotion.
Ipswich are now owned by a pension fund, I don’t think they will be splashing the cash.
I very much doubt a pension fund invested long term in a sustainable League One club!
Ipswich will be amongst the biggest spenders next season.
DMAC also put a rather hefty price on Maddison before he left for nothing.
Eisa still has at least one year left on his contract, possibly two. I agree that 700k is a lot, but they paid well over £1m for him and will be looking to recoup a chunk of that.
He had an injury early in the season and never really hit any form after that.
His contract runs to 2023.
They're never getting 700k for him, i can't see any championship clubs being interested and not many league one clubs post-Covid are going to be spending that on a player.
Peterborough might get lucky and someone with new money like Ipswich bid for him, but surely not 700k. I'd guess he'll go for something like 350-400k with perhaps some add ons based on promotion.
Ipswich are now owned by a pension fund, I don’t think they will be splashing the cash.
I very much doubt a pension fund invested long term in a sustainable League One club!
Ipswich will be amongst the biggest spenders next season.
I think the point is that they’ll lose money in league one and lose money in The Championship. How a pension fund squares that circle is beyond me.
DMAC also put a rather hefty price on Maddison before he left for nothing.
Eisa still has at least one year left on his contract, possibly two. I agree that 700k is a lot, but they paid well over £1m for him and will be looking to recoup a chunk of that.
He had an injury early in the season and never really hit any form after that.
His contract runs to 2023.
They're never getting 700k for him, i can't see any championship clubs being interested and not many league one clubs post-Covid are going to be spending that on a player.
Peterborough might get lucky and someone with new money like Ipswich bid for him, but surely not 700k. I'd guess he'll go for something like 350-400k with perhaps some add ons based on promotion.
Ipswich are now owned by a pension fund, I don’t think they will be splashing the cash.
I very much doubt a pension fund invested long term in a sustainable League One club!
Ipswich will be amongst the biggest spenders next season.
I think the point is that they’ll lose money in league one and lose money in The Championship. How a pension fund squares that circle is beyond me.
That's a totally different argument, SHG - I too have serious misgivings and would not be too pleased if the buyers managed any of my investments.
Posh not known for selling cheap. Agree £700k seems high. I’m sure it will reduce but might mean that any deal is closer to deadline than is ideal. Not really what we would be looking at ?
They buy high and hope to sell even higher, that’s their business model. A mate who’s a Posh fan is hoping they sell Clarke-Harris and get a sell on fee for Toney for a £10m Champo transfer fund. Eisa they will lose money on, but with Toney they made a killing.
I’d like to think we were aiming higher than Gillingham and Portsmouth players who are out of contract.
Same. You don't bring in NA and then go fishing around for bargains/free transfers in the same league. Such a cost cutting approach would have seen Jackson/Euell promoted as Manager.
Why ever not? You may get another Lyle Taylor (hopefully the 'plays until the end of the season' version, of course). Why spend money where you don't have to? Saving where you can gives you more to spend where you have to.
DMAC also put a rather hefty price on Maddison before he left for nothing.
Eisa still has at least one year left on his contract, possibly two. I agree that 700k is a lot, but they paid well over £1m for him and will be looking to recoup a chunk of that.
He had an injury early in the season and never really hit any form after that.
His contract runs to 2023.
They're never getting 700k for him, i can't see any championship clubs being interested and not many league one clubs post-Covid are going to be spending that on a player.
Peterborough might get lucky and someone with new money like Ipswich bid for him, but surely not 700k. I'd guess he'll go for something like 350-400k with perhaps some add ons based on promotion.
Ipswich are now owned by a pension fund, I don’t think they will be splashing the cash.
I very much doubt a pension fund invested long term in a sustainable League One club!
Ipswich will be amongst the biggest spenders next season.
I think the point is that they’ll lose money in league one and lose money in The Championship. How a pension fund squares that circle is beyond me.
That's a totally different argument, SHG - I too have serious misgivings and would not be too pleased if the buyers managed any of my investments.
I find the Ipswich takeover baffling. It will be really interesting what they do this summer, whether they run a right ship or really go for it
The meetings at the club took place today I was just thinking how tough it must be to go into work and told your being released. I'm fortunate in that i have never faced that myself. But with a league one footballer it must be worrying as they may not get another club at the moment
I got fired (without good reason really) from a summer job temping at a vacuum cleaner factory when I was 18. I hated the job and was just doing it for some spending money before I went to University and it actually meant I got a much better job that I returned to each summer while at Uni. It was over 20 years ago. It still pisses me off when I think about it and it was horrible to be fired even though for me it worked out to be a good thing.
I got fired by The Bugle Horn. I'd shown up the manager by adding things up correctly when he said I hadn't so he accused me of dipping in the till. Still, he paid me for my last day without me having to work.
The meetings at the club took place today I was just thinking how tough it must be to go into work and told your being released. I'm fortunate in that i have never faced that myself. But with a league one footballer it must be worrying as they may not get another club at the moment
I got fired (without good reason really) from a summer job temping at a vacuum cleaner factory when I was 18. I hated the job and was just doing it for some spending money before I went to University and it actually meant I got a much better job that I returned to each summer while at Uni. It was over 20 years ago. It still pisses me off when I think about it and it was horrible to be fired even though for me it worked out to be a good thing.
Did the job suck?
In more ways than one, yes. I spent 8 hours a day for 6 months taking a plastic bucket that was part of the vaccum cleaner and then putting one plastic hose and two different tools in the bucket, then putting my bucket on top of another bucket and sending it down the production line. I honestly don't how I didn't go insane. My dad was worried if I took a year out before I went to Uni I'd get used to having money in my pocket and wouldn't go - a job like that, though, really focuses your mind to get some better qualifications and better job.
Some of those are impressive, some have the "I'll stand off you and give you time and space to shoot" style of defending we came to know and love this season, but he sure knows where the goal is.
If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.
I’d like to think we were aiming higher than Gillingham and Portsmouth players who are out of contract.
Same. You don't bring in NA and then go fishing around for bargains/free transfers in the same league. Such a cost cutting approach would have seen Jackson/Euell promoted as Manager.
Why ever not? You may get another Lyle Taylor (hopefully the 'plays until the end of the season' version, of course). Why spend money where you don't have to? Saving where you can gives you more to spend where you have to.
I probably should have been clearer with my point. Fishing for half crocked freebies and unfit loanees are a thing of the past.
If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.
Hadn't he scored 13 of those 14 by mid October though?
If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.
Hadn't he scored 13 of those 14 by mid October though?
This shows 10 by mid October, and a decent record until early December. During that time Maddison was also scoring regularly.
After that he stopped scoring but Posh themselves weren’t getting many results and has a few heavy defeats.
He then scored one more in February and didn’t play again (injured?).
Guess it comes down to whether he’s a good player who needs games to get going again or they’re right to sell him as he just went through a purple patch? Chris Dickson at Gillingham is a good example of that at this level.
For what it's worth, if Thomas does want even upper champ within the next 5 years then we should be aiming for better or at least more potential than eisa
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Some stages this season we regularly had 4 or 5 players in their 30s playing. I would guess you want the core of the team to be 24-28 with 1 or 2 outliers at either end?
Eisa still has at least one year left on his contract, possibly two. I agree that 700k is a lot, but they paid well over £1m for him and will be looking to recoup a chunk of that.
He had an injury early in the season and never really hit any form after that.
They're never getting 700k for him, i can't see any championship clubs being interested and not many league one clubs post-Covid are going to be spending that on a player.
Peterborough might get lucky and someone with new money like Ipswich bid for him, but surely not 700k. I'd guess he'll go for something like 350-400k with perhaps some add ons based on promotion.
Ipswich will be amongst the biggest spenders next season.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.
https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=68830&season_id=152
This shows 10 by mid October, and a decent record until early December. During that time Maddison was also scoring regularly.
After that he stopped scoring but Posh themselves weren’t getting many results and has a few heavy defeats.
He then scored one more in February and didn’t play again (injured?).
Guess it comes down to whether he’s a good player who needs games to get going again or they’re right to sell him as he just went through a purple patch? Chris Dickson at Gillingham is a good example of that at this level.