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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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If Posh think the latter, then presumably the fee should be low...Scoham said:
Fair point, I hadn’t looked at that.Cafc43v3r said:
Hadn't he scored 13 of those 14 by mid October though?Scoham said:
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.DubaiCAFC said:If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.
https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=68830&season_id=152
This shows 10 by mid October, and a decent record until early December. During that time Maddison was also scoring regularly.
After that he stopped scoring but Posh themselves weren’t getting many results and has a few heavy defeats.
He then scored one more in February and didn’t play again (injured?).
Guess it comes down to whether he’s a good player who needs games to get going again or they’re right to sell him as he just went through a purple patch? Chris Dickson at Gillingham is a good example of that at this level.0 -
We need to get out of League One first. Attracting someone much better than Eisa will be very difficult. Even now it might. Getting a squad together that gets out of this division and has the potential to step up in numbers for The Championship will be even harder. Let’s take our hurdles when we get to them, with an eye for potential too.LTKapal said:For what it's worth, if Thomas does want even upper champ within the next 5 years then we should be aiming for better or at least more potential than eisa2 -
I think its open to interpretationElthamaddick said:
Saw that and I’d guess he’s going…time run out…Addicktion said:Chuks has posted a video on his Instagram story with a few clips of the Valley and him in a charlton top with a ⏳ . I'm gonna guess he's staying based on that?
Could be
Time is running on it now..ie in negotiations
Time is running out ie they need to get on with it as he is thinking about going elsewhere
Time has run out. He's off!
Note sure you can be sure of any of them cann you?1 -
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I think really your buying, or not, based on a season in league 2 4 years ago.Scoham said:
Fair point, I hadn’t looked at that.Cafc43v3r said:
Hadn't he scored 13 of those 14 by mid October though?Scoham said:
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.DubaiCAFC said:If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.
https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=68830&season_id=152
This shows 10 by mid October, and a decent record until early December. During that time Maddison was also scoring regularly.
After that he stopped scoring but Posh themselves weren’t getting many results and has a few heavy defeats.
He then scored one more in February and didn’t play again (injured?).
Guess it comes down to whether he’s a good player who needs games to get going again or they’re right to sell him as he just went through a purple patch? Chris Dickson at Gillingham is a good example of that at this level.0 -
I agree. Something like 300k up front, 100k if promoted, 100k if he scores 15+goals. If you sign him and that happens you've got yourself a pretty decent deal.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
His contract runs to 2023.PopIcon said:DMAC also put a rather hefty price on Maddison before he left for nothing.
Eisa still has at least one year left on his contract, possibly two. I agree that 700k is a lot, but they paid well over £1m for him and will be looking to recoup a chunk of that.
He had an injury early in the season and never really hit any form after that.
They're never getting 700k for him, i can't see any championship clubs being interested and not many league one clubs post-Covid are going to be spending that on a player.
Peterborough might get lucky and someone with new money like Ipswich bid for him, but surely not 700k. I'd guess he'll go for something like 350-400k with perhaps some add ons based on promotion.0 -
You would have to think there is some kind of tax break somewhere. Without an angle like that, it would surely be reckless for a pension fund to invest in a League One Football club.killerandflash said:
I find the Ipswich takeover baffling. It will be really interesting what they do this summer, whether they run a right ship or really go for itbobmunro said:
That's a totally different argument, SHG - I too have serious misgivings and would not be too pleased if the buyers managed any of my investments.ShootersHillGuru said:
I think the point is that they’ll lose money in league one and lose money in The Championship. How a pension fund squares that circle is beyond me.bobmunro said:
I very much doubt a pension fund invested long term in a sustainable League One club!arny23394 said:
Ipswich are now owned by a pension fund, I don’t think they will be splashing the cash.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
His contract runs to 2023.PopIcon said:DMAC also put a rather hefty price on Maddison before he left for nothing.
Eisa still has at least one year left on his contract, possibly two. I agree that 700k is a lot, but they paid well over £1m for him and will be looking to recoup a chunk of that.
He had an injury early in the season and never really hit any form after that.
They're never getting 700k for him, i can't see any championship clubs being interested and not many league one clubs post-Covid are going to be spending that on a player.
Peterborough might get lucky and someone with new money like Ipswich bid for him, but surely not 700k. I'd guess he'll go for something like 350-400k with perhaps some add ons based on promotion.
Ipswich will be amongst the biggest spenders next season.0 -
My Millwall mate's opinion of Ferguson.
Great attitude, well-liked, he’ll run his socks off, give 100% for the cause, left-footer crosses well, bit if an old-school winger and if you play him in that role he’ll do well... but it’s kind of all he has, he lacks depth to his game and can become invisible. He was mostly a squad player who never quite made the grade, but delivered some magic moments and scored some great goals. He could do well in L1 but he’s lost pace in recent seasons... sorry to see him go tbh but he’d never shift Malone from that left side and was clearly not in Rowett’s plans...
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With a blank team sheet how much would we have to spend to get a team that would get us up question mark ..key board will not allow one. would 20 million buy a winning team8
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Ah the old Dale Stephens move. A classic. I expect him to sign for Sunderland shortly.MattF said:13 - Sponsored links:
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I would say £5 million in league one would give you the highest of chances but of course it’s who is doing the buyingStockholm_CAFC said:With a blank team sheet how much would we have to spend to get a team that would get us up question mark ..key board will not allow one. would 20 million buy a winning team1 -
If you cant get promoted from League One with £20m, you'd be in serious trouble as a ManagerStockholm_CAFC said:With a blank team sheet how much would we have to spend to get a team that would get us up question mark ..key board will not allow one. would 20 million buy a winning team10 -
I too got fired from a hoover factory but I didn’t care because the job sucked. Sorry wrong thread.AddicksAddict said:
I got fired by The Bugle Horn. I'd shown up the manager by adding things up correctly when he said I hadn't so he accused me of dipping in the till. Still, he paid me for my last day without me having to work.Exiled_Addick said:AndyG said:The meetings at the club took place today I was just thinking how tough it must be to go into work and told your being released. I'm fortunate in that i have never faced that myself. But with a league one footballer it must be worrying as they may not get another club at the moment
I got fired (without good reason really) from a summer job temping at a vacuum cleaner factory when I was 18. I hated the job and was just doing it for some spending money before I went to University and it actually meant I got a much better job that I returned to each summer while at Uni. It was over 20 years ago. It still pisses me off when I think about it and it was horrible to be fired even though for me it worked out to be a good thing.3 -
That's the funny thing with money, it's not always an indicator. Sheffield, Reading and Derby have shown that spending doesnt equate success. I think it's the overall environment rather than the managers tactics/motivation. Lucky for us I think we're cultivating a fantastic environment with the Adkins/Sandgaard partnership so lets hope we can attract some real talent. I know if I was a footballer in this League, I'd consider us the most desirable club being London based with these two at the helm.ForeverAddickted said:
If you cant get promoted from League One with £20m, you'd be in serious trouble as a ManagerStockholm_CAFC said:With a blank team sheet how much would we have to spend to get a team that would get us up question mark ..key board will not allow one. would 20 million buy a winning team1 -
But that’s because you are a Charlton supporter. Most players will listen to their agent and go where the money is. Of course that’s open to exceptions but I’d say that’s the main driver and who can really blame them.Vfrf said:
That's the funny thing with money, it's not always an indicator. Sheffield, Reading and Derby have shown that spending doesnt equate success. I think it's the overall environment rather than the managers tactics/motivation. Lucky for us I think we're cultivating a fantastic environment with the Adkins/Sandgaard partnership so lets hope we can attract some real talent. I know if I was a footballer in this League, I'd consider us the most desirable club being London based with these two at the helm.ForeverAddickted said:
If you cant get promoted from League One with £20m, you'd be in serious trouble as a ManagerStockholm_CAFC said:With a blank team sheet how much would we have to spend to get a team that would get us up question mark ..key board will not allow one. would 20 million buy a winning team0 -
Yep I know, he'll probably get a Championship loan but he's been very good this year.golfaddick said:
Simms was on loan from Everton.......covered_end_junior said:More suggestions than rumours but a few players off the top of my head that have impressed me this year. Hoping Lincoln stay down so we can raid them in the window.Simms - Blackpool
Lowery- Crewe
Wintle - Crewe
Dale - Crewe
James - Doncaster
Graham - Gillingham
Dempsey - Gillingham
Ennis - Plymouth (loan)
Downes (Ipswich)
Montsma (Lincoln)
Grant (Lincoln)
Edun (Lincoln)
McGrandles (Lincoln)
Pigott (Wimbledon)
Fraser (MK Dons)
Charles (Accrington)
Bishop (Accrington)
Twine (Swindon)
Harness (Portsmouth)
Tucker (Gillingham)
CJ Hamilton (Blackpool)0 -
The tricky thing with a big budget is getting the right sort of players to join a 3rd division side, especially if they're dropping down from the Championship.
Are they doing it because they see the club as an ambitious one who will get promoted straight away and then continue hopefully to the PL, and want to be part of this success OR are they seeing it as a chance of an easy payday in a lesser league?2 -
A WISH, NOT A RUMOUR ..
IF we could get an out of contract Millwall player, Murray Wallace is the one to go for .. football playing defender who's been used recently at left back .. few seasons back I used to see him at centre back for Scunthorpe .. wherever he plays in defence he is classy and consistent .. he's 6' 2" and 28 years old .. go Get him Adkins !!!!
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No, it isn't. I wasn't necessarily considering money as a factor, assuming the pay is equal I'd consider us the most attractive in League One with the exception of MAYBE Sheffield, if you don't mind moving up north. If another team wants to pay an extra £X per month which makes a difference to you, then yes. But for the players we want I wouldn't expect us to be out-bid by other teams in this league, again with the exception of Sheffield.ShootersHillGuru said:
But that’s because you are a Charlton supporter. Most players will listen to their agent and go where the money is. Of course that’s open to exceptions but I’d say that’s the main driver and who can really blame them.Vfrf said:
That's the funny thing with money, it's not always an indicator. Sheffield, Reading and Derby have shown that spending doesnt equate success. I think it's the overall environment rather than the managers tactics/motivation. Lucky for us I think we're cultivating a fantastic environment with the Adkins/Sandgaard partnership so lets hope we can attract some real talent. I know if I was a footballer in this League, I'd consider us the most desirable club being London based with these two at the helm.ForeverAddickted said:
If you cant get promoted from League One with £20m, you'd be in serious trouble as a ManagerStockholm_CAFC said:With a blank team sheet how much would we have to spend to get a team that would get us up question mark ..key board will not allow one. would 20 million buy a winning team0 -
Sunderland will be the biggest spenders I feel (if they don't go up obviously).Vfrf said:
No, it isn't. I wasn't necessarily considering money as a factor, assuming the pay is equal I'd consider us the most attractive in League One with the exception of MAYBE Sheffield, if you don't mind moving up north. If another team wants to pay an extra £X per month which makes a difference to you, then yes. But for the players we want I wouldn't expect us to be out-bid by other teams in this league, again with the exception of Sheffield.ShootersHillGuru said:
But that’s because you are a Charlton supporter. Most players will listen to their agent and go where the money is. Of course that’s open to exceptions but I’d say that’s the main driver and who can really blame them.Vfrf said:
That's the funny thing with money, it's not always an indicator. Sheffield, Reading and Derby have shown that spending doesnt equate success. I think it's the overall environment rather than the managers tactics/motivation. Lucky for us I think we're cultivating a fantastic environment with the Adkins/Sandgaard partnership so lets hope we can attract some real talent. I know if I was a footballer in this League, I'd consider us the most desirable club being London based with these two at the helm.ForeverAddickted said:
If you cant get promoted from League One with £20m, you'd be in serious trouble as a ManagerStockholm_CAFC said:With a blank team sheet how much would we have to spend to get a team that would get us up question mark ..key board will not allow one. would 20 million buy a winning team1 - Sponsored links:
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Sunderland spent 4m on Will Grigg and went nowhere, so as you say it depends on how it's spent.ShootersHillGuru said:
I would say £5 million in league one would give you the highest of chances but of course it’s who is doing the buyingStockholm_CAFC said:With a blank team sheet how much would we have to spend to get a team that would get us up question mark ..key board will not allow one. would 20 million buy a winning team
If a league one club bought 5 players for 1m each that would surely give them a strong chance, but if you blow it all on 1-2 players who then don't perform or get injured then you're fucked.5 -
He will be a poor signing. Bonne type of player..Scoham said:
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.DubaiCAFC said:If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.2 -
Let's buy him then and flog him for £2m.8
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Agree. If Posh are getting rid then it’s clear he’s not up to Champ standard. We want to be recruiting for top end league one who can cut it the level up.DubaiCAFC said:
He will be a poor signing. Bonne type of player..Scoham said:
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.DubaiCAFC said:If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.2 -
I got fired from a mirror factory. It was a job I could never see myself doing.Acab said:
I too got fired from a hoover factory but I didn’t care because the job sucked. Sorry wrong thread.AddicksAddict said:
I got fired by The Bugle Horn. I'd shown up the manager by adding things up correctly when he said I hadn't so he accused me of dipping in the till. Still, he paid me for my last day without me having to work.Exiled_Addick said:AndyG said:The meetings at the club took place today I was just thinking how tough it must be to go into work and told your being released. I'm fortunate in that i have never faced that myself. But with a league one footballer it must be worrying as they may not get another club at the moment
I got fired (without good reason really) from a summer job temping at a vacuum cleaner factory when I was 18. I hated the job and was just doing it for some spending money before I went to University and it actually meant I got a much better job that I returned to each summer while at Uni. It was over 20 years ago. It still pisses me off when I think about it and it was horrible to be fired even though for me it worked out to be a good thing.10 -
Maybe that's why Bristol City let him go to Posh, in the first place?Valley11 said:
Agree. If Posh are getting rid then it’s clear he’s not up to Champ standard. We want to be recruiting for top end league one who can cut it the level up.DubaiCAFC said:
He will be a poor signing. Bonne type of player..Scoham said:
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.DubaiCAFC said:If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.
But, in any case, just because a player doesn't fit into a system at one club, doesn't mean he has no chance find a club where it all clicks into place for him.
Just needs to be right player, right club, right time.
It happens all the time. Player flops at one club, success at another.
Anyway, sometimes the important thing is to sign a player to be part of a winning promotion team.
And then let him go.
With Chris Powell's record breaking title team, some key players were signed - and then let go during the next Championship season or loaned out:
the skipper Matt Taylor, midfield powerhouse Danny Holland, leading goalscorer Bradley Wright-Phillips, for example.
Horses for courses. They were signed to do a job. They did it. And were moved on.
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But not every signing will be able to meet that requirement. Or do you think Thomas is willing to go all in? Some signings will be to get us up, others will be to get us up and grow.Valley11 said:
Agree. If Posh are getting rid then it’s clear he’s not up to Champ standard. We want to be recruiting for top end league one who can cut it the level up.DubaiCAFC said:
He will be a poor signing. Bonne type of player..Scoham said:
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.DubaiCAFC said:If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.0 -
That's the problem with Mo. He is "all in price" with massive question mark over the last 3 years.Dazzler21 said:
But not every signing will be able to meet that requirement. Or do you think Thomas is willing to go all in?Valley11 said:
Agree. If Posh are getting rid then it’s clear he’s not up to Champ standard. We want to be recruiting for top end league one who can cut it the level up.DubaiCAFC said:
He will be a poor signing. Bonne type of player..Scoham said:
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.DubaiCAFC said:If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.3 -
Not 3 years, he got 1 in 2 last season. I think 750k is a bit steep but I don't feel 400k ish is all in price, it's really not that much at all.Cafc43v3r said:
That's the problem with Mo. He is "all in price" with massive question mark over the last 3 years.Dazzler21 said:
But not every signing will be able to meet that requirement. Or do you think Thomas is willing to go all in?Valley11 said:
Agree. If Posh are getting rid then it’s clear he’s not up to Champ standard. We want to be recruiting for top end league one who can cut it the level up.DubaiCAFC said:
He will be a poor signing. Bonne type of player..Scoham said:
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.DubaiCAFC said:If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.0 -
In any case, you need to sign players who can do the job right now in League One.Dazzler21 said:
But not every signing will be able to meet that requirement. Or do you think Thomas is willing to go all in?Valley11 said:
Agree. If Posh are getting rid then it’s clear he’s not up to Champ standard. We want to be recruiting for top end league one who can cut it the level up.DubaiCAFC said:
He will be a poor signing. Bonne type of player..Scoham said:
Why? He lost his place this season but in 19/20 he scored 14 league goals in 27 starts and 2 sub appearances.DubaiCAFC said:If we sign Mo, I think we will be in for a long hard season next year.
Not saying I want him to sign but the main reason his goalscoring has dropped off appears to be because he lost his place to Clarke-Harris who is perhaps more suited to playing as a lone striker in their 3-4-3 set up.
And have already proven their ability at this level.
Sure you need a bit of quality - and you may find that in a Championship player stepping down a level.
But why are they coming ....... surely players want to stay and play at their highest level? So why haven't they got a Championship club?
They can be a disappointment too despite their 'quality' ...... fitness and attitude, might be suspect.
Chris Powell got it right 10 years ago. He signed generally the 'best from League One' ..... players who already knew the League and had the hunger to better themselves.
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