I've been trying my hardest but darned if I can remember any 'player' worse to don the great shirt? Was Sandgaard sky high on his Tens machine when he signed him?
Not sure TS can take the credit mate when we signed him LB said we had been after him for ages I actually think the Kirk signing was one of the ones that made TS think someone is having his pants down
We bought Kirk 12 months before TS bought the club.
After her partner was called a f****** terrorist by a Charlton fan on twitter during the game
He was awful and will possibly be the last time he’s seen in a Charlton shirt but keep it constructive when making comments on an individual. That line has been crossed by making an ignorant comment like that.
surely this (and Chuks) should be a big neon warning sign for our future recruiters - don't be handing out 3, 4, 5 year deals to players - I don't care how good you think they are going to be - 2 years with an option at most.
Then we complain when players such as Dobson can leave on a free.
If a player wants to leave they are gonna leave though 🤷♂️
I guarantee we have wasted more money on big contracts for chuks and kirk (fee and wages for 4 years) than we would get selling dobbo and cbt put together.
After her partner was called a f****** terrorist by a Charlton fan on twitter during the game
He was awful and will possibly be the last time he’s seen in a Charlton shirt but keep it constructive when making comments on an individual. That line has been crossed by making an ignorant comment like that.
That's vile is it... I guess that's a matter of perspective but I think I've heard worse in a Year 3 playground!
I don't think our fans are vile and toxic, quite the opposite on the general spectrum of fanbases. I recall Curbs' story about the difference between going through a losing streak at Charlton and when he was at West Ham.
I know tackling is not a key part to his game, but I’ve never seen a player turn his back or pull out of tackles as much as him. It’s painfully embarrassing.
That cant be true surely, he's got hard man tattoos and everything?!
Think the death of his dad has broken him, and he badly needs a fresh start at another club, his agent, if he has one, should be advising him this.
This is it , I don't think he's anywhere near a worst players ever to play for us level , he's just a player that needs a fresh start somewhere else. I just feel bad for him really , it's hard to watch a player with so little confidence - he's probably the one player on the pitch you didn't want that 1v1 to drop to.
I had a beer with an ex Crewe player on holiday last year who when he finished done a bit of coaching with Kirk there, he said he didn’t rate Kirk at all and didn’t expect him to do anything with us. Boy he was right.
We’re generally a tolerant bunch, but the problem is he is still here, still getting chances, still putting in dire performances. His ‘last chance’ should already have been and gone. Now it’s impacting on humiliating results.
He plays a Wish version of Jack Grealish. We just need to part ways for everyone’s sake.
The thing with last night was under the unflinching BBC closeups of Kirk’s face, he clearly wasn’t bothered by missing those sitters or being subbed off. Look again at the moment he “congratulates” Fraser after the goal. His face says it all - doesn’t give a shit.
Think the death of his dad has broken him, and he badly needs a fresh start at another club, his agent, if he has one, should be advising him this.
He had a chance when he went on loan to Blackpool and Burton but didn't really do much at either.
I'm not sure if either wanted him permanently, or if they did but we wanted a fee for him that they wouldn't pay but it seems quite likely that with his contract running to 2025, the only way we're going to get rid of him is by loaning him out for 18 months or by paying up his contract and letting him go.
He didn't want the ball, and when he did get it, he passed it backwards. Never looking to take his man on, let alone getting past him. Even when 70-30 in his favor, he still wouldn't make a tackle. Not trying to slag him off, but just making an observation. I think mentally, something is completely wrong with him. Not nice to see but at the same time, how can you justify keeping him on after that? Should be looking to loan him out in January. I can imagine between hem and Aneke a significant part of our budget goes down the drain. That is not his concern though, we have Steve Gallen to thank for that.
After her partner was called a f****** terrorist by a Charlton fan on twitter during the game
He was awful and will possibly be the last time he’s seen in a Charlton shirt but keep it constructive when making comments on an individual. That line has been crossed by making an ignorant comment like that.
That's vile is it... I guess that's a matter of perspective but I think I've heard worse in a Year 3 playground!
I don't think our fans are not vile and toxic, quite the opposite on the general spectrum of fanbases. I recall Curbs' story about the difference between going through a losing streak at Charlton and when he was at West Ham.
Whatever has caused it he is such a bad player now. Just seems to lack concentration with no real desire to actually play. I think he would be happy to just pick up L1 wages for the rest of his career and never come off the bench.
Who takes him on loan in Jan though? I’m pretty sure we tried to ship him out in the run up to the summer deadline. I would imagine the only feasible option is a league 2 club and we’re happy to pay the majority of his wages. I can’t see another league one club coming in for him, and the majority of league 2 clubs bar maybe Gillingham and Wrexham won’t have the funds - not saying Gillingham or Wrexham would want him, just highlighting the conundrum we find ourselves in. And he’s under contract until the end of next season - mind blowing
Should never be in the first team squad again make him train with the under 18 and get rid in January because his got no place here his had enough chances and blew them
Going by Appleton’s post match interview, and his apparent track record of freezing out certain players at previous clubs, I have a strong suspicion that, barring a disastrous injury crisis, today we finally saw the last of him in a Charlton shirt.
Thank fuck for that,been a complete waste of space whenever he puts our shirt on…good bye & good riddance…non league is where he is at,if anyone..(🤞🏻) takes him off our hands or just pay the bloke off…and doc his pay off too,never earn’t his wages whilst being here
To all those wondering how we can get rid of him, it's easy. Just tell him straight he is never going to play another game for the first team.
Let him train by himself in the afternoon.
Call his agent in and tell him to find a move for his player in January otherwise he will literally rot for the next 18 months.
That's not nice I know, because at the end of the day it's not nice to treat people like that, but Kirk has taken the mickey for too long now and it's time to play hardball with him.
To all those wondering how we can get rid of him, it's easy. Just tell him straight he is never going to play another game for the first team.
Let him train by himself in the afternoon.
Call his agent in and tell him to find a move for his player in January otherwise he will literally rot for the next 18 months.
That's not nice I know, because at the end of the day it's not nice to treat people like that, but Kirk has taken the mickey for too long now and it's time to play hardball with him.
We've had too many players recently who deserve this treatment...
Should never be in the first team squad again make him train with the under 18 and get rid in January because his got no place here his had enough chances and blew them
Going by Appleton’s post match interview, and his apparent track record of freezing out certain players at previous clubs, I have a strong suspicion that, barring a disastrous injury crisis, today we finally saw the last of him in a Charlton shirt.
It's a bold call to suggest Appleton will be around longer than the length of Kirk's contract.
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He was awful and will possibly be the last time he’s seen in a Charlton shirt but keep it constructive when making comments on an individual. That line has been crossed by making an ignorant comment like that.
I guarantee we have wasted more money on big contracts for chuks and kirk (fee and wages for 4 years) than we would get selling dobbo and cbt put together.
I don't think our fans are vile and toxic, quite the opposite on the general spectrum of fanbases. I recall Curbs' story about the difference between going through a losing streak at Charlton and when he was at West Ham.
This is it , I don't think he's anywhere near a worst players ever to play for us level , he's just a player that needs a fresh start somewhere else. I just feel bad for him really , it's hard to watch a player with so little confidence - he's probably the one player on the pitch you didn't want that 1v1 to drop to.
We’re generally a tolerant bunch, but the problem is he is still here, still getting chances, still putting in dire performances. His ‘last chance’ should already have been and gone. Now it’s impacting on humiliating results.
He plays a Wish version of Jack Grealish. We just need to part ways for everyone’s sake.
Just think he's happy to earn his dough as a squad player who never makes an appearance.
I'm not sure if either wanted him permanently, or if they did but we wanted a fee for him that they wouldn't pay but it seems quite likely that with his contract running to 2025, the only way we're going to get rid of him is by loaning him out for 18 months or by paying up his contract and letting him go.
He didn't want the ball, and when he did get it, he passed it backwards. Never looking to take his man on, let alone getting past him. Even when 70-30 in his favor, he still wouldn't make a tackle. Not trying to slag him off, but just making an observation. I think mentally, something is completely wrong with him. Not nice to see but at the same time, how can you justify keeping him on after that? Should be looking to loan him out in January. I can imagine between hem and Aneke a significant part of our budget goes down the drain. That is not his concern though, we have Steve Gallen to thank for that.
i thinks it's definitely mental with him. I bet he tucks those two chances away every time on the training pitch.
if I was him, I would be telling my agent to be on the phone to every north west league 2 club trying to get me a move.
he needs a fresh start otherwise he will soon be making tea and sweeping up in mrs Kirk's salon full time.
Best thing for him and us, even if we only get a fraction of his wages paid during a loan or two, or have to write a chunk off etc.
Let him train by himself in the afternoon.
Call his agent in and tell him to find a move for his player in January otherwise he will literally rot for the next 18 months.
That's not nice I know, because at the end of the day it's not nice to treat people like that, but Kirk has taken the mickey for too long now and it's time to play hardball with him.
oh yeah that's right the money on his ludicrous contract.
He has been a leach to this club.