MacGillivray kept us in it, Wigan could have been 4 up and it wouldn't have been an injustice Hard to see exactly what's wrong thru the middle of the defense but for 3rd game in a row it's been found wanting Watson standing out as the best midfielder is a dismal state of affairs. Clare was missed, which is grim cos' he's nowhere near the much missed Pratley. Dobson looked like a very young boy amongst men, a weak slow thick little boy so far out of his depth he must be amphibious. Full backs were alright Kirk looked willing if not over blessed with talent. DJ has shown glimpses of talent, previously, showed none on Saturday and gave up after 15 minutes. If Adkins knew he was good for 45 minutes max why the actual fuck was he sent out 2nd half? It was clear to all DJ'd bailed out long before. If it was physical then Adkins is a pillock, if it was anything else then DJ's a prick - judgement reserved til we know for sure. Morgan gave all he had, which is still some way short of what's required at this level. He's definitely improved some aspects but he's not at it, yet. Stockley was peerless and devoid of support. Adkins selection of the injured Washington ahead of Davison is troubling and baffling. Adkins's resources are some way short of what's required but his use of them is already proving cause for concern. Til now I've not been too concerned about the state of the squad and the numbers still required but the currently fit first XI is relegation fodder: no goals and porous defending. Several signings are urgently required this week, numbers are just as important as quality at the moment. Pratley would have been my choice over Watson to be retained but their respective contract situations unbalanced that decision. I'm sure Gallen and Co believed that Clare and Dobson would be upgrades but not so, their relative youth doesn't make up for their inadequacy compared to DP. It's not as if DP commands such a high wage is it? He's at Orient FFS Gilbey might return but clearly that ain't going to be soon, JFC ain't going to be seen before New Year at the earliest. Numbers are way short. The notion of 'replacing Chuks' is bogus cos he's crocked and not a sensible use of limited resources but Stockers and Washington won't play 46 league matches and we're gonna need greater numbers plus back up. The protracted absence of a fit left back is moronic. At this rate getting Johnnie Jackson registered as a player wouldn't be the daftest policy. A relegation 6-pointer in August is a ghastly prospect but it does provide an opportunity for a morale boosting jump up the table. Saturday has to be win at all costs. Failure to win on 28th is failure at its most abject. Anything less than victory and the atmosphere at The Valley will be febrile. Adkins has to swallow his not inconsiderable pride and focus singularly on beating the lesser CAFC, whatever's required. His system thus far hasn't worked. Something between not having the players up to delivering it and his failure to convey what's actually required to deliver, makes no odds, it ain't working and ain't been close to working.
I've just remembered the one solitary upside from Saturday: the applause when the players 'took the knee' comfortably drowned out the minority of sickening bigoted no marks who booed.
Booing, chanting "You're not fit to wear the shirt" and "We're fucking shite" are such blunt instruments. They demotivate the whole team, even those who had moderately good games. McGillivary was good, I thought Kirk showed some promise and also Famewo had a good game, yet they get hit by this barrage of abuse. Being a supporter comes with some responsibilities, our job is to give encouragement to the team through good times and bad. How anyone can think that this sort of vitriol and abuse will motivate players and management is beyond me. I agree that the team is not good enough and we are likely to see many substandard games this season, that the recruitment has not been good enough and much of the criticism of individual players and the teams tactics overall. However I will never go down the road of indiscriminate abuse of the team. I am a supporter and that's what I will continue to do, even when what I see in front of me is pretty dire. Meet up with mates, have a beer or two, discuss individual players and the tactics and the management failings, criticise all you like, that's certainly what I do every home game, and at the moment it is the highlight of the matchday. But at the end of the game, if the team has played badly, I reflect on the shortcomings, moan about it with my mates, then carry on with my life.
Great post (although I may be biased as AltyAddick is my brother).
gillingham away will be more telling of where we're going than crewe at home, after the transfers window where we might bring in/finalse some freebies along with transfer fee signings and loans prior. same line up for crewe at home since we have no choice.
MacGillivray kept us in it, Wigan could have been 4 up and it wouldn't have Watson standing out as the best midfielder is a dismal state of affairs. Clare was missed, which is grim cos' he's nowhere near the much missed Pratley. Dobson looked like a very young boy amongst men, a weak slow thick little boy so far out of his depth he must be amphibious. Full backs were alright Kirk looked willing if not over blessed with talent. DJ has shown glimpses of talent, previously, showed none on Saturday and gave up after 15 minutes. If Adkins knew he was good for 45 minutes max why the actual fuck was he sent out 2nd half? It was clear to all DJ'd bailed out long before. If it was physical then Adkins is a pillock, if it was anything else then DJ's a prick -
Sorry, but I don’t get this personal stuff that crops up more and more these days. All getting a bit toxic. It’s just players trying their best, and maybe not succeeding. It’s all getting out of proportion. Imagine saying any of this stuff to their faces, one to one.
MacGillivray kept us in it, Wigan could have been 4 up and it wouldn't have Watson standing out as the best midfielder is a dismal state of affairs. Clare was missed, which is grim cos' he's nowhere near the much missed Pratley. Dobson looked like a very young boy amongst men, a weak slow thick little boy so far out of his depth he must be amphibious. Full backs were alright Kirk looked willing if not over blessed with talent. DJ has shown glimpses of talent, previously, showed none on Saturday and gave up after 15 minutes. If Adkins knew he was good for 45 minutes max why the actual fuck was he sent out 2nd half? It was clear to all DJ'd bailed out long before. If it was physical then Adkins is a pillock, if it was anything else then DJ's a prick -
Sorry, but I don’t get this personal stuff that crops up more and more these days. All getting a bit toxic. It’s just players trying their best, and maybe not succeeding. It’s all getting out of proportion. Imagine saying any of this stuff to their faces, one to one.
I wonder who used to post in that manner, it's got a very familiar ring to it 😯
MacGillivray kept us in it, Wigan could have been 4 up and it wouldn't have Watson standing out as the best midfielder is a dismal state of affairs. Clare was missed, which is grim cos' he's nowhere near the much missed Pratley. Dobson looked like a very young boy amongst men, a weak slow thick little boy so far out of his depth he must be amphibious. Full backs were alright Kirk looked willing if not over blessed with talent. DJ has shown glimpses of talent, previously, showed none on Saturday and gave up after 15 minutes. If Adkins knew he was good for 45 minutes max why the actual fuck was he sent out 2nd half? It was clear to all DJ'd bailed out long before. If it was physical then Adkins is a pillock, if it was anything else then DJ's a prick -
Sorry, but I don’t get this personal stuff that crops up more and more these days. All getting a bit toxic. It’s just players trying their best, and maybe not succeeding. It’s all getting out of proportion. Imagine saying any of this stuff to their faces, one to one.
I wonder who used to post in that manner, it's got a very familiar ring to it 😯
An issue is that our wide players are finding hard to beat their defender but if they had a full back overlapping or even supporting it would be easier for them to do so. I think Purrington does this well. Steve Brown made the point last season that Maatson was running into the space the wide man wanted. Purrington supports the wide man with an option. Currently they are on their own too much though.
Can anybody tell me what the attendance was on Saturday. Can't find it anywhere and missed the announcement at the game. Looked about 11k from where I was sat in the West Upper
Can anybody tell me what the attendance was on Saturday. Can't find it anywhere and missed the announcement at the game. Looked about 11k from where I was sat in the West Upper
Can anybody tell me what the attendance was on Saturday. Can't find it anywhere and missed the announcement at the game. Looked about 11k from where I was sat in the West Upper
An issue is that our wide players are finding hard to beat their defender but if they had a full back overlapping or even supporting it would be easier for them to do so. I think Purrington does this well. Steve Brown made the point last season that Maatson was running into the space the wide man wanted. Purrington supports the wide man with an option. Currently they are on their own too much though.
Exactly as I see it. The full backs are the problem right now. They should provide help all the way up and down the flanks. They try, but they just haven't got the skills or stamina. If I could sign three new players before next month, 2 of them would be full-backs and I'd ship either CG or AM out if possible.
Any one else notice how good Pratley is now he has left ? His main ambition last season was to get more yellow cards than Watson. Well that's what it looked like.
As Rhoy Wiggins told me ? Football politics will always rear its head and we only needed one out of Pratley and Watson. TBH I'm not sure we needed either 36 year old. Watson had the second year option so Pratley went as his contract was up.
Bolton and Coventry dipped their toe into the League 2 cesspit before their renaissance saw then escape the 10pm to 10.30 slot on Quest.
I was spot on with the 7th prediction last season but I'm hanging fire until the Window closes. I can say top 2 is looking a tad unlikely !
If you can keep your head while all around you are losing there's; you can play striker for Charlton athletic.
MacGillivray kept us in it, Wigan could have been 4 up and it wouldn't have Watson standing out as the best midfielder is a dismal state of affairs. Clare was missed, which is grim cos' he's nowhere near the much missed Pratley. Dobson looked like a very young boy amongst men, a weak slow thick little boy so far out of his depth he must be amphibious. Full backs were alright Kirk looked willing if not over blessed with talent. DJ has shown glimpses of talent, previously, showed none on Saturday and gave up after 15 minutes. If Adkins knew he was good for 45 minutes max why the actual fuck was he sent out 2nd half? It was clear to all DJ'd bailed out long before. If it was physical then Adkins is a pillock, if it was anything else then DJ's a prick -
Sorry, but I don’t get this personal stuff that crops up more and more these days. All getting a bit toxic. It’s just players trying their best, and maybe not succeeding. It’s all getting out of proportion. Imagine saying any of this stuff to their faces, one to one.
Stopped reading when he said the much missed Pratley (now plying his trade in league 2)
An issue is that our wide players are finding hard to beat their defender but if they had a full back overlapping or even supporting it would be easier for them to do so. I think Purrington does this well. Steve Brown made the point last season that Maatson was running into the space the wide man wanted. Purrington supports the wide man with an option. Currently they are on their own too much though.
Matthews, although no Cafu, managed to get up and down to some sort of reasonable degree last season. In the first half against MK Dons he did as well, including a couple of lovely chest passes.
If you playing full back you can only go foward if you confident the midfield can keep the ball long enough for you to get there, find you or someone else when you do and track the runner back when you lose it.
Fix the midfield and a lot, not all, of the other things fix themselves.
I also think we really miss the directness of Millar. You could give him the ball and it moved the whole team 10-20 yards up the pitch even if there was often no direct end result.
An issue is that our wide players are finding hard to beat their defender but if they had a full back overlapping or even supporting it would be easier for them to do so. I think Purrington does this well. Steve Brown made the point last season that Maatson was running into the space the wide man wanted. Purrington supports the wide man with an option. Currently they are on their own too much though.
Exactly as I see it. The full backs are the problem right now. They should provide help all the way up and down the flanks. They try, but they just haven't got the skills or stamina. If I could sign three new players before next month, 2 of them would be full-backs and I'd ship either CG or AM out if possible.
In their defence (excuse the pun), they may have concerns that our wingers don’t offer much defensive support and are more reluctant to make overlapping runs. Adam Matthews in particular seems to be far less attacking than he has been previously and there must be a reason for that? Could it even be instructions from the coaches?
Adkins seems to be oddly obsessed with DJ so it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s put the brakes on Matthews to give him more freedom. It’s such a contrast to Bowyer who would have dropped him and slagged him off by now for letting his runner go in every game….
An issue is that our wide players are finding hard to beat their defender but if they had a full back overlapping or even supporting it would be easier for them to do so. I think Purrington does this well. Steve Brown made the point last season that Maatson was running into the space the wide man wanted. Purrington supports the wide man with an option. Currently they are on their own too much though.
Exactly as I see it. The full backs are the problem right now. They should provide help all the way up and down the flanks. They try, but they just haven't got the skills or stamina. If I could sign three new players before next month, 2 of them would be full-backs and I'd ship either CG or AM out if possible.
In their defence (excuse the pun), they may have concerns that our wingers don’t offer much defensive support and are more reluctant to make overlapping runs. Adam Matthews in particular seems to be far less attacking than he has been previously and there must be a reason for that? Could it even be instructions from the coaches?
If it is instructions from the coaches then 4-3-3 is the wrong system because without the full backs bombing on it doesn't operate effectively. Kirk needs a full back who gets forward to support him if he's to replicate his best Crewe performances.
An issue is that our wide players are finding hard to beat their defender but if they had a full back overlapping or even supporting it would be easier for them to do so. I think Purrington does this well. Steve Brown made the point last season that Maatson was running into the space the wide man wanted. Purrington supports the wide man with an option. Currently they are on their own too much though.
Exactly as I see it. The full backs are the problem right now. They should provide help all the way up and down the flanks. They try, but they just haven't got the skills or stamina. If I could sign three new players before next month, 2 of them would be full-backs and I'd ship either CG or AM out if possible.
In their defence (excuse the pun), they may have concerns that our wingers don’t offer much defensive support and are more reluctant to make overlapping runs. Adam Matthews in particular seems to be far less attacking than he has been previously and there must be a reason for that? Could it even be instructions from the coaches?
Adkins seems to be oddly obsessed with DJ so it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s put the brakes on Matthews to give him more freedom. It’s such a contrast to Bowyer who would have dropped him and slagged him off by now for letting his runner go in every game….
It’s all about opinions I guess but from where I sit (sat) Purrington offered almost nothing in an attacking sense and Matthews looks as though he either doesn’t give a toss/has been told not to go beyond halfway/both of the above. Proper attacking left backs like Da Silva or Wiggins added so much but at the risk of exposure defensively on occasion. We have absolutely nothing like either on the books (I can’t speak for Roddy but I just have this sneaking feeling in my water that he is shit).
Edit. Yes I know Purrington scored at Wembley but in general terms……..
Purrington was watching from the stand, so you are correct he did offer nothing going forward !!!
Eh? Purrington scored our equaliser at Wembley v Sunderland. I was referring to that and his general non contribution in attack during his career thus far with us. I am aware that he has not featured this season.
It you look at his record Purrington gets forward a fair amount. The main problem is he is slow getting back. He is no Luke Shaw but not many players are.
It you look at his record Purrington gets forward a fair amount. The main problem is he is slow getting back. He is no Luke Shaw but not many players are.
Agreed. He's pretty good going forward, but horribly slow to get back when possession breaks down
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Hard to see exactly what's wrong thru the middle of the defense but for 3rd game in a row it's been found wanting
Watson standing out as the best midfielder is a dismal state of affairs. Clare was missed, which is grim cos' he's nowhere near the much missed Pratley. Dobson looked like a very young boy amongst men, a weak slow thick little boy so far out of his depth he must be amphibious.
Full backs were alright
Kirk looked willing if not over blessed with talent. DJ has shown glimpses of talent, previously, showed none on Saturday and gave up after 15 minutes. If Adkins knew he was good for 45 minutes max why the actual fuck was he sent out 2nd half? It was clear to all DJ'd bailed out long before. If it was physical then Adkins is a pillock, if it was anything else then DJ's a prick - judgement reserved til we know for sure.
Morgan gave all he had, which is still some way short of what's required at this level. He's definitely improved some aspects but he's not at it, yet.
Stockley was peerless and devoid of support.
Adkins selection of the injured Washington ahead of Davison is troubling and baffling.
Adkins's resources are some way short of what's required but his use of them is already proving cause for concern.
Til now I've not been too concerned about the state of the squad and the numbers still required but the currently fit first XI is relegation fodder: no goals and porous defending.
Several signings are urgently required this week, numbers are just as important as quality at the moment.
Pratley would have been my choice over Watson to be retained but their respective contract situations unbalanced that decision. I'm sure Gallen and Co believed that Clare and Dobson would be upgrades but not so, their relative youth doesn't make up for their inadequacy compared to DP.
It's not as if DP commands such a high wage is it? He's at Orient FFS
Gilbey might return but clearly that ain't going to be soon, JFC ain't going to be seen before New Year at the earliest. Numbers are way short.
The notion of 'replacing Chuks' is bogus cos he's crocked and not a sensible use of limited resources but Stockers and Washington won't play 46 league matches and we're gonna need greater numbers plus back up.
The protracted absence of a fit left back is moronic. At this rate getting Johnnie Jackson registered as a player wouldn't be the daftest policy.
A relegation 6-pointer in August is a ghastly prospect but it does provide an opportunity for a morale boosting jump up the table.
Saturday has to be win at all costs. Failure to win on 28th is failure at its most abject. Anything less than victory and the atmosphere at The Valley will be febrile. Adkins has to swallow his not inconsiderable pride and focus singularly on beating the lesser CAFC, whatever's required. His system thus far hasn't worked. Something between not having the players up to delivering it and his failure to convey what's actually required to deliver, makes no odds, it ain't working and ain't been close to working.
I've just remembered the one solitary upside from Saturday: the applause when the players 'took the knee' comfortably drowned out the minority of sickening bigoted no marks who booed.
things could be worse, we could support Arsenal
https://twitter.com/footballlforall/status/1429776304941961218?s=21
Has he gone? He could be very amusing.
Can't find it anywhere and missed the announcement at the game.
Looked about 11k from where I was sat in the West Upper
I bet it really was 11k actual then
https://mobile.twitter.com/mansfieldtownfc/status/1429131890292838403?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1429666372821397507|twgr^|twcon^s3_&ref_url=https://d-32799943002276011135.ampproject.net/2108052321001/frame.html
His main ambition last season was to get more yellow cards than Watson. Well that's what it looked like.
As Rhoy Wiggins told me ? Football politics will always rear its head and we only needed one out of Pratley and Watson. TBH I'm not sure we needed either 36 year old. Watson had the second year option so Pratley went as his contract was up.
Bolton and Coventry dipped their toe into the League 2 cesspit before their renaissance saw then escape the 10pm to 10.30 slot on Quest.
I was spot on with the 7th prediction last season but I'm hanging fire until the Window closes. I can say top 2 is looking a tad unlikely !
If you can keep your head while all around you are losing there's; you can play striker for Charlton athletic.
If you playing full back you can only go foward if you confident the midfield can keep the ball long enough for you to get there, find you or someone else when you do and track the runner back when you lose it.
Fix the midfield and a lot, not all, of the other things fix themselves.
I also think we really miss the directness of Millar. You could give him the ball and it moved the whole team 10-20 yards up the pitch even if there was often no direct end result.
Purrington was watching from the stand, so you are correct he did offer nothing going forward !!!