I thought the concept was signing young players on the up from the leagues below that might show a return... not signing players from the leagues below that are on the way down and were not good enough for us 12 months ago.
I wouldn't be surprised if Garner wants him because he's known him since his early days and say's he'd have played at the highest level consistently were it not for his injuries.
Can't see the recruitment team being all in agreement on this one though, and we don't have space to accommodate more bench sitters with Aneke, JFC and Inniss all potentially injury prone based on their records last season.
If he was fit (fewer knocks) it'd be a no brainer I agree. Pearce fits the old head role perfectly and does the take a place in the squad.
I am not getting into the Williams debate because it goes in more circles than the blackbox but..............
The oldest player we have got is about 28 we do need a bit of experience. The key is getting an Andy Hughes not a Chris Gunter.
Think we would have got promoted with or without Andy Hughes that year
It wasn't only Hughes though was it, Euell, Court, Hayes were all very experienced players. I hate the expression but we have lacked "locker room leaders" for a while.
I think we have had far more success with young Premier League loan players, like Millar, Maatsen, Da Silva, Cullen, Bielik and Gallagher than dropping down Champ players. Obviously, you get the odd lemon like Dylan Levitt, Nile John etc but generally they have more to prove that they can make it in mens football. I also like raiding lower level teams for their best players, Danny Hollands, Rhys Wiggins, Dale Stephens all come to mind. Therefore I am supportive of the current player acquisition strategy although a little nervous about the ball playing, attractive football nonsense. I think those who drop from the Championship like Matthews, Gunter, Watson , Arter and Famewo are always a bit disappointed at the level they are playing at and don't perform so well. Sorba Thomas has shown brilliantly this year that you can move from lower leagues to the Championship. Below the Premier League, I dont honestly think that the gulf in quality is that big. If I look back further into our history, Lennie got us promoted by pinching Steve Thompson and George Shipley from division below Lincoln and John Pender and John Humphrey from relegated Wolves. Time will tell, but nothing on player recruitment so far to be disappointed about.
No idea if we could get him but I like the sound of Josh Wilson-Esbrand at left-back. London lad who left West Ham for Man City in 2019. England U20 international and sounds like a good attacking full-back who could compliment Kirk well.
Slight bit of pedantry: the X factor player is Chuks Aneke and has always been. What we need is another X factor player for when our first one gets broken
I'm a fan of Chuks Aneke and he is more our Y-factor player. Y can't Aneke play more games and minutes as he would slaughter League 1 as his record of a goal every 100 minutes is top notch. He could even afford to win the crossbar challenge most weeks if he gets 3 chances or more a game. He enjoys being the super sub which tells you his mind as well as his body can be an issue. Play Stockley for 60 and Aneke for 30 if need be but we need the option of the headed goals. (Shrewsbury at home) He was taken off more to save him getting a second yellow than because of injury in his time at Cafc; unlike Ryan Inniss !
Is that a confirmed fact that Chuks prefers to come off the bench? If so it's really weird
I don't see how the positives around Williams can outweigh the negatives. Nobody ever has an answer for them so I can only assume it's sentimental. He is very likeable as a person.
I agree with the previous poster I think. While JW wouldn’t be at the top of my want list, he might fit in very well with Garner’s style of play, and could be a useful addition to the squad, although not necessarily a regular starter.
Although I think it’s unlikely that we re sign Williams I wouldn’t be too disappointed if we did. Under Bowyer Williams was not used in the same way that he would be under Garner. In a team always wanting to retain possession and looking to push forward which is what we’re hopefully getting then Williams would look a different player to the one that left us. I’m not saying as a starter week in week out but a very useful and effective squad player. I’d rather JW than young PL loan who either isn’t ready or not good enough.
The World Cup means signing Williams would be a bad idea in my opinion. I think as a player he’s good enough but if he’s going to miss at least a month of the season (and that’s without injuries) when we have a squad cap that doesn’t feel like a smart signing
Wales these days are a very competitive international team. If we can get hold of a player good enough to be going to the World Cup then I think for a league one side it’s a very smart move.
Chris Gunter will be going to the World Cup
That’s because he’s always turned it on for Wales 🤷🏻♂️
McKirdy's record looks like someone who has had one hot season, and hasn't really done anything before
Tyreece Simpson wants out of Ipswich and if the money wasn’t stupid I think he may be the better choice. 11 goals in 30 (on Wikipedia) on loan at Swindon. Only 20.
McKirdy's record looks like someone who has had one hot season, and hasn't really done anything before
Tyreece Simpson wants out of Ipswich and if the money wasn’t stupid I think he may be the better choice. 11 goals in 30 (on Wikipedia) on loan at Swindon. Only 20.
Wanted by Peterborough I think I saw. They don't often get their striking options wrong tbh so he must have something about him
McKirdy's record looks like someone who has had one hot season, and hasn't really done anything before
Tyreece Simpson wants out of Ipswich and if the money wasn’t stupid I think he may be the better choice. 11 goals in 30 (on Wikipedia) on loan at Swindon. Only 20.
Wanted by Peterborough I think I saw. They don't often get their striking options wrong tbh so he must have something about him
Barry Fry has come and said Ipswich won’t sell to a promotion rival.
McKirdy's record looks like someone who has had one hot season, and hasn't really done anything before
Tyreece Simpson wants out of Ipswich and if the money wasn’t stupid I think he may be the better choice. 11 goals in 30 (on Wikipedia) on loan at Swindon. Only 20.
Wanted by Peterborough I think I saw. They don't often get their striking options wrong tbh so he must have something about him
Barry Fry has come and said Ipswich won’t sell to a promotion rival.
Bit rich of Ipswich to call a team "a promotion rival" given where they finished last season
McKirdy's record looks like someone who has had one hot season, and hasn't really done anything before
Tyreece Simpson wants out of Ipswich and if the money wasn’t stupid I think he may be the better choice. 11 goals in 30 (on Wikipedia) on loan at Swindon. Only 20.
Wanted by Peterborough I think I saw. They don't often get their striking options wrong tbh so he must have something about him
Barry Fry has come and said Ipswich won’t sell to a promotion rival.
McKirdy's record looks like someone who has had one hot season, and hasn't really done anything before
Tyreece Simpson wants out of Ipswich and if the money wasn’t stupid I think he may be the better choice. 11 goals in 30 (on Wikipedia) on loan at Swindon. Only 20.
Wanted by Peterborough I think I saw. They don't often get their striking options wrong tbh so he must have something about him
Barry Fry has come and said Ipswich won’t sell to a promotion rival.
I don't see how the positives around Williams can outweigh the negatives. Nobody ever has an answer for them so I can only assume it's sentimental. He is very likeable as a person.
I agree with the previous poster I think. While JW wouldn’t be at the top of my want list, he might fit in very well with Garner’s style of play, and could be a useful addition to the squad, although not necessarily a regular starter.
Definitely a bit of sentimentality with JW as he comes across as such a nice bloke. Agree he is potentially well suited to Garner's preferred style of play but for me, he would only be a useful addition if there wasn't a squad size cap. Too much of a luxury with the current rules.
Just watched Swindon fan on youtube, he said they didn't lose a game with Reed in the side last season.. Also captain Conroy was released, wouldn't sign. Conroy from Redhill...
Slight bit of pedantry: the X factor player is Chuks Aneke and has always been. What we need is another X factor player for when our first one gets broken
I'm a fan of Chuks Aneke and he is more our Y-factor player. Y can't Aneke play more games and minutes as he would slaughter League 1 as his record of a goal every 100 minutes is top notch. He could even afford to win the crossbar challenge most weeks if he gets 3 chances or more a game. He enjoys being the super sub which tells you his mind as well as his body can be an issue. Play Stockley for 60 and Aneke for 30 if need be but we need the option of the headed goals. (Shrewsbury at home) He was taken off more to save him getting a second yellow than because of injury in his time at Cafc; unlike Ryan Inniss !
Is that a confirmed fact that Chuks prefers to come off the bench? If so it's really weird
I don't see how the positives around Williams can outweigh the negatives. Nobody ever has an answer for them so I can only assume it's sentimental. He is very likeable as a person.
I agree with the previous poster I think. While JW wouldn’t be at the top of my want list, he might fit in very well with Garner’s style of play, and could be a useful addition to the squad, although not necessarily a regular starter.
Definitely a bit of sentimentality with JW as he comes across as such a nice bloke. Agree he is potentially well suited to Garner's preferred style of play but for me, he would only be a useful addition if there wasn't a squad size cap. Too much of a luxury with the current rules.
Last season he played 2,500 odd minutes, more than double he had ever managed before.
Just watched Swindon fan on youtube, he said they didn't lose a game with Reed in the side last season.. Also captain Conroy was released, wouldn't sign. Conroy from Redhill...
Wouldn’t listen to him. They lost 9 times with Reed playing last season. But maybe more importantly, they won 21. Picked up 72 points when he played and had a PPG of 1.846. Enough for 85 points over the course of the season. They only picked up 5 points in the 7 games he missed.
I'd expect most loans to be later in the window even for U23s , clubs will want them in for a chunk of preseason first before making decisions. Hopefully we don't leave it right to deadline day though on that front.
LCB and left back next on the list for me please , wouldn't be surprised if the left back is one of the loanees though.
Bolton have already signed one on loan. The ones on the fringes of squads or who will play in the early rounds of the league Cup will move later.
What date did we sign Famewo last year?
Posh have signed 2 loan players already. Most sides will know which young players are way off 1st team contention this season
I don't see how the positives around Williams can outweigh the negatives. Nobody ever has an answer for them so I can only assume it's sentimental. He is very likeable as a person.
I agree with the previous poster I think. While JW wouldn’t be at the top of my want list, he might fit in very well with Garner’s style of play, and could be a useful addition to the squad, although not necessarily a regular starter.
Definitely a bit of sentimentality with JW as he comes across as such a nice bloke. Agree he is potentially well suited to Garner's preferred style of play but for me, he would only be a useful addition if there wasn't a squad size cap. Too much of a luxury with the current rules.
Agree. It's been done to death so I'll say this and leave it. He only started 53% of Swindon's games last season and played for an average of 55 minutes in each. He's a 28-year-old with a terrible injury record who can't last 90 minutes, and doesn't score or get assists in our league. We have a squad cap and need players who will stay fit, play all season, provide competition (to start games), and we all know we need more goals from midfield. I do not get these posts saying he would be a useful addition, it must be purely sentimental.
Slight bit of pedantry: the X factor player is Chuks Aneke and has always been. What we need is another X factor player for when our first one gets broken
I'm a fan of Chuks Aneke and he is more our Y-factor player. Y can't Aneke play more games and minutes as he would slaughter League 1 as his record of a goal every 100 minutes is top notch. He could even afford to win the crossbar challenge most weeks if he gets 3 chances or more a game. He enjoys being the super sub which tells you his mind as well as his body can be an issue. Play Stockley for 60 and Aneke for 30 if need be but we need the option of the headed goals. (Shrewsbury at home) He was taken off more to save him getting a second yellow than because of injury in his time at Cafc; unlike Ryan Inniss !
Is that a confirmed fact that Chuks prefers to come off the bench? If so it's really weird
yes it is - it's definitely his preferred option
Yes, and there’s a reason for it which no one will divulge. Not just about injuries someone said?
It probably is ultimately about injuries - I wouldn't be surprised if Chuks has serious mental issues concerning his fitness that have given him a genuine phobia of starting games. If he's more comfortable doing 30 minutes, let him - he's good enough that this should be honoured
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I think those who drop from the Championship like Matthews, Gunter, Watson , Arter and Famewo are always a bit disappointed at the level they are playing at and don't perform so well.
Sorba Thomas has shown brilliantly this year that you can move from lower leagues to the Championship. Below the Premier League, I dont honestly think that the gulf in quality is that big.
If I look back further into our history, Lennie got us promoted by pinching Steve Thompson and George Shipley from division below Lincoln and John Pender and John Humphrey from relegated Wolves.
Time will tell, but nothing on player recruitment so far to be disappointed about.
11 goals in 30 (on Wikipedia) on loan at Swindon. Only 20.