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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,520
    sam3110 said:
    Jayden isn't captain material, like Solly wasn't captain material. A captain needs to be the most vocal player, a leader of men and a disciplinarian. For all his footballing shortcomings and faults, Pearce epitomised this. I'd give it to Inniss, O'Connell, Dobson or McGrandles based on that alone

    I dunno, he's pretty vocal when flapping his arms around having a good old moan.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited July 2022
    I think I preferred it when everyone was talking bollocks about the shirt being too Orange, rather than the total wank about whether the chosen Captain is the right person for the job. None of it based on actual knowledge of the personalities involved and what the manager thinks they will bring to the role, but largely based on what position they play, how hairy their arse is, and how much they shout.

    And all of it on a discussion that is supposed to be about Transfer Rumours!!
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,911
    AndyG said:
    I like Stockley and think he has done little wrong to get the stick he has had on here lately. However he isnt an on field captain for me. To many silly bookings for my liking
    Difficult to say as we don't know the dynamic in the team or how JS is viewed by the rest of the squad.

    Pearce was captain and got booked.
    Yup but Pearce was calculated imo. For me Stockley isnt, once he gets a booking I always think he is likely to get another one and sent off
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    He hasn't been sent off that many times.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,455
    edited July 2022
    He hasn't been sent off that many times.
    Three straight reds in his career, just the one with us, which was his first in five years.

    Even then that red card was given by Trevor Kettle, so doesnt really count

    He's been sent off twice for two bookings in his career, but again the most recent was 2017

    He can be an idiot with challenges, as we saw last Saturday against Swansea, but then he's also got his head screwed on... I mean it wasnt long after that foul, that he pretty much decided against even going for one loose ball as looked a 50/50 for him getting to it.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    AndyG said:
    AndyG said:
    I like Stockley and think he has done little wrong to get the stick he has had on here lately. However he isnt an on field captain for me. To many silly bookings for my liking
    Difficult to say as we don't know the dynamic in the team or how JS is viewed by the rest of the squad.

    Pearce was captain and got booked.
    Yup but Pearce was calculated imo. For me Stockley isnt, once he gets a booking I always think he is likely to get another one and sent off
    How many times has he been sent off playing for us?
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    AndyG said:
    AndyG said:
    I like Stockley and think he has done little wrong to get the stick he has had on here lately. However he isnt an on field captain for me. To many silly bookings for my liking
    Difficult to say as we don't know the dynamic in the team or how JS is viewed by the rest of the squad.

    Pearce was captain and got booked.
    Yup but Pearce was calculated imo. For me Stockley isnt, once he gets a booking I always think he is likely to get another one and sent off
    How many times has he been sent off playing for us?
    Just the once against Burton right. And I still don’t believe him and Deji deserved straight reds for that - but they got kettled. 

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    I like a player with an edge. If they do something stupid, I expect them to learn from it. Stockley puts himself about and winds up opponents which I always thought was a good thing. 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    cafc4life said:
    Stockley is one of the best centre forwards in the league, get off his back and get behind him and the boys. 
    This.

    Sheff Wednesday were after him before opting for Rotherham’s top scorer instead if I’m not mistaken, says all you need to know.

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  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    cafc4life said:
    Stockley is one of the best centre forwards in the league, get off his back and get behind him and the boys. 
    This.

    Sheff Wednesday were after him before opting for Rotherham’s top scorer instead if I’m not mistaken, says all you need to know.
    Because we told them he was not for sale .. plus they could not afford him hence signing a free from Rotherham 
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Cannot understand why everyone is on Stockley’s back. Not sure where the fuck we would be without him. Manager has chosen him as captain for a reason, move on. We would be playing crap teams like Swindon if it wasn’t for Stockley.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    At this level, if he stays fit and works within the system he is a 20 plus a season player. I think that is something we really need.
  • Danlazzz
    Danlazzz Posts: 13
    Good centre forwards in this division are very hard to find. We have one, and he has proven he will score goals, if you give him chances.

    GIVE HIM A CHANCE AND GET OFF HIS BACK
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    There is a question mark about him in the Championship, but that is a discussion I'm sure we will be pleased to have next season. I can't see why it is needed now when most teams if not all at this level would have him if we was giving him away.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    sam3110 said:
    Jayden isn't captain material, like Solly wasn't captain material. A captain needs to be the most vocal player, a leader of men and a disciplinarian. For all his footballing shortcomings and faults, Pearce epitomised this. I'd give it to Inniss, O'Connell, Dobson or McGrandles based on that alone
    Genuinely astonished that people still believe this idea that every captain needs to behave like Roy Keane. I'm also amazed people think they can make judgments about whether a player is a suitable captain based on what they've seen in a few matches rather than the professional football manager who have spent decades in the game and have been working with the players every day. Stockley has worn the armband for Adkins, Jackson and now Garner, I'm beginning to suspect that according to the people that see the squad every day, Stockley might just be captain material.
    Come on mate, Sam’s seen Stockley complain about the world class service he receives every game, how can he be a skipper.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    It is true that as fans it is a role we have less idea about. He doesn't captain us.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,455
    edited July 2022
    I also love the thought of the others who have been captain elsewhere O'Connell | McGrandles etc. during games just keeping quiet and letting Stockley get on with motivating the team on his own - All of them should be motivating each other out there, talking with each other, working with their team mates through the game.

    Its why you try to sign leaders throughout the team

    Imagine Stockley as Captain will be doing a lot of his work in the dressing room, and during training... Areas we dont see.

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  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,678
    Amazing how many people know better who to pick to be captain than the manager....
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,245
    The man clears away the majority of corners against us and I doubt that’s through a lack of traits you’d want a captain to have. In the last couple of years he hasn’t been a donkey at all, his goalscoring record is one of the best out of everyone in League One, he has also been loyal to us and stuck with us after his loan ended last year, you can’t fault his effort either, the anti-Stockley brigade need to chill out.

    We’ve watched so many useless strikers at Charlton you could name about 100 but Jayden is not one of them, when we lose matches this season it’s certainly not going to be because Stockley’s wearing the armband.
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    Amazing how many people know better who to pick to be captain than the manager....
    And the formation.  And the tactics. But then Charlton Life is rare in that 75% of posters appear to hold Uefa Pro coaching licences 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Stockley will be a player who can provide memories.
    I can still see that Matthews run and cross and Jayden’s majestic header against Wimbledon in my mind’s eye.
    I don’t get the criticism, he is who he is.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,705
    Amazing how many people know better who to pick to be captain than the manager....
    And the formation.  And the tactics. But then Charlton Life is rare in that 75% of posters appear to hold Uefa Pro coaching licences 
    And the signings...
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,455
    Amazing how many people know better who to pick to be captain than the manager....
    And the formation.  And the tactics. But then Charlton Life is rare in that 75% of posters appear to hold Uefa Pro coaching licences 
    Taught Pep and Jurgen everything they know
  • I seem to have gotten lost in the Captaincy thread. Can someone point me in the direction of the Transfer Rumours one?
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    I seem to have gotten lost in the Captaincy thread. Can someone point me in the direction of the Transfer Rumours one?

  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    edited July 2022
    Who fancies a new season eve meltdown?


  • Who fancies a new season eve meltdown?


    I call agent talk on this.  :)