Timing is key here. If he goes late on deadline day it won’t leave much time to get someone in with the funds that Garner may be given to play with
I’d expect us to line up deals rather than wait until someone has moved on. Those deals may then fall through if we can’t shift one or two on. Also think it’s more about freeing up wages than adding to our transfer budget.
Timing is key here. If he goes late on deadline day it won’t leave much time to get someone in with the funds that Garner may be given to play with
I’d expect us to line up deals rather than wait until someone has moved on. Those deals may then fall through if we can’t shift one or two on. Also think it’s more about freeing up wages than adding to our transfer budget.
Freeing up wages, adding to the transfer budget. Same thing
I think it's a bit harsh to say Gilbey is a poor player at this level, as he has shown that he can dominate games, like the 2-0 win over Ipswich at The Valley last season - just see the player marks thread (https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/93058/players-marks-charlton-v-ipswich-closes-wednesday-teatime/p1). The problem is that he's never done it consistently, and it's clear that he's not in Garner's plans. So I hope we get some sort of a fee for him and use that, plus the freed up wages, on reinforcements elsewhere.
I won't be surprised to see him end up at another League 1 club.
I don't think Kirk has the power to take effective corners. He is Floaty Boy. From 45 yards away he won't be able to get the pace and dip that Morgan or theoretically Fraser can. This was a problem with Lee's corners too
I thought that last season, but saw that he took them for Blackpool and setup a few goals from them. He'll have no problem - float them to Innis can be one plan rather than our only plan.
Am i the only one that actually feels sorry for Chuks and this latest injury setback? Some people on here mock him as though he does this purposely. I know I’d be down in the dumps if this kept happening to me and then social media mocking me I don’t think I’ll be in a good place mentally.
Am i the only one that actually feels sorry for Chuks and this latest injury setback? Some people on here mock him as though he does this purposely. I know I’d be down in the dumps if this kept happening to me and then social media mocking me I don’t think I’ll be in a good place mentally.
See I felt sorry for him but last season I heard he wasn't too phased about being injured and was happy to watch on from the sidelines. Hopefully once he's fit BG can manage him as he did Williams last season as he's dangerous off the bench.
He is never on the bench theses days and is only dangerous to himself.
I thought u were being picked on a little bit...Then you post without thinking too often. Give it a rest
I gave that post all the thought it required. This guy has been on life support playing fitness wise since he got back from Birmingham. Bowyer had him 5 months and sent him back telling TS he was now fitter. For that £300k was sent the other way. Portsmouth sent a similar amount to Stanley and got Bishop. 5 goals in 5 games and he hasn't missed one yet.. if you or anyone lse thinks we will get that out of A&Eeke this season...
Tell me Redhenry why either that thought or the one that says he is a danger to himself every time he starts training are wrong and why you see fit to to make a sarcastic 'pick upon comment', which, if made by someone else , you may well have agreed with.
It is either that or Charlton's training regime cripples players and they experience a Lazarus moment at places like Brum.
By the way stick your patronising where the sun doesn't shine, only your wit.
It's not Chuks fault we spent 300k on him and gave him a three year deal, he may have had the clubs pants down but that's on us, not him. As for a danger to himself, wtf are on about? He's a professional footballer who has played 67 times for us in three seasons, not some bomb disposal trainee.
Bomb disposal trainees aren’t in danger. It’s when they stop being trainees that it can get a bit edgy.
I think it's a bit harsh to say Gilbey is a poor player at this level, as he has shown that he can dominate games, like the 2-0 win over Ipswich at The Valley last season - just see the player marks thread (https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/93058/players-marks-charlton-v-ipswich-closes-wednesday-teatime/p1). The problem is that he's never done it consistently, and it's clear that he's not in Garner's plans. So I hope we get some sort of a fee for him and use that, plus the freed up wages, on reinforcements elsewhere.
I won't be surprised to see him end up at another League 1 club.
Yeah he had one or two games where everything came off for him and he looked great. But he's had two whole seasons where he's been poor. I feel like it's a large enough data set to make the call that those games were outliers.
20/21 Statbank average 5.96 21/22 Statbank average: 5.80
Gilbey is soooo frustrating. He looks great when getting hold of the ball and then running with it, causing panic in the opposition, but then more often than not massively over hits the pass. When he gets it right he’s quality, but sadly it isn’t often enough.
I think it's a bit harsh to say Gilbey is a poor player at this level, as he has shown that he can dominate games, like the 2-0 win over Ipswich at The Valley last season - just see the player marks thread (https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/93058/players-marks-charlton-v-ipswich-closes-wednesday-teatime/p1). The problem is that he's never done it consistently, and it's clear that he's not in Garner's plans. So I hope we get some sort of a fee for him and use that, plus the freed up wages, on reinforcements elsewhere.
I won't be surprised to see him end up at another League 1 club.
He dominated, well not dominated but played well in one game for us. It just so happened you highlighted that one game and chose to ignore all the others.
I think there's a good player in there and it just hasn't worked out for some reason. Moving him on along with 1 or 2 others is for the best if it allows us to sign a striker and CB.
Cannot wait for Chuks to bang some goals in when he is back just to shut 1956 up for a while.
And he will score -he got 4 in 9 for us last season.
Didn’t realise he scored so many for us last season.
People mock but he’s got just under 1 in 2 for us across 2020-2022 - and that’s mostly from sybarite appearances. If he gets more than 10 this season it could be invaluable to us
After saying that you do know somebody will beavering away to find a reason to discount some of those goals!
Gilbey is a frustrating player and in a side like Garner's where you want midfielders making runs into the box beyond the strikers he should be ideal.
He did have more than one good game but they were few and far between and Garner seems to think he has better and more suited players for the way we play now so a move would probably be best for everyone.
Good luck to him if he leaves. Don't think anyone could fault his effort.
Cannot wait for Chuks to bang some goals in when he is back just to shut 1956 up for a while.
And he will score -he got 4 in 9 for us last season.
Didn’t realise he scored so many for us last season.
People mock but he’s got just under 1 in 2 for us across 2020-2022 - and that’s mostly from sybarite appearances. If he gets more than 10 this season it could be invaluable to us
After saying that you do know somebody will beavering away to find a reason to discount some of those goals!
Goals from close range don't count
Goals that don't change the result don't count either
Timing is key here. If he goes late on deadline day it won’t leave much time to get someone in with the funds that Garner may be given to play with
I’d expect us to line up deals rather than wait until someone has moved on. Those deals may then fall through if we can’t shift one or two on. Also think it’s more about freeing up wages than adding to our transfer budget.
Freeing up wages, adding to the transfer budget. Same thing
In so much as we are governed by certain rules which is outside our control then it could be construed as being the same thing. However, it is highly likely that Garner has money available to spend within the transfer budget set by TS but can't do so because of the overall expenditure (including salaries) against revenue rules, and in that context it is different.
It’s funny what happens when you have a coaching set up which does not look to bypass the midfield.
Considering on the whole how badly performing people said our midfield was last year (with the exception of Dobbo for obvious reasons of course), and how well oiled they are beginning to look this year - maybe even Gilbey (player of the year two years in a row at ball playing MK Dons) would look better under ‘GarnerBall’.
It’s funny what happens when you have a coaching set up which does not look to bypass the midfield.
Considering on the whole how badly performing people said our midfield was last year (with the exception of Dobbo for obvious reasons of course), and how well oiled they are beginning to look this year - maybe even Gilbey (player of the year two years in a row at ball playing MK Dons) would look better under ‘GarnerBall’.
Agreed. I think Gilbey would do really well under Garner, unfortunately for him we are so well stacked in that area that he isn’t at the level we have now.
Timing is key here. If he goes late on deadline day it won’t leave much time to get someone in with the funds that Garner may be given to play with
I’d expect us to line up deals rather than wait until someone has moved on. Those deals may then fall through if we can’t shift one or two on. Also think it’s more about freeing up wages than adding to our transfer budget.
Freeing up wages, adding to the transfer budget. Same thing
I’m thinking we need to free up wages under SCMP rules in order to make more signings, while a nominal or £1m fee isn’t necessarily going to significantly change what if anything we spend on fees. Therefore we have to let players go, but we don’t have to raise funds to be able to afford fees as the players we’ll let go won’t be ones we can sell for big fees.
It’s funny what happens when you have a coaching set up which does not look to bypass the midfield.
Considering on the whole how badly performing people said our midfield was last year (with the exception of Dobbo for obvious reasons of course), and how well oiled they are beginning to look this year - maybe even Gilbey (player of the year two years in a row at ball playing MK Dons) would look better under ‘GarnerBall’.
But Garner wants his midfielders to constantly show for the ball, receive it in tight areas and play. That's probably Gilbey's biggest set of weaknesses. Firstly the bravery to not hide and play football, and secondly the technique to keep the ball in tight areas.
A few people did predict Gilbey would do well under Garner and yet he's being shipped on, meanwhile Albie Morgan is a starter.
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I won't be surprised to see him end up at another League 1 club.
20/21 Statbank average 5.96
21/22 Statbank average: 5.80
BG has come in and sussed him immediately.
It just so happened you highlighted that one game and chose to ignore all the others.
He has been consistent though, consistently poor.
He did have more than one good game but they were few and far between and Garner seems to think he has better and more suited players for the way we play now so a move would probably be best for everyone.
Good luck to him if he leaves. Don't think anyone could fault his effort.
Goals that don't change the result don't count either
: - )
A few people did predict Gilbey would do well under Garner and yet he's being shipped on, meanwhile Albie Morgan is a starter.