Just fed up to the back teeth of it all. This team is just so inconsistent. Or is it hopeless?
Just as I finally start to warm to MacGillivray he goes and costs us a goal with a stupid throw out; I hope all those who said last week that Pearce should be a mainstay in our defence next season finally realise that great player that he has been, he should be no-where near our first team on a regular basis; Morgan and Gilbey were once again dire.
And JJ's continual playing of this 3-5-2 formation is surly going to cost him his job sooner or later. These players can't play it. And I very much doubt TS is going to bring in a near new team to enable us to do so.
And to add insult to injury, tomorrow I can watch Palace play a FA Cup semi-final at Wembley. I just know they are going to beat a Chelsea team that is knackered and disappointed after their exit from the Champions League.
Probably the perfect result for charlton that won’t let anyone from TS down to end the season with a dilutional viewpoint that this can continue into next season and if it stays the same it can be sorted out if we have another Nigel Adkins type start
General football point here. When we look and try to decide whether a player has touched the ball before fouling the man, surely that touch has to deflect the ball in some way. If the ball remains under the control of the fouled player surely it is a pen irrespective of a micro touch if indeed there was one.
If you’re talking about the Dodson incident, I thought he slipped as he went to play the ball.
Would give a left bollock to never see this god awful inept team ever again. So bored of them all.
A left bollock or THE left bollock? How many are there?
Also would carry a bit more weight if you had said “my left bollock” than just a generic “a” left one, as clearly the former would involve personal loss rather than the latter, which could be any old unfortunate being debolloxed
Don't think anyone feels he should be, but CAN be adequate cover.
Sadly he was outplayed by the bigger, stronger faster Stockton.
Agreed, but its also fair that his best games are generally away where we tend to concede possession and have less exposure on the break with the MF out of position as they tend to sit back and break. At home the back 3 are exposed by the break as we seem to try to force it, getting ourselves into all manner of shite positions, exposing Mr Pearce.
What bothers me is why with 6 games to go, with no risk in either direction, why doesn't JJ take the opportunity to experiment just a little bit?? Losing is never nice but it would be slightly more palatable if we learned something about a few players and different formations they can play - CBT as a conventional winger for example? Imagine what havoc he could cause if he wasn't being relied on as much for defensive duties (same can be said of DJ) you've just invested in the guy with a new contract, he is one we all know will DEFINITELY be here next year, so why not take the chance to play to his strengths and learn a little bit more.
If Connor needed a bit of a rest today, why not take the chance to play one up top and two conventional wingers just to see what they can do rather than just throw in Bairstow up front (who's head is clearly not here with us any longer) ?
I dunno... it just feels like JJ is just being stubborn and resistant to taking a risk.
I don't think we have brilliant players, we don't have a 11/12 or even 18/19 team.
However we are still massively underperforming against sides with a fraction of our budget. Whether it's the collective defensive ineptitude, lack of movement or lack of creativity, there's something seriously wrong with the coaching.
Other than CBT's runs down the left, we desperately lacked any quality in our play, resorting to optimistic crosses in or punts down the field. Very ordinary stuff.
Pretty awful and not surprising given that washington nor chuks were starting. Burstow simply isn’t strong enough nor hungry enough for this league. The defence unsurprisingly were too slow in going forward and too slow in keeping up with their strikers (who by the way showed us how to strike the ball) Too many slow defenders mean we don’t keep a clean sheet. The passing was inconsistent. It will be no surprise to see big changes in the summer and the development of a way of playing football that is not as predictable as this
JJ: "It’s a huge summer that we have to get right because there is a real core of something good and that, if we had the right types in the right positions, we have got a great opportunity.”
One player can hold his head up after that - CBT. The rest can do one.
Here comes the same comment I write every week it seems. Why is there such a huge gap between the wing backs and back 3? Why do we collectively back off when any opposition carry the ball towards us? Why are we still playing 3-5-2?
The main thing to consider is that we have lost 20 games in league one. Shameful.
CBT was responsible for their first goal - he really isn't a wing-back.
Saw nothing of the match thread & no comments on here so far. Checked score @ 1-3 & team. I'm sure there's been discussion but can someone tell me why a chelsea player who has done nothing since leaving us was picked to start the game today when we have youngsters that could have been given a run out ? I just don't get it.
One player can hold his head up after that - CBT. The rest can do one.
Here comes the same comment I write every week it seems. Why is there such a huge gap between the wing backs and back 3? Why do we collectively back off when any opposition carry the ball towards us? Why are we still playing 3-5-2?
The main thing to consider is that we have lost 20 games in league one. Shameful.
CBT was responsible for their first goal - he really isn't a wing-back.
To start blaming CBT for their goal is very very harsh. He is being played out of position & you can see that his natural ability is to attack.....not to defend. He was MOTM and wouldnt blame him at all if his defensive duties let him down.
At this rate we might as well play Stockley at Centre Half because of his height.
We were sloppy and unprofessional. Some players were already on the beach. Movement in front of the ball and short passing was non existent at times. Need to be a lot more ruthless both on and off the pitch.
Morgan started like a new man. Going forward and first time passes. Then reverted to type. Dawdled over to take the corner in the 2 minutes of first half injury time.
Stockley does not deserve to be in the team on that performance.
I’ve seen a lot better displays than today but I didn’t really expect anything to be honest. Our season never got started and petered out without a whimper. When Morecambe supporters are giving it the olé on 60 odd minutes you know your place in this league. I don’t expect to see a display that Barcelona would put their name to but I do expect to footballers who at least look like they are professionals. I haven’t a clue who should stay and who should go, the entire team look so disjointed and so devoid of anything like a game plan, it’s hard to see who has talent and who hasn’t. If it weren’t sunny and warm today it would have been a really miserable afternoon. I’d love to have their number 9 (Stockton?) in our team next year but I think there will be a few clubs wanting his services.
Given their precarious position in the league, I thought Morecambe would be compelled to park the bus after they scored.
Sadly, there was no need. They just had to play their normal game. Whether it be 0-1, 0-2, 1-2, 1-3 or 2-3. We didn't really scare them, and that is what worries me.
JJ: "It’s a huge summer that we have to get right because there is a real core of something good and that, if we had the right types in the right positions, we have got a great opportunity.”
Is there?
That's the worry for me. I don't think he knows how bad it is
Defeats will help those running the show to realise that there have to be changes. A few meaningless wins at this stage of the season only likely to paper over cracks that are so horribly evident to us all. The immediate question has to be whether the manager stays s much of what happens in the close season depends on that
Do you have any faith that those "running the show" have any idea what exactly is wrong & how to put it right ? We have a lot to be grateful to sandgaard for but I don't believe we'll go anywhere with him as owner UNLESS he steps back & lets football people run the club.
So much over reaction at times on here. Yeah we weren't great at times today, calling out Stockly... Come on. Guy is trying to play through the pain and is still scoring regularly.
You can see JFC is better than the rest of the midfield. He does something so simple that no else seems to do... Pass and move, and makes himself available... Gilby could learn a thing or two from him. Shame we gifted them the goal as otherwise we'd have got something out of that. Looking forward to the summer to be honest in the hope they get it more right this time around!
I doubt Gilbey now has the necessary skills or attitude to learn, better to try with those from the Academy or elsewhere who do
Got up this morning with the full intention of going to the game. But my stint in the garden cutting back the Ivy took longer than I thought it would so I gave it a miss and watch online instead. Honestly, the match was so boring and hardly captured my attention, I started watching A place in the Country which featured a couple from Charlton looking for a place on the Kent and Sussex borders. As for the game … Meh. Can’t wait for the season to be over. Will I renew my ST next year? Right now I’m in two minds. Fucking awful, this Charlton team
same appalling shite and we cannot beat inferior teams at home. we should be in 12th position today and will probably up up 18th. it’s time our Rock n Roll owner with big ideas put his money where his mouth is, this team is 70% Shite.!!!! very disappointing to say the least.!
JJ: "It’s a huge summer that we have to get right because there is a real core of something good and that, if we had the right types in the right positions, we have got a great opportunity.”
Is there?
Well we're only one win behind the giants of Cheltenham, Accrington and Cambridge...
One player can hold his head up after that - CBT. The rest can do one.
Here comes the same comment I write every week it seems. Why is there such a huge gap between the wing backs and back 3? Why do we collectively back off when any opposition carry the ball towards us? Why are we still playing 3-5-2?
The main thing to consider is that we have lost 20 games in league one. Shameful.
Dobson was excellent all game, barring the one pass that went astray.
Saw nothing of the match thread & no comments on here so far. Checked score @ 1-3 & team. I'm sure there's been discussion but can someone tell me why a chelsea player who has done nothing since leaving us was picked to start the game today when we have youngsters that could have been given a run out ? I just don't get it.
This. Burstow has made his decision that his future lies elsewhere (to be fair understandably) and if there was ever a time to give the likes of Kanu or Leaburn a start it is surely now.
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Just as I finally start to warm to MacGillivray he goes and costs us a goal with a stupid throw out; I hope all those who said last week that Pearce should be a mainstay in our defence next season finally realise that great player that he has been, he should be no-where near our first team on a regular basis; Morgan and Gilbey were once again dire.
And JJ's continual playing of this 3-5-2 formation is surly going to cost him his job sooner or later. These players can't play it. And I very much doubt TS is going to bring in a near new team to enable us to do so.
And to add insult to injury, tomorrow I can watch Palace play a FA Cup semi-final at Wembley. I just know they are going to beat a Chelsea team that is knackered and disappointed after their exit from the Champions League.
These are not great times to put it mildly.
Don't think anyone feels he should be, but CAN be adequate cover.
Sadly he was outplayed by the bigger, stronger faster Stockton.
Also would carry a bit more weight if you had said “my left bollock” than just a generic “a” left one, as clearly the former would involve personal loss rather than the latter, which could be any old unfortunate being debolloxed
If Connor needed a bit of a rest today, why not take the chance to play one up top and two conventional wingers just to see what they can do rather than just throw in Bairstow up front (who's head is clearly not here with us any longer) ?
I dunno... it just feels like JJ is just being stubborn and resistant to taking a risk.
However we are still massively underperforming against sides with a fraction of our budget. Whether it's the collective defensive ineptitude, lack of movement or lack of creativity, there's something seriously wrong with the coaching.
Other than CBT's runs down the left, we desperately lacked any quality in our play, resorting to optimistic crosses in or punts down the field. Very ordinary stuff.
Is there?
At this rate we might as well play Stockley at Centre Half because of his height.
Stockley does not deserve to be in the team on that performance.
Pearce should hang up his boots tonight.
I don’t expect to see a display that Barcelona would put their name to but I do expect to footballers who at least look like they are professionals. I haven’t a clue who should stay and who should go, the entire team look so disjointed and so devoid of anything like a game plan, it’s hard to see who has talent and who hasn’t.
If it weren’t sunny and warm today it would have been a really miserable afternoon.
I’d love to have their number 9 (Stockton?) in our team next year but I think there will be a few clubs wanting his services.
Sadly, there was no need. They just had to play their normal game. Whether it be 0-1, 0-2, 1-2, 1-3 or 2-3. We didn't really scare them, and that is what worries me.
we should be in 12th position today and will probably up up 18th.
it’s time our Rock n Roll owner with big ideas put his money where his mouth is,
this team is 70% Shite.!!!!
very disappointing to say the least.!