For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.
Off you go then
Can I take it that this witless remark indicates that you think otherwise?
You’ve got at least half a brain so I’m sure you can work it out.
I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.
For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.
Off you go then
Can I take it that this witless remark indicates that you think otherwise?
You’ve got at least half a brain so I’m sure you can work it out.
I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.
It also says you need a relevant degree and to be at least working towards your UEFA B licence.........
Which require years and years of study and experience.
For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.
Off you go then
Can I take it that this witless remark indicates that you think otherwise?
You’ve got at least half a brain so I’m sure you can work it out.
I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.
It also says you need a relevant degree and to be at least working towards your UEFA B licence.........
Which require years and years of study and experience.
For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.
Just to add. Over the last 12 years, I've worked at 2x Premier league clubs and can confirm that this is just wrong.
So you need a whole brain and/or maximal training? I fail to see how from the job descriptions personally.
I mean, if I was interviewing for this position and promised to use my "whole brain" to fulfil the role, I wouldn't hold my breath on a callback. As I say, I have experience/worked with people in these roles first-hand for a number of years and can confirm that you were not correct in your original post. Not going to comment anymore as it's not fair on the thread.
The ‘flushing out a leak’ theory is interesting that’s suggested in above posts. I think stuff will always leak from all clubs but I bet it still irritates TS who seems to like having the attention.
I guess we’ll find out next week when TS appears.
TS next week...."The new manager is....*drumroll*.....
For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.
Off you go then
Can I take it that this witless remark indicates that you think otherwise?
You’ve got at least half a brain so I’m sure you can work it out.
I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.
It also says you need a relevant degree and to be at least working towards your UEFA B licence.........
Which require years and years of study and experience.
And you really think not having those things will prevent someone being able to do the role as it is described there in reality? That somehow not having those things makes you magically incapable of performing what sounds like a very basic role with little that can't be picked up within a week or so of doing it?
Chris Powell has never had it so good. He works for England and Spurs without the pressure of picking the team. Does he look like an idiot to give that up ? It's a non story but fills some space while we contemplate reasons why the Charlton Managers job comes with so much baggage.
With JJ gone who is the conduit between the players and the manager or the owner. For 12 years it was Jackson and even as manager he had their backs. Until he realised that the quality was ephermal and he struggled as he needed to make distance from mate to gaffer. TBF JJ did drop players that had backed him.
Done deal ? Wouldn't be the first time that an experienced journalist had a false start with that claim.
For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.
Off you go then
Can I take it that this witless remark indicates that you think otherwise?
You’ve got at least half a brain so I’m sure you can work it out.
I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.
It also says you need a relevant degree and to be at least working towards your UEFA B licence.........
Which require years and years of study and experience.
And you really think not having those things will prevent someone being able to do the role as it is described there in reality? That somehow not having those things makes you magically incapable of performing what sounds like a very basic role with little that can't be picked up within a week or so of doing it?
For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.
Just to add. Over the last 12 years, I've worked at 2x Premier league clubs and can confirm that this is just wrong.
So you need a whole brain and/or maximal training? I fail to see how from the job descriptions personally.
I mean, if I was interviewing for this position and promised to use my "whole brain" to fulfil the role, I wouldn't hold my breath on a callback. As I say, I have experience/worked with people in these roles first-hand for a number of years and can confirm that you were not correct in your original post. Not going to comment anymore as it's not fair on the thread.
Why would you even think that is something anyone would say in a job interview and what point are you trying to illustrate?
It's not fair on the thread for you to not actually explain why it is you need to be a polymath to do basic data analysis for a football club.
For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.
Off you go then
Can I take it that this witless remark indicates that you think otherwise?
You’ve got at least half a brain so I’m sure you can work it out.
I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.
It also says you need a relevant degree and to be at least working towards your UEFA B licence.........
Which require years and years of study and experience.
And you really think not having those things will prevent someone being able to do the role as it is described there in reality? That somehow not having those things makes you magically incapable of performing what sounds like a very basic role with little that can't be picked up within a week or so of doing it?
What sounds like? Talk me through a "day in the life" then?
Chris Powell has never had it so good. He works for England and Spurs without the pressure of picking the team. Does he look like an idiot to give that up ?
100% NO
After the last Charlton owner he worked under, I don’t think he would fancy that scenario again (albeit with lesser aggro this time - I think!!)
Bradley Pritchard was a football analyst before he realised he could out run most of the team and had a trial. He works in the City now so doubt we can afford him. Perhaps he could be Manager as well as checking out who is flagging with their stats.
This is all dragging on and getting a bit silly now. It seems highly likely that Ben Garner has got the job. If TS is playing silly buggers to delay the announcement until he is in the country next week then he risks making himself look foolish if after all these denials he then announces Garner.
I must confess that I had not heard of Ben Garner, but looking at his credentials, I think he may be a good appointment. I think it is particularly important that he brings his own coaching team with him - we need a complete clear out and a completely new approach.
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down Letting the days go by, water flowing underground Into the blue again, into the silent water Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground
For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.
Off you go then
Can I take it that this witless remark indicates that you think otherwise?
You’ve got at least half a brain so I’m sure you can work it out.
I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.
It also says you need a relevant degree and to be at least working towards your UEFA B licence.........
Which require years and years of study and experience.
You’re all arguing over the performance analyst role. Click the link to the Spurs recruitment analyst position instead. No relevant degree or UEFA B license required.
Back on thread, yesterdays 'non announcement' as it turned out, wasn't universally greeted with enthusiasm. Anyone would have thought Alex Rae was getting the nod!!! However, since then, some initial sceptics on here, myself included, have warmed to idea of Ben Garner being our head coach, in my case so much so that I'd be more worried if it wasn't him now as the longer the search goes on, the smaller the pool we're fishing in, or so it would seem.
I wonder how many others have come round to this way of thinking, or is the court of public opinion here and elsewhere still firmly in the "no's have it" camp, assuming it was before. What say you?
Back on thread, yesterdays 'non announcement' as it turned out, wasn't universally greeted with enthusiasm. Anyone would have thought Alex Rae was getting the nod!!! However, since then, some initial sceptics on here, myself included, have warmed to idea of Ben Garner being our head coach, in my case so much so that I'd be more worried if it wasn't him now as the longer the search goes on, the smaller the pool we're fishing in, or so it would seem.
I wonder how many others have come round to this way of thinking, or is the court of public opinion here and elsewhere still firmly in the "no's have it" camp, assuming it was before. What say you?
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I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.
Which require years and years of study and experience.
As I say, I have experience/worked with people in these roles first-hand for a number of years and can confirm that you were not correct in your original post.
Not going to comment anymore as it's not fair on the thread.
And you really think not having those things will prevent someone being able to do the role as it is described there in reality? That somehow not having those things makes you magically incapable of performing what sounds like a very basic role with little that can't be picked up within a week or so of doing it?
He works for England and Spurs without the pressure of picking the team. Does he look like an idiot to give that up ? It's a non story but fills some space while we contemplate reasons why the Charlton Managers job comes with so much baggage.
With JJ gone who is the conduit between the players and the manager or the owner. For 12 years it was Jackson and even as manager he had their backs. Until he realised that the quality was ephermal and he struggled as he needed to make distance from mate to gaffer. TBF JJ did drop players that had backed him.
Done deal ? Wouldn't be the first time that an experienced journalist had a false start with that claim.
Why would you even think that is something anyone would say in a job interview and what point are you trying to illustrate?
It's not fair on the thread for you to not actually explain why it is you need to be a polymath to do basic data analysis for a football club.
No I have no idea either......
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/94159/martin-data-coaching-etc-etc#latest
Typical. Just as I was writing an extensive diatribe on a day in the life of a basic data analyst: A Polymath Story.
Anyway, so Chris Powell coming back sounds like a terrible idea.
Perhaps he could be Manager as well as checking out who is flagging with their stats.
I must confess that I had not heard of Ben Garner, but looking at his credentials, I think he may be a good appointment. I think it is particularly important that he brings his own coaching team with him - we need a complete clear out and a completely new approach.
Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again, into the silent water
Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground
I wonder how many others have come round to this way of thinking, or is the court of public opinion here and elsewhere still firmly in the "no's have it" camp, assuming it was before. What say you?