I thought this topic was done to death a few months ago. TS stated somewhere that MS identified the players, SG negotiated the transfer fee and contracts and TS signed it off
Manager identifies the players and positions he wants and SG team does the rest …
precisely what esm says ts said above
Not quite Billy, I said MS identifies the players not the manager.
Take no notice of what RonnieMoore says, he is a know nothing plum.
Take notice of Alan Curbishley then or you not taking notice what he says because it don’t fit in with what you want to hear
Or take notice of Thomas or some dick head in bexley who doesn't know whether to scratch his watch or wind his arse?
The delay is because we are having to wait until after the CL final. Then we can interview Klopp & announce it next week.
Genius me.
That can't be right.
South London Press 27.05.2022
***THOMAS SANDGUAARD EXCLUSIVE***
Thomas Sandguaard has been searching for a new manager since Johnny Jackson was sacked two weeks ago.
He has spoken to many quality candidates and despite existing Liverpool Manager, Jurgen Klopp asking if Charlton could wait until after the Champions League Final is over, before discussing terms, Thomas Sandguaard has thanked Mr Klopp for his expression of interest, but advised that Charlton are aiming slightly higher than that.
All the non-season ticket holders on threatening to return their season tickets on Twitter is making my skin crawl. We, as a fanbase serious need humbling
How does a non-season ticket holder return a season ticket they don't have?
Exactly - I think it was an ironic observation on the nature of empty gestures.
When Airman ‘likes’ that post it scares me , we’ve got another nutbag , let’s hope he’s more useful than that goalkeeping coach from Swindon’s nutsack .
We have "known" that Martin is in charge of recruitment and many of us have raised it as a massive red flag. The proof of the pudding will of course be in the eating (happy with that @Henry Irving) but it is a big concern.
With the back ground of that there is little point employing a "manager", be it Adkins, Taylor, Warburton or Duff.
Whilst I don't buy into the buzz word bingo that is a young, hungry, progressive coach, thatnis exactly what we need, because of the way the club is run.
Mmmmmm……"I have my doubts that Martin is actually “in charge” of recruitment. On paper it may read that way but I don’t buy that.
Why does Thomas keep saying he is?
Well…..I have only seen/heard him described as head of player recruitment analytics, which is a very different thing. Do you know better?
Sandgaard has pretty much said so, yes. He's the head of the analytics, then does the scouting with Steve Gallen (who is the primary negotiator). If Martin isn't in charge of the recruitment, who is?
Steve Gallen
A wise man once said
"Plus TS has already said he would never interfere with the manager concerning team selection or tactics that’s why he employs a manager because he got no interest in being a manager himself … but as usual people don’t listen"
Yet the same wise man doesn't listen when Thomas makes it clear Gallen just does the negotiation.
Who is that wise man, you ask? Colin the fucking clown. Make your mind up!!
This Palace thing really irritates me. Yes I dislike them as a club and their fans intensely but for gods sake hating employees is ludicrous. Worth remembering that Palace as much as it hurts to say it are exactly what we should be trying to emulate. They are literally light years ahead of us. Garner worked for them during a successful spell. That’s a positive for us if he comes. Hate Garner for his Palace connection and I’d expect the same hatred for Chris Powell ? No. Thought not.
It’s quite weird really, I don’t even really hate Palace at all, no point really seeing how many of their lot we have had over the years, Pardew, Dowie, Whyte etc.
To me Palace are like the annoying neighbour that mows his lawn at 5PM on a Sunday, it’s irritating but nothing more really.
For me, my hatred is saved for the New Cross branch of the EDL - AKA Millwall Football Club, just can’t put into words my hatred for that lot, the worst of the worst.
If we’d have appointed Neil Harris then that would have been my lot until he left.
For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
This needs context.
If he was at the training ground and saw a lacklustre group of players who were not putting a shift in then he’s more than got a right to ask for more surely?
If he was there to effectively ask JJ to try something different in training then that wouldn’t be on.
Context please.
Is he right to question training at all if he’s just turned up without a clue what the coaches and staff have asked the players to do that day or how close to a previous or upcoming game it is? Martin Sandgaard is nowhere near qualified to even be near a first team coaching session, let alone questioning experienced and qualified coaches.
Or he might simply have been there learning and seeing more of what goes on at professional football club on a day to day basis. Getting a flavour of what goes on at the training ground the vibe, dressing room banter maybe, just the feel of the place. If I was in his position I would most certainly want to know more about everything that goes on at the club (within reason), including attending some training sessions and the day to day running of Sparrows Lane. Just another way of looking at it, which excludes any conspiracy theories. He has every right to be there as long as he doesn’t interfere, which I can only assume he hasn’t.
The entire point and discussion is that that’s exactly what he tried to do.
Did he ask questions or did he try to influence forcibly or just in passing. We all know there are so many ways of a conversation being processed, through tone of voice or brevity. Once the conversation is then passed on word for word to a third party but with an entirely different vocal inflection it can have varying interpretation. I realise I’m being a bit anal here but it’s quite possibly the case that some comment’s have been taken too literally. A touch of Chinees whispers perhaps?
Apparently he took one look & said "Absolute Rubbish" Now what kind of idiot would say that without giving reasons why ?
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
This needs context.
If he was at the training ground and saw a lacklustre group of players who were not putting a shift in then he’s more than got a right to ask for more surely?
If he was there to effectively ask JJ to try something different in training then that wouldn’t be on.
Context please.
What right does he have to involve himself on training effort, or lack of? He’s an analyst, not his remit
He’s barely an analyst. He’s only an analyst because daddy said so. I manage a team of data analysts. He wouldn’t even get an interview anywhere else.
You know this how ?
Take a look at Martin Sandgaard’s Linked IN profile.
Its an absolute cringe feat, the guy has been working for his Daddy for 16 years.
He may know plenty about the medical instruments field but he knows nothing about football.
Its a very weird obsession about what MS does or doesnt do. Honestly, it really is.
Er…no, it’s not weird at all.
Recruitment is THE most critical aspect of running a football club.
We have given a critical role to the owners son who has zero football experience or contacts.
If people can’t see a problem there it’s because they don’t want to see it.
Giving jobs to you kids is a really, really stupid idea, it does them no good and wreaks havoc across the organisation, not just because of their incompetence but because you are short circuiting the chain of command.
How many people will stand up to Martin Sandgaard knowing he will run straight to Daddy? That results in bad decisions.
Anyone who thinks that having the owner’s unqualified son in a position of authority in the football set-up is remotely sensible is clearly capable of any mental gymnastics necessary to believe what they want to believe. It’s the same delusional thinking which has sought to justify the spivs, Duchatelet and ESI. It doesn’t of itself make Thomas Sandgaard the same as any of those, but it’s unlikely to be a good thing.
We all want things to be better and to get out of this shitty division, but we are here because of a succession of toxic owners, not toxic fans. As long as the club continues to fail there will be people looking for explanations. They are not the problem.
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The delay is because we are having to wait until after the CL final. Then we can interview Klopp & announce it next week.
Genius me.
South London Press
27.05.2022
***THOMAS SANDGUAARD EXCLUSIVE***
Thomas Sandguaard has been searching for a new manager since Johnny Jackson was sacked two weeks ago.
He has spoken to many quality candidates and despite existing Liverpool Manager, Jurgen Klopp asking if Charlton could wait until after the Champions League Final is over, before discussing terms, Thomas Sandguaard has thanked Mr Klopp for his expression of interest, but advised that Charlton are aiming slightly higher than that.
The search continues.....
"Plus TS has already said he would never interfere with the manager concerning team selection or tactics that’s why he employs a manager because he got no interest in being a manager himself … but as usual people don’t listen"
Yet the same wise man doesn't listen when Thomas makes it clear Gallen just does the negotiation.
Who is that wise man, you ask? Colin the fucking clown. Make your mind up!!
It’s going to be Carlo Ancelotti.
To me Palace are like the annoying neighbour that mows his lawn at 5PM on a Sunday, it’s irritating but nothing more really.
For me, my hatred is saved for the New Cross branch of the EDL - AKA Millwall Football Club, just can’t put into words my hatred for that lot, the worst of the worst.
If we’d have appointed Neil Harris then that would have been my lot until he left.
Its an absolute cringe feat, the guy has been working for his Daddy for 16 years.
He may know plenty about the medical instruments field but he knows nothing about football.
Recruitment is THE most critical aspect of running a football club.
We have given a critical role to the owners son who has zero football experience or contacts.
If people can’t see a problem there it’s because they don’t want to see it.
Giving jobs to you kids is a really, really stupid idea, it does them no good and wreaks havoc across the organisation, not just because of their incompetence but because you are short circuiting the chain of command.
How many people will stand up to Martin Sandgaard knowing he will run straight to Daddy? That results in bad decisions.
Its a huge problem.