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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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Pray tell, I've not heard that one?RonnieMoore said:
Washington was other issues not football ..addick1956 said:As the first month of close season ends we are now further from our recruitment and preseason goal than we were at Ipswich.
Meanwhile Conor Washington has successfully got promoted to the Championship because he wasn't good enough for League 1.1 -
I know a coach who went to Man City to coach there U12's, I heard recently he is now assistant coach to their U18's. He was aloof and difficult to talk too compared to a lot of the other young coaches. Maybe being harsh and concise with players got him the job at City. No comedy and flicking of ears.
I haven't been critical of Ben Garner ever since his name popped up. Sounds similar to Michael Beale ( got into coaching young) other than Beale has worked with more gifted footballers but Beale has dived in and seen how being number 1 is so difficult as you take the flack more than coaches.0 -
I’m guessing Pep but that’s because he’s a football coach and Martin isn’t.seth plum said:Who would do the better coaching session with Charlton players, Pep or Martin?1 -
Do you mean Garner has “dived in” ?soapboxsam said:I know a coach who went to Man City to coach there U12's, I heard recently he is now assistant coach to their U18's. He was aloof and difficult to talk too compared to a lot of the other young coaches. Maybe being harsh and concise with players got him the job at City. No comedy and flicking of ears.
I haven't been critical of Ben Garner ever since his name popped up. Sounds similar to Michael Beale ( got into coaching young) other than Beale has worked with more gifted footballers but Beale has dived in and seen how being number 1 is so difficult as you take the flack more than coaches.0 -
……but, local knowledge innit.ShootersHillGuru said:
I’m guessing Pep but that’s because he’s a football coach and Martin isn’t.seth plum said:Who would do the better coaching session with Charlton players, Pep or Martin?0 -
Love this. Couldn’t agree more.Themightyath2 said:Charlton fans…
“this season and the football we’ve played is the worst I’ve ever seen”
”I can’t believe we’ve sacked the manager and let x players go - what is he thinking”
“Garner - ridiculous decision, let’s protest”
”Why haven’t we appointed Garner - let’s get Garner in now!”
…and the above comes from the same people!
Everyone needs to relax and enjoy the ride.We have a club to support, the sun is shining, and compared to others in the world we don’t really have much to moan about.Since when has being a Charlton fan ever been easy!? Stop moaning, buy a season ticket and get behind whoever pulls on a Charlton shirt at the end of July!
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For very good specific reasons I’ve always been wary of Bob Whitehand and his hot takes, and I’m not about to change my mind on the back of that one. Not everyone in football at the time would speak very positively about our Bob either, so lets just park this on the balance sheet opposite more positive feedback from people In Football.Scoham said:
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I throw my hat into the ring
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As somebody that doesn’t know bob, it does seem he only pipes up when negative things are being put out there. Not so much when things are going ok. Now that could just be that I’ve missed various posts of optimism, and I’d apologise before hand if I’m wrong.PragueAddick said:
For very good specific reasons I’ve always been wary of Bob Whitehand and his hot takes, and I’m not about to change my mind on the back of that one. Not everyone in football at the time would speak very positively about our Bob either, so lets just park this on the balance sheet opposite more positive feedback from people In Football.Scoham said:4 -
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Yeah, I don’t know if it’s the same reason, but I’m of the same mind as youPragueAddick said:
For very good specific reasons I’ve always been wary of Bob Whitehand and his hot takes, and I’m not about to change my mind on the back of that one. Not everyone in football at the time would speak very positively about our Bob either, so lets just park this on the balance sheet opposite more positive feedback from people In Football.Scoham said:6 -
I think the same can be said for a lot of fans from a lot of clubs tbh. Fans are never really happy unless they have something to moan about. I know a Man City fan (from well before the money rolled in) and he moans about Pep not being the right man because he hasn’t delivered the champions league! FFS they were bumming around in the very same division as us not that long ago.Themightyath2 said:Charlton fans…
“this season and the football we’ve played is the worst I’ve ever seen”
”I can’t believe we’ve sacked the manager and let x players go - what is he thinking”
“Garner - ridiculous decision, let’s protest”
”Why haven’t we appointed Garner - let’s get Garner in now!”
…and the above comes from the same people!
Everyone needs to relax and enjoy the ride.We have a club to support, the sun is shining, and compared to others in the world we don’t really have much to moan about.Since when has being a Charlton fan ever been easy!? Stop moaning, buy a season ticket and get behind whoever pulls on a Charlton shirt at the end of July!
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I'm a few pages behind but it is unreal how many people are trying to convince themselves that Martin Sandgaard is in any way qualified for the job he holds at Charlton13
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Trouble was the City guy from UAE really was a multi Billionaire with his own oil wells where our man from the middle East only had a credit limit of a couple of Grand on his card.
Do it cover the drinks on that night out in London ?0 -
Maybe Garner is on holiday. Swindon season only finished a week and a half ago. I'd prefer him good to go when he joins and besides, it wouldn't be much of an unveiling without the new head coach there.IAgree said:This appointment sounds as if it’s done deal, the big question is why hasn’t it been confirmed? If the answer turns out to be to allow the owner to attend the unveiling that would be very concerning given the amount of work required to field a competitive squad.
Either way there is no reason why the talks about new players can't have already begun.
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Alice, Alice, who the fuck is Alice ?addick1956 said:
Apparently upon leaving the said Charltonised scapegoat usually recovers and even eventually gets promoted to the Premiershit or or worst the Championship.Gribbo said:
Do you mean they get Charltonised?ricky_otto said:
It’s a good point - most fail when they come to Charlton!The Red Robin said:Some managers fail at certain clubs. Look at Brendan Rodgers with Reading. Plenty were ready to dismiss him as a coach after that.
We can test this with Sarr and Washington..others such as Francis have flourished or like Williams, they have
reserected their career and even kept their International career Alice.
We can also watch Matthews and Gunter , even Famewo as they recover from the effects of playing for Charlton. Taylor also.16 -
..pretty sure it was the clubs credit card that picked up the tab on that occassionsoapboxsam said:Trouble was the City guy from UAE really was a multi Billionaire with his own oil wells where our man from the middle East only had a credit limit of a couple of Grand on his card.
Do it cover the drinks on that night out in London ?0 -
Well it might promote stabilityshine166 said:
Tbh if its done, not announcing it until next week makes zero difference to player recruitment.IAgree said:This appointment sounds as if it’s done deal, the big question is why hasn’t it been confirmed? If the answer turns out to be to allow the owner to attend the unveiling that would be very concerning given the amount of work required to field a competitive squad.0 -
Can't see that idea catching on any time soonIAgree said:
Well it might promote stabilityshine166 said:
Tbh if its done, not announcing it until next week makes zero difference to player recruitment.IAgree said:This appointment sounds as if it’s done deal, the big question is why hasn’t it been confirmed? If the answer turns out to be to allow the owner to attend the unveiling that would be very concerning given the amount of work required to field a competitive squad.1 -
LargeAddick said:
Thought that whoever it is they won’t have input into transfers, down to MS and his Black Box.JamesSeed said:Players aren’t back for a bit so I’m not sure we’re massively behind schedule are we? You’d imagine if it’s Garner he’ll have input into transfers.
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I thought they said that the manager says what he needs, they plug the data into the black box and then discuss between TS, MS, SG & Manager which ones they should try to sign?1
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Pretty sure it wasn'tJonT_Abs said:
..pretty sure it was the clubs credit card that picked up the tab on that occassionsoapboxsam said:Trouble was the City guy from UAE really was a multi Billionaire with his own oil wells where our man from the middle East only had a credit limit of a couple of Grand on his card.
Do it cover the drinks on that night out in London ?2 -
I've just realised that the TS master plan for success is to sack a manager who achieved 13th in League 1 after starting his tenure in the relegation zone and was quickly snapped up by the team that finished 23rd in the same league....
with a manager who finished 6th in the league below us and has no track record to suggest he will succeed at a higher level.
No wonder we are reluctant to announce it.5 -
Maybe it isn't a done deal maybe we have a shortlist of 3, that if in another job compensation has been agreed etc, but the owner wants to meet the candidates in the flesh prior to selecting one.
Probably not.0 -
I think it’s along those lines if not exactly that.cfgs said:Maybe it isn't a done deal maybe we have a shortlist of 3, that if in another job compensation has been agreed etc, but the owner wants to meet the candidates in the flesh prior to selecting one.
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No, no, no, no!grumpyaddick said:I've just realised that the TS master plan for success is to sack a manager who achieved 13th in League 1 after starting his tenure in the relegation zone and was quickly snapped up by the team that finished 23rd in the same league....
with a manager who finished 6th in the league below us and has no track record to suggest he will succeed at a higher level.
No wonder we are reluctant to announce it.You are supposed to come up with ever more contorted reasons why we will don’t have a manager, squad or qualified CEO! Then spin every poor decision, the long slow decline, poor performances and increasingly unpleasant atmosphere!
It is sunny after all!1 -
"If If's and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas".....if and WIOTOS...
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Probably something to do with Swindon being favourites for relegation at the start of the season, while Charlton were one of the favourites for reaching the play-offs. I should have thought.grumpyaddick said:I've just realised that the TS master plan for success is to sack a manager who achieved 13th in League 1 after starting his tenure in the relegation zone and was quickly snapped up by the team that finished 23rd in the same league....
with a manager who finished 6th in the league below us and has no track record to suggest he will succeed at a higher level.
No wonder we are reluctant to announce it.16 -
Ben Garner has a tenuous Charlton connection in that he was once mentored by Lennie Lawrence, but at that other place where we used to stand in the 'Half Hour Wait' enclosure during our years of exile.
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Maybe he thinks it's only fair to give equal opportunity to the one more name that will be added to the list of candidates after tonight's gameShootersHillGuru said:
I think it’s along those lines if not exactly that.cfgs said:Maybe it isn't a done deal maybe we have a shortlist of 3, that if in another job compensation has been agreed etc, but the owner wants to meet the candidates in the flesh prior to selecting one.
Probably not.0
