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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    I wont believe it until he posts the "big fish" thing 😂😂
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Sol Campbell in poll position for Swindon job whem vacant shortly.  Paul Tilsdale is second in line. 
    How many of us would have wanted Tissy 18 months - 2 years ago?
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    Usually when bookies suspend betting it is cut and dried.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    After the initial reaction when Garner was mentioned have people changed their thoughts now ? Would he be a decent signing or not ?
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    edited May 2022
    AndyG said:
    After the initial reaction when Garner was mentioned have people changed their thoughts now ? Would he be a decent signing or not ?
    I’ve no idea with Charlton any more. 

    Is Garner a smart up-and-coming coach who plays attractive, modern football, or a Palace reject who got the push from Bristol Rovers? 
    Is TS a good owner, or a power crazed dictator with a guitar who has installed his son as a sort of CEO? 
    Is Albie Morgan the worse midfielder we’ve got, or the man to lead us to the title?

    Think I’ll just enjoy the cricket this summer and forget about it for a bit.
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,665
    I don't particularly want Garner, but I'm willing to get behind him.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    AndyG said:
    After the initial reaction when Garner was mentioned have people changed their thoughts now ? Would he be a decent signing or not ?
    Yes he would be decent, I said so before he was mentioned.

    He wouldn't be my choice if I ran the club but they way the club is run he would be on my short list.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,255
    edited May 2022
    OOPS


  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,255
    edited May 2022
    I don't particularly want Garner, but I'm willing to get behind him.

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  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,255
    paulfox said:
    I don't particularly want Garner, but I'm willing to get behind him.
    Bring on the Kenneth Williams gif!!🤣
    If ever a quote deserved it, it was that one  :D 
  • paulg1947
    paulg1947 Posts: 224
    Valley11 said:
    AndyG said:
    After the initial reaction when Garner was mentioned have people changed their thoughts now ? Would he be a decent signing or not ?
    I’ve no idea with Charlton any more. 

    Is Garner a smart up-and-coming coach who plays attractive, modern football, or a Palace reject who got the push from Bristol Rovers? 
    Is TS a good owner, or a power crazed dictator with a guitar who has installed his son as a sort of CEO? 
    Is Albie Morgan the worse midfielder we’ve got, or the man to lead us to the title?

    Think I’ll just enjoy the cricket this summer and forget about it for a bit.
    Enjoy cricket ? mm. Is that a 'tongue in cheek' joke? Gee Charlton must be bad to watch.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,356
    edited May 2022
    ozaddick said:
    AndyG said:
    After the initial reaction when Garner was mentioned have people changed their thoughts now ? Would he be a decent signing or not ?
     I'll put my hand up and admit I thought it was a crap choice before doing any research, it was a case of who's Garner?? 

    I've since changed my stance on him, and if TS wants a young, upcoming manager who plays forward thinking attacking football, Garner certainly fits the bill. 

    I was pleasantly surprised of his mindset after listening to the 90+ minute interview he gave on a podcast, when he mentioned how he's studied a psychology and NLP, (neuro linguistic programming) that being the way humans develop pathways In the brain that certain thoughts and behaviours become habitual, and implements strategies that assist in achieving personal goals. 

    Swindons data record this past season is impressive, especially as they had 7 1st team players when he joined, and how he turned that squad into promotion challengers. 

    He's also been in the game long enough to have a good network, working at Premier league, and championship clubs as 1st team coach. 

    His time at Bristol was cut short, and he admits he didn't get things completely right, but he was asked to build the whole club culture, with plenty of behind the scenes work too. He stated he learnt a lot from the experience. 

    His training sessions are apparently meticulously planned, and he has different ways to educate the players on what he wants to achieve, learning lots from working in India. 

    He admits he feels he has to work harder to gain the trust of his squad, due to a short footballing  career, which had little success, I believe he has a drive and passion that more established managers may not, imho. 

    His stock is definitely on the rise, and I for one thinks he could very well be successful with us, IF Thomas and Co gets the right resources and building blocks in, including Garner's own coaching team signed too,  the recruitment right,  and IF it's done early so he can get to work in pre season to drive his message home before the league kicks off. A few IF's I know...

    It'll be a fresh start for us, one I think that's needed, it'll shake up the squad we've retained who've gotten used to the same faces and routines around the training ground for a few years, bar Adkins last season. 

    All of this is just my take on it, and him. To be honest, Im quite excited about him getting the job. It's a bold choice, but I think it's what we need. 
    Excellent post and mirrors what I think, once I saw the image that has been posted previously (will attach again for reminder) and heard him talk my mind was made up, you just cant fluke those kind of team traits/stats, especially at a lower level with a lower budget where you can’t cherry pick players.

    I genuinely believe he’s gonna be the manager to elevate Albies game and get the best out of Fraser. I’m excited to see what he can do with better players at his disposal. 
  • ozaddick said:
    AndyG said:
    After the initial reaction when Garner was mentioned have people changed their thoughts now ? Would he be a decent signing or not ?
     I'll put my hand up and admit I thought it was a crap choice before doing any research, it was a case of who's Garner?? 

    I've since changed my stance on him, and if TS wants a young, upcoming manager who plays forward thinking attacking football, Garner certainly fits the bill. 

    I was pleasantly surprised of his mindset after listening to the 90+ minute interview he gave on a podcast, when he mentioned how he's studied a psychology and NLP, (neuro linguistic programming) that being the way humans develop pathways In the brain that certain thoughts and behaviours become habitual, and implements strategies that assist in achieving personal goals. 

    Swindons data record this past season is impressive, especially as they had 7 1st team players when he joined, and how he turned that squad into promotion challengers. 

    He's also been in the game long enough to have a good network, working at Premier league, and championship clubs as 1st team coach. 

    His time at Bristol was cut short, and he admits he didn't get things completely right, but he was asked to build the whole club culture, with plenty of behind the scenes work too. He stated he learnt a lot from the experience. 

    His training sessions are apparently meticulously planned, and he has different ways to educate the players on what he wants to achieve, learning lots from working in India. 

    He admits he feels he has to work harder to gain the trust of his squad, due to a short footballing  career, which had little success, I believe he has a drive and passion that more established managers may not, imho. 

    His stock is definitely on the rise, and I for one thinks he could very well be successful with us, IF Thomas and Co gets the right resources and building blocks in, including Garner's own coaching team signed too,  the recruitment right,  and IF it's done early so he can get to work in pre season to drive his message home before the league kicks off. A few IF's I know...

    It'll be a fresh start for us, one I think that's needed, it'll shake up the squad we've retained who've gotten used to the same faces and routines around the training ground for a few years, bar Adkins last season. 

    All of this is just my take on it, and him. To be honest, Im quite excited about him getting the job. It's a bold choice, but I think it's what we need. 
    Couldn’t agree more 👍
  • Danlazzz
    Danlazzz Posts: 13
    LTKapal said:
    Rich wasn’t wrong though, was he? Rich said it was a signing that would raise eyebrows and be a signing of intent, which it should have been. We were signing a player who won player of the year for a side that just missed out on a play off place in the division above. Who wouldn’t be excited by that. 

    If we were to similarly go and sign Middlesbrough’s player of the year now, are you telling me that wouldn’t raise eyebrows and get people excited? 
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  • paulg1947 said:
    Valley11 said:
    AndyG said:
    After the initial reaction when Garner was mentioned have people changed their thoughts now ? Would he be a decent signing or not ?
    I’ve no idea with Charlton any more. 

    Is Garner a smart up-and-coming coach who plays attractive, modern football, or a Palace reject who got the push from Bristol Rovers? 
    Is TS a good owner, or a power crazed dictator with a guitar who has installed his son as a sort of CEO? 
    Is Albie Morgan the worse midfielder we’ve got, or the man to lead us to the title?

    Think I’ll just enjoy the cricket this summer and forget about it for a bit.
    Enjoy cricket ? mm. Is that a 'tongue in cheek' joke? Gee Charlton must be bad to watch.
    When you support Charlton at football and Sussex at cricket, Charlton is my chance to enjoy the good times nowadays.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    ozaddick said:
    AndyG said:
    After the initial reaction when Garner was mentioned have people changed their thoughts now ? Would he be a decent signing or not ?
     I'll put my hand up and admit I thought it was a crap choice before doing any research, it was a case of who's Garner?? 

    I've since changed my stance on him, and if TS wants a young, upcoming manager who plays forward thinking attacking football, Garner certainly fits the bill. 

    I was pleasantly surprised of his mindset after listening to the 90+ minute interview he gave on a podcast, when he mentioned how he's studied a psychology and NLP, (neuro linguistic programming) that being the way humans develop pathways In the brain that certain thoughts and behaviours become habitual, and implements strategies that assist in achieving personal goals. 

    Swindons data record this past season is impressive, especially as they had 7 1st team players when he joined, and how he turned that squad into promotion challengers. 

    He's also been in the game long enough to have a good network, working at Premier league, and championship clubs as 1st team coach. 

    His time at Bristol was cut short, and he admits he didn't get things completely right, but he was asked to build the whole club culture, with plenty of behind the scenes work too. He stated he learnt a lot from the experience. 

    His training sessions are apparently meticulously planned, and he has different ways to educate the players on what he wants to achieve, learning lots from working in India. 

    He admits he feels he has to work harder to gain the trust of his squad, due to a short footballing  career, which had little success, I believe he has a drive and passion that more established managers may not, imho. 

    His stock is definitely on the rise, and I for one thinks he could very well be successful with us, IF Thomas and Co gets the right resources and building blocks in, including Garner's own coaching team signed too,  the recruitment right,  and IF it's done early so he can get to work in pre season to drive his message home before the league kicks off. A few IF's I know...

    It'll be a fresh start for us, one I think that's needed, it'll shake up the squad we've retained who've gotten used to the same faces and routines around the training ground for a few years, bar Adkins last season. 

    All of this is just my take on it, and him. To be honest, Im quite excited about him getting the job. It's a bold choice, but I think it's what we need. 
    Excellent post and mirrors what I think, once I saw the image that has been posted previously (will attach again for reminder) and heard him talk my mind was made up, you just cant fluke those kind of team traits/stats, especially at a lower level with a lower budget where you can’t cherry pick players.

    I genuinely believe he’s gonna be the manager to elevate Albies game and get the best out of Fraser. I’m excited to see what he can do with better players at his disposal. 
    Well we can only hope, but it’s also possible he’ll be the manager to say that he hasn’t quite got what it takes, if we want to progress. He’s had more chances to prove himself than most young players get, but just when you think it might happen for him he tends to miss that final pass, or will fail to hit the target when shooting. Would be happy if Garner could get ten or twenty percent more out of him of course. 
  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,278
    As stated above, I think Fraser would be a vital cog in Garner's system. That's exciting. I think Chuks and CBT will also be workable, maybe even Kirk.

    I can't see how Stockley would fit in though.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    As stated above, I think Fraser would be a vital cog in Garner's system. That's exciting. I think Chuks and CBT will also be workable, maybe even Kirk.

    I can't see how Stockley would fit in though.
    Garner made good use of Davison at Swindon, a not dissimilar player.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited May 2022
    If it’s announced today I’ll be exactly 16 years after we appointed Iain Dowie. 

    That, as someone said on Twitter, was the beginning of the end.

    We can only hope Garner is the start of the new beginning.

     
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    As stated above, I think Fraser would be a vital cog in Garner's system. That's exciting. I think Chuks and CBT will also be workable, maybe even Kirk.

    I can't see how Stockley would fit in though.
    Garner made good use of Davison at Swindon, a not dissimilar player.
    Also will allow us to mix it up on occasion and when you cross a ball you want him in the middle.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    ozaddick said:
    AndyG said:
    After the initial reaction when Garner was mentioned have people changed their thoughts now ? Would he be a decent signing or not ?
     I'll put my hand up and admit I thought it was a crap choice before doing any research, it was a case of who's Garner?? 

    I've since changed my stance on him, and if TS wants a young, upcoming manager who plays forward thinking attacking football, Garner certainly fits the bill. 

    I was pleasantly surprised of his mindset after listening to the 90+ minute interview he gave on a podcast, when he mentioned how he's studied a psychology and NLP, (neuro linguistic programming) that being the way humans develop pathways In the brain that certain thoughts and behaviours become habitual, and implements strategies that assist in achieving personal goals. 

    Swindons data record this past season is impressive, especially as they had 7 1st team players when he joined, and how he turned that squad into promotion challengers. 

    He's also been in the game long enough to have a good network, working at Premier league, and championship clubs as 1st team coach. 

    His time at Bristol was cut short, and he admits he didn't get things completely right, but he was asked to build the whole club culture, with plenty of behind the scenes work too. He stated he learnt a lot from the experience. 

    His training sessions are apparently meticulously planned, and he has different ways to educate the players on what he wants to achieve, learning lots from working in India. 

    He admits he feels he has to work harder to gain the trust of his squad, due to a short footballing  career, which had little success, I believe he has a drive and passion that more established managers may not, imho. 

    His stock is definitely on the rise, and I for one thinks he could very well be successful with us, IF Thomas and Co gets the right resources and building blocks in, including Garner's own coaching team signed too,  the recruitment right,  and IF it's done early so he can get to work in pre season to drive his message home before the league kicks off. A few IF's I know...

    It'll be a fresh start for us, one I think that's needed, it'll shake up the squad we've retained who've gotten used to the same faces and routines around the training ground for a few years, bar Adkins last season. 

    All of this is just my take on it, and him. To be honest, Im quite excited about him getting the job. It's a bold choice, but I think it's what we need. 
    Excellent post and mirrors what I think, once I saw the image that has been posted previously (will attach again for reminder) and heard him talk my mind was made up, you just cant fluke those kind of team traits/stats, especially at a lower level with a lower budget where you can’t cherry pick players.

    I genuinely believe he’s gonna be the manager to elevate Albies game and get the best out of Fraser. I’m excited to see what he can do with better players at his disposal. 
    Very similar to the stats produced by Manning at MK Dons. Neither sides managed to get promoted. However it will be nice to see a team with an actual game plan, rather than looking totally disjointed and clueless. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    ozaddick said:
    AndyG said:
    After the initial reaction when Garner was mentioned have people changed their thoughts now ? Would he be a decent signing or not ?
     I'll put my hand up and admit I thought it was a crap choice before doing any research, it was a case of who's Garner?? 

    I've since changed my stance on him, and if TS wants a young, upcoming manager who plays forward thinking attacking football, Garner certainly fits the bill. 

    I was pleasantly surprised of his mindset after listening to the 90+ minute interview he gave on a podcast, when he mentioned how he's studied a psychology and NLP, (neuro linguistic programming) that being the way humans develop pathways In the brain that certain thoughts and behaviours become habitual, and implements strategies that assist in achieving personal goals. 

    Swindons data record this past season is impressive, especially as they had 7 1st team players when he joined, and how he turned that squad into promotion challengers. 

    He's also been in the game long enough to have a good network, working at Premier league, and championship clubs as 1st team coach. 

    His time at Bristol was cut short, and he admits he didn't get things completely right, but he was asked to build the whole club culture, with plenty of behind the scenes work too. He stated he learnt a lot from the experience. 

    His training sessions are apparently meticulously planned, and he has different ways to educate the players on what he wants to achieve, learning lots from working in India. 

    He admits he feels he has to work harder to gain the trust of his squad, due to a short footballing  career, which had little success, I believe he has a drive and passion that more established managers may not, imho. 

    His stock is definitely on the rise, and I for one thinks he could very well be successful with us, IF Thomas and Co gets the right resources and building blocks in, including Garner's own coaching team signed too,  the recruitment right,  and IF it's done early so he can get to work in pre season to drive his message home before the league kicks off. A few IF's I know...

    It'll be a fresh start for us, one I think that's needed, it'll shake up the squad we've retained who've gotten used to the same faces and routines around the training ground for a few years, bar Adkins last season. 

    All of this is just my take on it, and him. To be honest, Im quite excited about him getting the job. It's a bold choice, but I think it's what we need. 
    Excellent post and mirrors what I think, once I saw the image that has been posted previously (will attach again for reminder) and heard him talk my mind was made up, you just cant fluke those kind of team traits/stats, especially at a lower level with a lower budget where you can’t cherry pick players.

    I genuinely believe he’s gonna be the manager to elevate Albies game and get the best out of Fraser. I’m excited to see what he can do with better players at his disposal. 
    Very similar to the stats produced by Manning at MK Dons. Neither sides managed to get promoted. However it will be nice to see a team with an actual game plan, rather than looking totally disjointed and clueless. 
    Doesn’t prove you can’t get promoted with a possession style of course. Both would have gone up automatically with one more win. That could come down to one poor performance in which they lost 1-0 but should have scored 2 or 3.

    I don’t generally want tippy tappy football at the back but if it gets results and we’re one of the top scorers in the division then that’s very different to what we’ve seen before. Robinson and Peeters tried it but we didn’t have the players for it, especially not at the attacking end of the pitch. It could be great to watch if we get the right signings in.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,518
    edited May 2022
    Scoham said:
    If it’s announced today I’ll be exactly 16 years after we appointed Iain Dowie. 

    That, as someone said on Twitter, was the beginning of the end.

    We can only hope Garner is the start of the new beginning.

     

    Like the comment....the picture though, pass me the bucket please..🤢🤢🤢
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    At this stage I really don't care if we get promoted, just want to watch half decent football and not leave the ground depressed more often than not.