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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • Im the total opposite, I’d be happy with the worst football in the world, if it got us out of this league, ive had enough of league one. 
    Yeah but you don't have to go and watch it 😅
  • Scoham said:
    Doesn’t prove you can’t get promoted with a possession style of course. Both would have gone up automatically with one more win. That could come down to one poor performance in which they lost 1-0 but should have scored 2 or 3.

    I don’t generally want tippy tappy football at the back but if it gets results and we’re one of the top scorers in the division then that’s very different to what we’ve seen before. Robinson and Peeters tried it but we didn’t have the players for it, especially not at the attacking end of the pitch. It could be great to watch if we get the right signings in.
    I’d be happy if we could just pass to a red shirt (when we are playing in red of course!)
  • Very similar to the stats produced by Manning at MK Dons. Neither sides managed to get promoted. However it will be nice to see a team with an actual game plan, rather than looking totally disjointed and clueless. 
    Both managers who joined very late on though. Garner started two weeks before Swindon's first game with 7 players at his disposal and Manning started the day before MK Dons' second league match, so they both had to try and impress their style on a team in a very short space of time. In both cases I think if the season had gone on a week or two longer they might have made the automatics, so having a full pre-season to prepare might have been what they needed to go up automatically. Plus it's not like they failed completely, both got done in the Play-Offs, and we know full well that all form, ability and sense goes out the window with that nonsense. We finished 15 points ahead of Doncaster and had a two goal lead after two minutes of the second leg, but we still needed to get the luck on penalties to go up. I know people are getting very itchy about us not having a manager in yet but we're still a long, long way ahead of those appointments.
  • Both managers who joined very late on though. Garner started two weeks before Swindon's first game with 7 players at his disposal and Manning started the day before MK Dons' second league match, so they both had to try and impress their style on a team in a very short space of time. In both cases I think if the season had gone on a week or two longer they might have made the automatics, so having a full pre-season to prepare might have been what they needed to go up automatically. Plus it's not like they failed completely, both got done in the Play-Offs, and we know full well that all form, ability and sense goes out the window with that nonsense. We finished 15 points ahead of Doncaster and had a two goal lead after two minutes of the second leg, but we still needed to get the luck on penalties to go up. I know people are getting very itchy about us not having a manager in yet but we're still a long, long way ahead of those appointments.
    True, but as a caveat in Manning's case he didn't need to impose anything - their style was already baked-in
  • If ever a quote deserved it, it was that one  :D 
    I know I was chuckling to myself like a child!!😂
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  • Leuth said:
    True, but as a caveat in Manning's case he didn't need to impose anything - their style was already baked-in
    So what you’re saying is their owners chose a style of play and brought in players and a head coach to fit that?
  • shine166 said:
    Yeah but you don't have to go and watch it 😅
    Just have to ruin my weekend through sleep deprivation, why do we do it to ourselves 
  • Scoham said:
    So what you’re saying is their owners chose a style of play and brought in players and a head coach to fit that?
    I am probably the last person on this entire site who needs convincing of the benefits of this approach! 
  • shine166 said:
    At this stage I really don't care if we get promoted, just want to watch half decent football and not leave the ground depressed more often than not.
    I sometimes think the highest bonus should be for a home win, and for a home defeat the players should get a financial penalty.
    Not sure how this might work though.
  • Garner made good use of Davison at Swindon, a not dissimilar player.
    I think there's enough difference to say they are very different players. Stockley is an out and out target man and I can't see how he successfully starts in a 433. But if we can bring one in and have Stockley/Aneke as competition then we could be onto something. 
  • edited May 2022
    I'm so bored by this already. I can't believe it's taken so long. I'm pretty sure TS knew all along that JJ wasn't his man, so I thought he'd have a shortlist in mind already. Apparently I gave him far too much credit.
  • Chunes said:
    I'm so bored by this already. I can't believe it's taken so long. I'm pretty sure TS knew all along that JJ wasn't his man, so I thought he'd have a shortlist in mind already. Apparently I gave him far too much credit.
    I think it doesn’t take an awful lot of reading between the lines that he’s already got his man, but wants to be here to unveil him so they can get down to business together. I could be wrong but certainly my take on it. 

    I also think the clearly unwanted release of Garner’s name has worked in his favour a little bit as it’s given everyone a chance to get over their initial ‘WHO?! Moment’ do some research and see that as an appointment it makes sense and fits the promotion of youth and high pressing game that TS has been speaking about. 

    Am sure not everyone will be happy, but it’s Charlton - If everyone is happy something very strange has happened.
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  • That was our sliding doors moment.
    In a parallel universe Curbishley decides to stay at Cafc and Murray gives Alan the extra money that he gave to Dowie. Charlton not Leicester win the Premier and the FA cup  after keeping most of the talented youngsters. Captain Joe Gomez, Ademola Lookman, Nick Pope, Konsa and Joe Aribo all sign long contracts at Cafc and everyone's happy.
    Other than Golfie addick who states does Curbs need to retire in 2022 as Charlton only finish mid table in the Premier League.
    Happy Monday everyone!
  • I'm not sure about everyone, but I think the vast majority were very happy when Pardew was appointed.
    I wasn't, I remember cringing when his name started to be sung at the Wycombe debarcal.

    However that was because he was a slimy twat,  I did think he would do a better job than he did mind.

    IMO the only proper football manager, since Curbs, that has categorically failed on his own merits.
  • If 'performance measures' I. E league position etc are linked to contractual severance payments in the event of a sacking, no manager would agree to that, would they? 
  • If 'performance measures' I. E league position etc are linked to contractual severance payments in the event of a sacking, no manager would agree to that, would they? 
    Well Jackson did 
  • edited May 2022
    Davison is dismal , not dissimilar.  
    That's the point..he WAS dismal.. for us, but Garner found out how to make him tick and created a reasonable striker for how Swindon played, and played him consistently..
  • edited May 2022
    If 'performance measures' I. E league position etc are linked to contractual severance payments in the event of a sacking, no manager would agree to that, would they? 

    Good question:
    It's possible that If you are a coach and it's  your first managers job and many of your peer group when accumulating the coaching badges, including the A licence are up for the Job, then to get a foot on the management ladder you may consider it.
  • That's the point..he WAS dismal.. for us, but Garner found out how to make him tick and created a reasonable striker for how Swindon played, and played him consistently..
    Or life a league 2 club is easier?

  • Good question:
    It's possible that If you are a coach and it's  your first managers job and many of your peer group when accumulating the coaching badges, including the A licence are up for the Job, then to get a foot on the management ladder you may consider it.
    Always difficult in business to set performance related remuneration.  Normally a basic + bonus etc.  and the bonus bit is performance retated.  In Sales roles often a threat of getting fired if performance targets not met.  Any manager who agrees to peformance related conditions needs to agree up front what resopurces he will have...if Garner says I want a new player budget of xx million and we need a striker, central defender, right winger etc. and he gets that then fine (if he has a say in who) but otherwise he has a case to say he wasn't given the neccessary resources if the performance isn't met...not sure what Jacko's agreement was...
  • Cryptic clue from soapboxsam, Jack Shit has just entered the race at 8/1
    With nothing announced yet, I wondered if this guy's odds had drifted having phoned the club earlier for an update, only to be told "We don't know Jack Shit!" Perhaps no formal approach made yet! 🤣
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