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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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I hope the club give BC his own radio show.
They could call it Chorley FM7 -
Ben Garner wouldn't leave Swindon without a guarantee that he has a manager's job to go to. If he is caught in limbo then a major misunderstanding has taken place.
It's not possible to mix up Ben from Kent Manager and Ben from Kent DOF at Swindon 🤔
I remember Mr Vinegar the renowned ice hockey coach was going to take over at Cafc as Manager and Katie Meire said in a face off call that you have to change your mind to Duchâtelet as the Puck will stop with me. Roland accepted he was skating on thin ice and Nabby Vinegar was left on the shelf and we moved on to the next target.
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Wait so we’ve gone from underwhelmed and it’s a shambles that Garner could potentially be appointed to excited that he might come in with a whole host of his back room team?0
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Minor point. He was already here. He went back and then did it, so more accurately I suspect people think he should have done it before he left.Wheresmeticket? said:
But there are people hereabouts who think he should have waited to come over to give JJ the sack in person...West2003 said:Having to wait for the owner to come over in order to appoint a manager is just bizarre. Imagine if Man Utd held off on naming Ten Hag because they had to wait for the Glazers to get through baggage reclaim at Manchester airport. Strange behaviour.1 -
Why would Beale not drop down to this league when it's rumoured that he was interviews pre adkins and then again pre Jackson?thetomahawkkid said:
My take on it is that we have already got Garner (and Richard Cawley is correct), but TS is playing silly buggers and wants to announce it when in the UK and have a few photo opportunities for his social media. Of course, as soon as he announces it is Garner, TS is going to look like a right tit having denied it more times than Judas.Covered_End_Lad said:My take on what has happened:
- TS interviewed Garner and agreed compo with Swindon
- Another manager potentially higher up on his list is now interested (maybe Beale)
- TS wants to take his time to see if he can get someone better than Garner
- Swindon want to force the issue and leak it to the press (Cawley)
We may very well still get Garner who I don't think would be a bad choice.
Beale was never a realistic prospect - too expensive and would never drop to the third division.0 -
can some one ask Cawley what he knows about chorley?1
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Ahead of that, finding the right manager to take our men’s first team forward is our number one priority at this time. We have conducted interviews with a number of candidates and have been really pleased with the quality of interested individuals applying for the role.
So just pick one!0 -
After reading through that Swindon link I reckon Sandy got his red shirted clubs mixed up, Brentford model? We're doing a Swindon!
If it all all comes off a clean sweep and fresh start with a coaching team all known t each other with clear aligned goals is only a good thing0 -
if that happens... its starting to look like we might have a strategy.. (do a Swindon)0
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Don Rogers demolishing Arsenal is a fond memorysuperclive said:if that happens... its starting to look like we might have a strategy.. (do a Swindon)1 -
She's still waiting for you to return...Gribbo said:
Stayed in Eagle & Child in Chorley. Elaine behind the jump, still hold a bit if a flame for her.......RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Henry Irving said:WIOTOS
Chorley may have decided to leave for many reasons not connected to Charlton or he and Garner could be off to QPR or Blackburn.
Just googled this and it says that Chorley is less than 30 mins drive from Blackburn so looks like he's on his way there.
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I can almost hear Thomas saying most of the things said there.Scoham said:
Though three directors covering negotiations, analytics, recruitment and appointing head coaches feels a bit much?Garrymanilow said:Knowing our luck it's probably completely unrelated but getting in both the DoF and the manager that put together a decent team at short notice would be a great move. It would also seemingly limit the amount of universe-level control that Martin apparently has, which would be hilarious given the months of wailing on here about it. You'd imagine if Gallen were also staying then we'd be looking at one who idenitifies the correct players and one who handles the negotiations from there, which would be good. It would also explain the delay in making the announcement. Interesting, possibly exciting stuff. (cue: Welcome Steve Evans)
Here’s what the Swindon OS said when they were appointed last year, seems Chorley ran recruitment and it was up to him appoint the head coach:
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/new-director-of-football-and-head-coach-appointed/5 -
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All just titles in the end. It did start to feel a bit like Gallen's pool of players was running dry recently so having someone to identify players via data, someone to use that data to find good players who fit the agreed style - and likely to inform what the data is assessing in the first place - and then someone to negotiate (Sandgaard calls Gallen the best negotiator he's ever seen. Likely the usual hyperbole from him but still, it sounds like Gallen is great at sealing these deals) sounds like a good plan. No-one overworked, everyone with a niche that they can put their full focus into. Sounds almost like it's a well thought out plan, which is going to make it hurt even more when it's all just coincidence!Scoham said:
Though three directors covering negotiations, analytics, recruitment and appointing head coaches feels a bit much?Garrymanilow said:Knowing our luck it's probably completely unrelated but getting in both the DoF and the manager that put together a decent team at short notice would be a great move. It would also seemingly limit the amount of universe-level control that Martin apparently has, which would be hilarious given the months of wailing on here about it. You'd imagine if Gallen were also staying then we'd be looking at one who idenitifies the correct players and one who handles the negotiations from there, which would be good. It would also explain the delay in making the announcement. Interesting, possibly exciting stuff. (cue: Welcome Steve Evans)
Here’s what the Swindon OS said when they were appointed last year, seems Chorley ran recruitment and it was up to him appoint the head coach:
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/new-director-of-football-and-head-coach-appointed/
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The idea of a DoF being brought in is strangely more exciting than a new manager coming in because we need one, can’t exactly get carried away though3
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Perhaps that's why there's been a delay. Has Garner insisted that Chorley comes too ?1
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He’d take a cut for a decent management job.RonnieMoore said:
Not on 600k a year that’s why teams are looking elsewhereValley11 said:I wonder if Beale is the issue.
If Robinson is the favourite for Loftus Road then perhaps that’s because MB is heading our way?I have no idea btw.It’s getting to the point where this is feeling very last summer though.New signings and new manager in place for pre season tour eh? Hmmm0 -
but wasn't that because of his other skills?.Covered End said:I'm not sure about everyone, but I think the vast majority were very happy when Pardew was appointed.
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Don't you just hate people who can't be bothered to read 190 pages to find out important things like that. FYI Chorley is in Lancashire.Gribbo said:Anyone know where Chorley is?0 - Sponsored links:
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We’ll end up with Ben Sidcup from ChorleyRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Now that is interesting if he is coming in as DoF too. May be the reason for the hold up.chev said:
EDIT....he's from Sidcup!
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Swindon fans aren’t happy.
One mentioned Chorley lead sports science as well as recruiting (and presumably other areas).
https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=58858.735
He’s only 39 himself but they played in the style TS wants (attacking but possession based) and clearly got things right in other areas, for example maximising the minutes they could get from Williams.
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Yeah, the Swindon fans on that podcast recorded when the BG news broke seemed to think BG going wasn't that big deal as they had Chorley in place. Interesting developments.1
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where the listener always comes firstHenry Irving said:I hope the club give BC his own radio show.
They could call it Chorley FM1 -
I wonder if Ben Garner outlined to TS how Swindon operated and why they did so well last season from nothing.
TS likes the sound of it and basically takes all the important pieces to create his own system here.
What it means for Gallen/Coaching staff already here in the coming months will be interesting.2 -
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Think TS is learning fast …just say nothing to report yet but he knows how close things are only takes a min to say yes …Gravesend_Addick said:Doesn't sound imminent
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Apart from an unexpected resignation at Swindon I’m not too sure there’s much here to get too excited about. Lots of 2+2 = 5 going on.8
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So...
Optimist guess
TS approaches Swindon to speak to Garner and so comes into contact with Chorley. He is impressed with him and the job he does so decides to get a double deal. He's already done the deal with BG but the BC deal has taken a big longer. Championship here we come.
Pessimist guess
Garner has turned down the deal and if off to another club while Chorley is leaving for an unconnected reason, we still haven't got a manager and are way behind the game again. League Two here we come.
Realist Guess
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