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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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Sounds like TS is trying to be over smart with contracts, which is making it tough to close the managers.. performance related, and release clause that wouldn’t cost him much! Managers want to come, but they also need to look after themselves!Garner compo package was agreed, and were still trying to arrange personal terms, but as they were a long way apart TS started shopping again!
Wouldn’t be surprised if another name enters the race, someone coaching in the premier league! I think by the end of this week we will have our manager!25 -
RedJohn said:all this Linkedin messaging, I decided to message him today, wow, he responded, and stated he HOPES that a new manager will be in charge with regard to the Spain trip,9
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The Red Robin said:Gravesend_Addick said:Scoham said:Looks like Blackburn are going for Duncan Disorderly (one of the best football nicknames alongside One Size and Loch Ness Drogba).
I feel like he'd be a bit in the Roy Keane mould where the players are half scared to do anything wrong as he might lay you out.0 -
RonnieMoore said:said this week may be to soon to get a new manager in but we will have a new man in place in next two weeks … again TS on LinkedIn
also we are not interviewing for a DOF4 -
As I've been saying for a while, TS the cuddlier/friendlier version of RD whose finding it very difficult to find a manager, that he wants, to work under his set up.
I'm not convinced at this rate it won't be Euell or MS taking the teams to Spain!2 -
I remember being shocked when Sandgaard announced that it wouldn't cost much to get rid of Jackson. I mean, Jackson was still in the job, hardly motivational to hear that and actually quite destabilising toboot. Now we hear that Garner is almost in the job, it's just that Sandaard is looking for someone better.
If I was Garner, and if I was told the job's probably mine, and if I'd been left dangling on a piece of string, and if Sandgaard's still looking for someone 'better,' and if after weeks of turmoil and disruption finally told the job is mine ... I'd tell him to 'go eff himself'.
I don't think Sandgaard need apply for a job in the diplomatic service,
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ValleyOfTears said:I hope Saandgard will take a different approach this time around and instead of saying "we are going to **** this league next season". Instead he could say ~ "...we have no right to expect even a play off berth come May. We have no manager in place. We have released a lot of players and the squad needs a complete overhaul and rebuild. With time and the positive contribution that passionate fanbase bring I have every confidence we will see a year on year progression from hereonin. And our very ambitious club from boardroom to groundsman have a single focus for this club. To one day be playing against the very best teams in this country once again week in week out".
To me that takes the pressure off the next manager. Places us in reality once again and empowers everyone to be pulling in the right direction..
The majority of fans are realistic and not entitled children as has been alleged and had that been the message hitherto it's one we would have accepted (albeit perhaps reluctantly in this era of instant gratification).
I think what has caused the concern from many of us is the complete disparity between the soundbites and salesmanship and the unfolded reality which has seen us in our lowest footballing ebb in recent memory and little tangible evidence to suggest confidence that will change anytime soon.
He's not speaking to an audience of gullible hicks (in the main) selling a monorail project....but overseeing a beloved institution and talking to seasoned football fans who know the harsh realities of supporting clubs like Charlton Athletic.
Maybe it was naive over enthusiasm or just salesmanship but talk of Europe and Premier league, parading round the pitch with guitars before winning anything and further spiel like blow the league away lead to many just thinking words are words and it's bluster and which detracts from credibility and confidence as your left either thinking you're being bullshitted or they're really underestimating the challenge at hand.
We get/ have got words and implied messages that have thus far failed to translate to anything near the expectation on the pitch and it undermines confidence in those communicating it.
And whilst with talk amongst fans of increasingly irrelevantand meaningless "natural levels" and "shouldn't be losing at home to accrington stanley" are prominent the expectation of far more has in been set in the main by the owner who runs the club and is closest to make a call on realistic prospects for the club.
We don't need to be sold a dream to keep us coming back as Charlton is our life sentence and albatross. Whilst we all want success and as quickly as possible please most are stoic and pragmatic enough to accept the reality and would/ would have got behind the message in the quoted post.
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ChicagoAddick’s article on Ben Chorley makes an interesting point.
Most of the posts on the transfers thread are about players that did well in their games against us or ex Addicks. Up and coming talents in the lower leagues don’t feature on tv or get snapped up by talent spotting managers on FIFA. A DoF with a recent track record of building up a squad almost from scratch would be a welcome addition in my mind. The Swindon link and the timing, as suggested by chicagoaddick, makes it more intriguing.
https://chicagoaddick.com/2022/05/30/ben-chorley/4 -
Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….7
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RonnieMoore said:Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….26
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RonnieMoore said:Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….2
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cfgs said:RonnieMoore said:Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….0
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RonnieMoore said:cfgs said:RonnieMoore said:Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….12
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RonnieMoore said:Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….
A holiday shouldn't hold up accepting a job.10 -
DubaiCAFC said:Sounds like TS is trying to be over smart with contracts, which is making it tough to close the managers.. performance related, and release clause that wouldn’t cost him much! Managers want to come, but they also need to look after themselves!Garner compo package was agreed, and were still trying to arrange personal terms, but as they were a long way apart TS started shopping again!
Wouldn’t be surprised if another name enters the race, someone coaching in the premier league! I think by the end of this week we will have our manager!0 -
What AFKA said earlier, and my gawd do non tournament summers drag on here
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RodneyCharltonTrotta said:ValleyOfTears said:I hope Saandgard will take a different approach this time around and instead of saying "we are going to **** this league next season". Instead he could say ~ "...we have no right to expect even a play off berth come May. We have no manager in place. We have released a lot of players and the squad needs a complete overhaul and rebuild. With time and the positive contribution that passionate fanbase bring I have every confidence we will see a year on year progression from hereonin. And our very ambitious club from boardroom to groundsman have a single focus for this club. To one day be playing against the very best teams in this country once again week in week out".
To me that takes the pressure off the next manager. Places us in reality once again and empowers everyone to be pulling in the right direction..
The majority of fans are realistic and not entitled children as has been alleged and had that been the message hitherto it's one we would have accepted (albeit perhaps reluctantly in this era of instant gratification).
I think what has caused the concern from many of us is the complete disparity between the soundbites and salesmanship and the unfolded reality which has seen us in our lowest footballing ebb in recent memory and little tangible evidence to suggest confidence that will change anytime soon.
He's not speaking to an audience of gullible hicks (in the main) selling a monorail project....but overseeing a beloved institution and talking to seasoned football fans who know the harsh realities of supporting clubs like Charlton Athletic.
Maybe it was naive over enthusiasm or just salesmanship but talk of Europe and Premier league, parading round the pitch with guitars before winning anything and further spiel like blow the league away lead to many just thinking words are words and it's bluster and which detracts from credibility and confidence as your left either thinking you're being bullshitted or they're really underestimating the challenge at hand.
We get/ have got words and implied messages that have thus far failed to translate to anything near the expectation on the pitch and it undermines confidence in those communicating it.
And whilst with talk amongst fans of increasingly irrelevantand meaningless "natural levels" and "shouldn't be losing at home to accrington stanley" are prominent the expectation of far more has in been set in the main by the owner who runs the club and is closest to make a call on realistic prospects for the club.
We don't need to be sold a dream to keep us coming back as Charlton is our life sentence and albatross. Whilst we all want success and as quickly as possible please most are stoic and pragmatic enough to accept the reality and would/ would have got behind the message in the quoted post.
Good post
In summary:
Under promise, over deliver5 -
EugenesAxe said:mattinfinland said:I think we will make an appointment on Thursday.
That gives the new coaching team around 20 days to prepare for the training camp (the week after the 16th of June)
5/6 weeks before the season starts (from training camp)
7/8 weeks total prep(since manager potentially appointed)
I wouldn't say that's to short and probably average.
If we haven't got a manager by next Monday I'll be more worried1 -
king addick said:RonnieMoore said:Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….
A holiday shouldn't hold up accepting a job.0 -
Rob7Lee said:As I've been saying for a while, TS the cuddlier/friendlier version of RD whose finding it very difficult to find a manager, that he wants, to work under his set up.
I'm not convinced at this rate it won't be Euell or MS taking the teams to Spain!
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Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans.
so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎7 -
1968CAFC said:Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans.
so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎3 -
Hal1x said:1968CAFC said:Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans.
so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
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I think we'd basically ruled Beale out anyway but looks like he's going to be confirmed at QPR. One I'll probably keep an eye on and see how it goes.4 -
1968CAFC said:Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans.
so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎18 -
When he was 11 Ben Chorley told me he was going to be a professional footballer.
His focus was locked on, and he was right.1 -
addick1956 said:1968CAFC said:Hal1x said:1968CAFC said:Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans.
so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
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Redhenry said:1968CAFC said:Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans.
so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎1 -
1968CAFC said:Hal1x said:1968CAFC said:Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans.
so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
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MarcusH26 said:
I think we'd basically ruled Beale out anyway but looks like he's going to be confirmed at QPR. One I'll probably keep an eye on and see how it goes.0