I hope Saandgard will take a different approach this time around and instead of saying "we are going to **** this league next season". Instead he could say ~ "...we have no right to expect even a play off berth come May. We have no manager in place. We have released a lot of players and the squad needs a complete overhaul and rebuild. With time and the positive contribution that passionate fanbase bring I have every confidence we will see a year on year progression from hereonin. And our very ambitious club from boardroom to groundsman have a single focus for this club. To one day be playing against the very best teams in this country once again week in week out".
To me that takes the pressure off the next manager. Places us in reality once again and empowers everyone to be pulling in the right direction..
Had he said this from the outset I think even his harshest of critics would probably have been pragmatic and got wholeheartedly behind him with acceptance of reality of where we are as a club and how it is these days.
The majority of fans are realistic and not entitled children as has been alleged and had that been the message hitherto it's one we would have accepted (albeit perhaps reluctantly in this era of instant gratification).
I think what has caused the concern from many of us is the complete disparity between the soundbites and salesmanship and the unfolded reality which has seen us in our lowest footballing ebb in recent memory and little tangible evidence to suggest confidence that will change anytime soon.
He's not speaking to an audience of gullible hicks (in the main) selling a monorail project....but overseeing a beloved institution and talking to seasoned football fans who know the harsh realities of supporting clubs like Charlton Athletic.
Maybe it was naive over enthusiasm or just salesmanship but talk of Europe and Premier league, parading round the pitch with guitars before winning anything and further spiel like blow the league away lead to many just thinking words are words and it's bluster and which detracts from credibility and confidence as your left either thinking you're being bullshitted or they're really underestimating the challenge at hand.
We get/ have got words and implied messages that have thus far failed to translate to anything near the expectation on the pitch and it undermines confidence in those communicating it.
And whilst with talk amongst fans of increasingly irrelevantand meaningless "natural levels" and "shouldn't be losing at home to accrington stanley" are prominent the expectation of far more has in been set in the main by the owner who runs the club and is closest to make a call on realistic prospects for the club.
We don't need to be sold a dream to keep us coming back as Charlton is our life sentence and albatross. Whilst we all want success and as quickly as possible please most are stoic and pragmatic enough to accept the reality and would/ would have got behind the message in the quoted post.
I think we will make an appointment on Thursday. That gives the new coaching team around 20 days to prepare for the training camp (the week after the 16th of June) 5/6 weeks before the season starts (from training camp) 7/8 weeks total prep(since manager potentially appointed)
I wouldn't say that's to short and probably average. If we haven't got a manager by next Monday I'll be more worried
What time on Thursday? To the nearest quarter of an hour please
As I've been saying for a while, TS the cuddlier/friendlier version of RD whose finding it very difficult to find a manager, that he wants, to work under his set up.
I'm not convinced at this rate it won't be Euell or MS taking the teams to Spain!
I know we'll take a few kids over there, but how many senior players do we currently have contracted?
Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Let me guess you are a glass half empty sort of person. Just wait a little longer, then we can all go top ourselves on the centre circle.
Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Let me guess you are a glass half empty sort of person.
No actually I own 5 companies and have supported CAFC since 1968. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Are u the guy that used to sit behind me? I had to move....
Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Let me guess you are a glass half empty sort of person.
No actually I own 5 companies and have supported CAFC since 1968. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Glass half empty then. I have supported since 1956 and glass down to about 125 millilitres
Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Are u the guy that used to sit behind me? I had to move....
Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Let me guess you are a glass half empty sort of person.
No actually I own 5 companies and have supported CAFC since 1968. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Let me guess you are a glass half empty sort of person.
No actually I own 5 companies and have supported CAFC since 1968. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Welp, that's my non-sequitur of the week.
None-Sequitur a noun is not the correct word but a sense of humour might help 🤣🤣🤣
Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….
No access to emails? No internet for a zoom.
A holiday shouldn't hold up accepting a job.
Would say it’s all been agreed before he went away
Swindon are therefore being very accommodating in these circumstances then as there Manager is clearing off and they have not announced that to their ownnsupporters yet so as not to ruin our own announcement!
As I've been saying for a while, TS the cuddlier/friendlier version of RD whose finding it very difficult to find a manager, that he wants, to work under his set up.
I'm not convinced at this rate it won't be Euell or MS taking the teams to Spain!
MS, behave. That will never ever happen and everyone knows it. It keeps getting mentioned as a way of having a cheap pop at the owner
Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….
No access to emails? No internet for a zoom.
A holiday shouldn't hold up accepting a job.
Would say it’s all been agreed before he went away
Swindon are therefore being very accommodating in these circumstances then as there Manager is clearing off and they have not announced that to their ownnsupporters yet so as not to ruin our own announcement!
Sounds like TS is trying to be over smart with contracts, which is making it tough to close the managers.. performance related, and release clause that wouldn’t cost him much! Managers want to come, but they also need to look after themselves!
Garner compo package was agreed, and were still trying to arrange personal terms, but as they were a long way apart TS started shopping again!
Wouldn’t be surprised if another name enters the race, someone coaching in the premier league! I think by the end of this week we will have our manager!
That’s an interesting post from a known itk poster. Coaching in the PL is likely, I think to be number two somewhere ? Anything less than number two seems unlikely to me. Any names jump out ? SCP is one I suppose but is he number two at The Spuds or Academy?
Don't think it's been suggested (can't be bothered to trawl through all the post's) but the delay could be because Garner has been offered the job but is considering other offers.
Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….
No access to emails? No internet for a zoom.
A holiday shouldn't hold up accepting a job.
Would say it’s all been agreed before he went away
Swindon are therefore being very accommodating in these circumstances then as there Manager is clearing off and they have not announced that to their ownnsupporters yet so as not to ruin our own announcement!
Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Let me guess you are a glass half empty sort of person.
No actually I own 5 companies and have supported CAFC since 1968. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Welp, that's my non-sequitur of the week.
None-Sequitur a noun is not the correct word but a sense of humour might help 🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like TS is trying to include the same clauses that Jacko agreed to. The issue is, Jacko had nothing to lose and everything to gain, someone in a contract already isn’t going to agree to any of that! We are going nowhere next season if this continues to linger on.
every summer I never fail to understand how some people get themselves so worked up on a daily basis based on snippets and rumours. Some will be true, some won’t, but ultimately there’s nothing any of us can do about it.
We’re not playing a competitive game for another couple of months and they’ll probably be plenty of disappointment coming our way then, so just take yourselves down The Winchester till it comes a bit meaningful and don’t stress out on it all.
Charlton ruin most of my year. I’m damned if I’m gonna let it ruin the close season as well.
Sounds like TS is trying to include the same clauses that Jacko agreed to. The issue is, Jacko had nothing to lose and everything to gain, someone in a contract already isn’t going to agree to any of that! We are going nowhere next season if this continues to linger on.
This is another example of where TS needs someone with football experience around him.
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Good post
In summary:
Under promise, over deliver
so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
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I think we'd basically ruled Beale out anyway but looks like he's going to be confirmed at QPR. One I'll probably keep an eye on and see how it goes.
His focus was locked on, and he was right.
but a sense of humour might help 🤣🤣🤣
Wouldn't be shocked to see Cameron Archer the young striker that looked good for Preston second half of last season go there.
Or are you just making it up as you go along?
You part-timer.