On Free sports channel 65 is a mini football tournament with six a side. Fed up with the speculation on the next manager, raining cats and dogs, waiting for the Racing.
England are playing Israel later. Wave your flag and cheer on England.
No apologies from me for advertising football on a football forum.
Enjoy.
Charlton were invited, but we turned it down as we couldn’t put a side out
We have a club to support thanks to him, no one else. Forget Barclay, he didn’t want to get involved without the assets, so TS was the only option and we all owe him a massive thanks.
Has he over promised, has he made mistakes - yes, but who hasn’t.
For the last 15 years, this club has been poorly run, so we need to forget the “that’s not the way we do things at Charlton mindset”.
He genuinely wants to build something here, so let’s get behind him, ride out the good with the bad, and be grateful that we’ll have a competitive club to support come the start of the season.
Just because we were mixing it in the premier league once, does not mean we have a right to do so again. Look at Oldham!
It’s the year 2030. Charlton have just completed the Derby double over Dulwich Hamlet as Thomas proclaims the road to the Prem starts here.
Honestly I can’t deal with this anymore. He saved the club doesn’t mean he (or anyone else) is immune to criticism. It’s beyond parody.
But was had he done so badly in the last two years, when you consider how shit we were for the 13 years beforehand.
He doesn’t have a magic wand!
I can’t deal with this attitude anymore. Easy to slag someone off when it’s not your money that you’re having to pump in season after season.
Let’s list out his mistakes…
1) He’s made some bold claims which he shouldn’t have done
2) He underestimated the league and we were slow out of the blocks last season
3) No one should play the guitar on the pitch
What else?
What?????? We are more shit now than at any point in the last 13 years.
A period that included signings such as Cullen, Bielik, Gudmundsson, Buyens, Bulot, Texeira, Taylor, Bauer etc.
Championship football (even under the owner we had). Play off promotions.
I agree last year was awful, but that follows 13 years of being shit, but he’s not a magician or a billionaire owner, so it’s going to take time.
Please as I’m really interested in your opinion, what mistakes do you think he has made (on top of those I’ve already listed)?
13 years of being shit? If you measure things against being Premier League then maybe. Measured as a League One team we were brilliant in 2012 and in 2019. We also spent 5 seasons in The Championship. We've got worse and worse since TS became owner. You ask what other mistakes he's made: 1. Not hiring a CEO and believing that he can do the job based on another continent. 2. Hiring a completely inexperienced person to head up recruitment. 3. Worrying about the women's team and Valley Pass before sorting out the men's team. 4. Having too much of a say on the way we should be playing. 5. Forcing Bowyer out ( a manager who has already proved he can get promotion from League One). 6. Signing players too heavily weighted on data system analysis
7. Hiring Adkins (was he on anyone's list of possible candidates?) 8. Leaving it too late to sign players.
9. Giving un unrealistic target to the third manager leading to his sacking. 10. Not getting the fourth manager in place sooner.
15 years of being managed (off the pitch) badly, of which only 2 years has been under the TS reign.
My point is, you can’t take a club that’s been managed so badly (TJ, RD, MS the etc) and turn it round in a season or two.
And some of the points above are just an opinion, for example Adkins, and others might be out of his control, e.g. appointing Garner and his team will take time as we’re taking them from another club.
TS is our owner and should ultimately take the blame, but some of the things he’s getting criticised for are just way over the top.
We have a club to support thanks to him, no one else. Forget Barclay, he didn’t want to get involved without the assets, so TS was the only option and we all owe him a massive thanks.
Has he over promised, has he made mistakes - yes, but who hasn’t.
For the last 15 years, this club has been poorly run, so we need to forget the “that’s not the way we do things at Charlton mindset”.
He genuinely wants to build something here, so let’s get behind him, ride out the good with the bad, and be grateful that we’ll have a competitive club to support come the start of the season.
Just because we were mixing it in the premier league once, does not mean we have a right to do so again. Look at Oldham!
It’s the year 2030. Charlton have just completed the Derby double over Dulwich Hamlet as Thomas proclaims the road to the Prem starts here.
Honestly I can’t deal with this anymore. He saved the club doesn’t mean he (or anyone else) is immune to criticism. It’s beyond parody.
But was had he done so badly in the last two years, when you consider how shit we were for the 13 years beforehand.
He doesn’t have a magic wand!
I can’t deal with this attitude anymore. Easy to slag someone off when it’s not your money that you’re having to pump in season after season.
Let’s list out his mistakes…
1) He’s made some bold claims which he shouldn’t have done
2) He underestimated the league and we were slow out of the blocks last season
3) No one should play the guitar on the pitch
What else?
What?????? We are more shit now than at any point in the last 13 years.
A period that included signings such as Cullen, Bielik, Gudmundsson, Buyens, Bulot, Texeira, Taylor, Bauer etc.
Championship football (even under the owner we had). Play off promotions.
I agree last year was awful, but that follows 13 years of being shit, but he’s not a magician or a billionaire owner, so it’s going to take time.
Please as I’m really interested in your opinion, what mistakes do you think he has made (on top of those I’ve already listed)?
13 years of being shit? If you measure things against being Premier League then maybe. Measured as a League One team we were brilliant in 2012 and in 2019. We also spent 5 seasons in The Championship. We've got worse and worse since TS became owner. You ask what other mistakes he's made: 1. Not hiring a CEO and believing that he can do the job based on another continent.
He is on record as saying he needs to sort the club out 1st so maybe we will see a CEO before long
2. Hiring a completely inexperienced person to head up recruitment.
Again where has it been said MS heads up recruitment ? Apart from on here ?
3. Worrying about the women's team and Valley Pass before sorting out the men's team.
Maybe the womens team was an easier short term fix. Valley Pass is a fantastic addition imo and is a revenue builder I presume
4. Having too much of a say on the way we should be playing.
Really ? Again how do you know that ? He expressed an opinion that the style of play last season was poor, do you disagree? Would you be happy going into next season thinking your spending your hard earned on watching that shite ?
5. Forcing Bowyer out ( a manager who has already proved he can get promotion from League One).
How does that work then ? Bowyer left on his own accord
6. Signing players too heavily weighted on data system analysis
I think most clubs do this we are not alone, the days when 1 person bought and sold players are long gone
7. Hiring Adkins (was he on anyone's list of possible candidates?)
Dont you think this interferes with the theory that he doesnt take advice ? You think he had even heard of Adkins before ? Obviously someone put Adkins forward as a recommendation, the recomendation went wrong but noway he just plucked Adkins out of thin air on his own accord
8. Leaving it too late to sign players.
Yup valid point and one he has acknowledged himself
9. Giving un unrealistic target to the third manager leading to his sacking.
Was it unrealistic ? When JJ signed the contract we were already there, he went downhill radically since that point for whatever reason.
10. Not getting the fourth manager in place sooner.
Has pre season started yet ? Are you aware that the new manager hasnt been having an input already ? What exactly would the new Manager have been doing the last 3 weeks ?
Not having a dig but just think about your statements, only one has any basis of fact the rest are just based on hearsay
We have a club to support thanks to him, no one else. Forget Barclay, he didn’t want to get involved without the assets, so TS was the only option and we all owe him a massive thanks.
Has he over promised, has he made mistakes - yes, but who hasn’t.
For the last 15 years, this club has been poorly run, so we need to forget the “that’s not the way we do things at Charlton mindset”.
He genuinely wants to build something here, so let’s get behind him, ride out the good with the bad, and be grateful that we’ll have a competitive club to support come the start of the season.
Just because we were mixing it in the premier league once, does not mean we have a right to do so again. Look at Oldham!
It’s the year 2030. Charlton have just completed the Derby double over Dulwich Hamlet as Thomas proclaims the road to the Prem starts here.
Honestly I can’t deal with this anymore. He saved the club doesn’t mean he (or anyone else) is immune to criticism. It’s beyond parody.
But was had he done so badly in the last two years, when you consider how shit we were for the 13 years beforehand.
He doesn’t have a magic wand!
I can’t deal with this attitude anymore. Easy to slag someone off when it’s not your money that you’re having to pump in season after season.
Let’s list out his mistakes…
1) He’s made some bold claims which he shouldn’t have done
2) He underestimated the league and we were slow out of the blocks last season
3) No one should play the guitar on the pitch
What else?
What?????? We are more shit now than at any point in the last 13 years.
A period that included signings such as Cullen, Bielik, Gudmundsson, Buyens, Bulot, Texeira, Taylor, Bauer etc.
Championship football (even under the owner we had). Play off promotions.
I agree last year was awful, but that follows 13 years of being shit, but he’s not a magician or a billionaire owner, so it’s going to take time.
Please as I’m really interested in your opinion, what mistakes do you think he has made (on top of those I’ve already listed)?
13 years of being shit? If you measure things against being Premier League then maybe. Measured as a League One team we were brilliant in 2012 and in 2019. We also spent 5 seasons in The Championship. We've got worse and worse since TS became owner. You ask what other mistakes he's made: 1. Not hiring a CEO and believing that he can do the job based on another continent.
He is on record as saying he needs to sort the club out 1st so maybe we will see a CEO before long
2. Hiring a completely inexperienced person to head up recruitment.
Again where has it been said MS heads up recruitment ? Apart from on here ?
3. Worrying about the women's team and Valley Pass before sorting out the men's team.
Maybe the womens team was an easier short term fix. Valley Pass is a fantastic addition imo and is a revenue builder I presume
4. Having too much of a say on the way we should be playing.
Really ? Again how do you know that ? He expressed an opinion that the style of play last season was poor, do you disagree? Would you be happy going into next season thinking your spending your hard earned on watching that shite ?
5. Forcing Bowyer out ( a manager who has already proved he can get promotion from League One).
How does that work then ? Bowyer left on his own accord
6. Signing players too heavily weighted on data system analysis
I think most clubs do this we are not alone, the days when 1 person bought and sold players are long gone
7. Hiring Adkins (was he on anyone's list of possible candidates?)
Dont you think this interferes with the theory that he doesnt take advice ? You think he had even heard of Adkins before ? Obviously someone put Adkins forward as a recommendation, the recomendation went wrong but noway he just plucked Adkins out of thin air on his own accord
8. Leaving it too late to sign players.
Yup valid point and one he has acknowledged himself
9. Giving un unrealistic target to the third manager leading to his sacking.
Was it unrealistic ? When JJ signed the contract we were already there, he went downhill radically since that point for whatever reason.
10. Not getting the fourth manager in place sooner.
Has pre season started yet ? Are you aware that the new manager hasnt been having an input already ? What exactly would the new Manager have been doing the last 3 weeks ?
Not having a dig but just think about your statements, only one has any basis of fact the rest are just based on hearsay
Garner finally agreed a deal and compo for him is sorted. However, not a done deal as he won't be coming without his own backroom staff. Talks regarding them are ongoing. Compo sticking point at the moment If pushed In would say announcement likely Tues/Weds next week.
If you want him to be successful then you need to bring the support with him that’s helped him do that. Stop pissing about Sandgaard.
Feels a bit like people will try and find an infinite number of sticks to beat Sandgaard with sometimes. There’s been moaning about the amount of time it’s taken to secure Garner but it appears to be done. Now there’s the negotiation over his other staff - who we’re clearly trying to bring in - where Swindon appear to be the problem and Sandgaard Is ‘pissing about’. Does it always have to be a dig at him?
Garner finally agreed a deal and compo for him is sorted. However, not a done deal as he won't be coming without his own backroom staff. Talks regarding them are ongoing. Compo sticking point at the moment If pushed I would say announcement likely Tues/Weds next week.
Garner finally agreed a deal and compo for him is sorted. However, not a done deal as he won't be coming without his own backroom staff. Talks regarding them are ongoing. Compo sticking point at the moment If pushed In would say announcement likely Tues/Weds next week.
If you want him to be successful then you need to bring the support with him that’s helped him do that. Stop pissing about Sandgaard.
This.
The mighty Clough was nothing without Taylor.
A General needs to have officers around him that he trusts
We don't know if the wages are basic or if they include bonuses.
We don't even know if the figure is accurate.
But we're getting into "have you stopped beating you wife?" territory.
"High" wage = wasting money "Low" wage = doing it on the cheap.
Appoint a manager in days = rushed into it
Appoint a manager in five weeks = faffed about/season is already wasted.
They are plenty of valid reasons to question TS (such as MS and his role, his managerial appointments, his over promising, his rush to make things happen ie pushing fill the Valley too hard after the initial success) but some are looking to see a negative in every action or if no action then to see a negative in that same lack of action.
Back to Garner.
IF IF IF (WIOTOS) what the Swindon journalist says is true then I'm pleased.
We have a manager who's been allowed to bring in his own staff (a criticism of the Adkins appointment).
We have a young but experienced coach wanting to progress his career with us (you could argue we had similar with JJ but he wasn't given time/wasn't good enough).
We have a manager who, we hope, sees eye to eye with the owner and buys into the "model" that we plan to use.
Will it work? Possibly, if TS and MS don’t micro-manage BG, give him a large say in recruitment, fund said recruitment and give him time.
Will BG get all that? I don't know but at least some of us will have something different to look forward to and some others something different to moan about.
MS - people are now calling out some of the great signings made by Driesen, so maybe the data is key!
Charlton Ladies - agreed
Ronnie - crap signing won’t be the last
I agree on the song but it’s not contributed to anything on the pitch.
Fill the ground - I’m a ST holder and I got what he was trying to do, it didn’t work, but the right intentions were there.
Washington - that’s a matter of opinion, so many fans saying he wasn’t good enough.
Loan signings - I agree that was strange but again, who really knows the circumstances around those signings.
IMO when Skiverton joined JJ was going to be in charge this year but the end to last season was woeful.
No current manager - he said we’d have a manager before pre-season
my point is the list above is not that bad. I’m not saying we shouldn’t criticise but a lot on here and Twitter and other sites are going way over-board!
This is an interesting and potentially valid point.
If that’s the case then, I would suggest hiring a data expert rather than your son who needs a job may be the way to go
We don't know if the wages are basic or if they include bonuses.
We don't even know if the figure is accurate.
But we're getting into "have you stopped beating you wife?" territory.
"High" wage = wasting money "Low" wage = doing it on the cheap.
Appoint a manager in days = rushed into it
Appoint a manager in five weeks = faffed about/season is already wasted.
They are plenty of valid reasons to question TS (such as MS and his role, his managerial appointments, his over promising, his rush to make things happen ie pushing fill the Valley too hard after the initial success) but some are looking to see a negative in every action or if no action then to see a negative in that same lack of action.
Back to Garner.
IF IF IF (WIOTOS) what the Swindon journalist says is true then I'm pleased.
We have a manager who's been allowed to bring in his own staff (a criticism of the Adkins appointment).
We have a young but experienced coach wanting to progress his career with us (you could argue we had similar with JJ but he wasn't given time/wasn't good enough).
We have a manager who, we hope, sees eye to eye with the owner and buys into the "model" that we plan to use.
Will it work? Possibly, if TS and MS don’t micro-manage BG, give him a large say in recruitment, fund said recruitment and give him time.
Will BG get all that? I don't know but at least some of us will have something different to look forward to and some others something different to moan about.
Sandgaard made the point about the pathway/ progression not just in regards to youth coming through but coaches too.
If, if, if we get Garner and his team in I'd take that as TS having a wake up call in regards to what it takes to getting out of this league and moving forwards, just plugging a random coach in to current set up - ala Adkins - isn't as straight forward or easy as it sounds, hopefully, that mind set will stretch to recruitment, ie the manger/ coach having more if an input into who comes in.
Could be the start of that Charlton resurrection right here.
Do you want to be ridiculed for positivity you fool!!!!😂😂 if you’re going to put you’re head above the parapet maybe you should have said Thomas is a good for nothing, bravado loving prick!!.😜😂
zzzzzzzzz
Have a Horlicks and a good night sleep, you’ll be ok in the morning.
We don't know if the wages are basic or if they include bonuses.
We don't even know if the figure is accurate.
But we're getting into "have you stopped beating you wife?" territory.
"High" wage = wasting money "Low" wage = doing it on the cheap.
Appoint a manager in days = rushed into it
Appoint a manager in five weeks = faffed about/season is already wasted.
They are plenty of valid reasons to question TS (such as MS and his role, his managerial appointments, his over promising, his rush to make things happen ie pushing fill the Valley too hard after the initial success) but some are looking to see a negative in every action or if no action then to see a negative in that same lack of action.
Back to Garner.
IF IF IF (WIOTOS) what the Swindon journalist says is true then I'm pleased.
We have a manager who's been allowed to bring in his own staff (a criticism of the Adkins appointment).
We have a young but experienced coach wanting to progress his career with us (you could argue we had similar with JJ but he wasn't given time/wasn't good enough).
We have a manager who, we hope, sees eye to eye with the owner and buys into the "model" that we plan to use.
Will it work? Possibly, if TS and MS don’t micro-manage BG, give him a large say in recruitment, fund said recruitment and give him time.
Will BG get all that? I don't know but at least some of us will have something different to look forward to and some others something different to moan about.
Sandgaard made the point about the pathway/ progression not just in regards to youth coming through but coaches too.
If, if, if we get Garner and his team in I'd take that as TS having a wake up call in regards to what it takes to getting out of this league and moving forwards, just plugging a random coach in to current set up - ala Adkins - isn't as straight forward or easy as it sounds, hopefully, that mind set will stretch to recruitment, ie the manger/ coach having more if an input into who comes in.
Could be the start of that Charlton resurrection right here.
Do you want to be ridiculed for positivity you fool!!!!😂😂 if you’re going to put you’re head above the parapet maybe you should have said Thomas is a good for nothing, bravado loving prick!!.😜😂
zzzzzzzzz
Have a Horlicks and a good night sleep, you’ll be ok in the morning.
If MS was responsible for signings last year and the loans in January, why is it said that Adkins had to be persuaded to take Dobson? And why is it that MS is reported to have told CW that it would be for the manager to decide if he would be offered a new contract? Sounds to me that our manager has and will have a big say in who we sign - hence we have not signed anyone as yet. Hopefully our new manager will be appointed early next week and we can start bringing in players that he would like.
I think there are a few on here that we’re calling TS a liar who may know that they should be posting some apologies. I won’t hold my breath.
We don't know if the wages are basic or if they include bonuses.
We don't even know if the figure is accurate.
But we're getting into "have you stopped beating you wife?" territory.
"High" wage = wasting money "Low" wage = doing it on the cheap.
Appoint a manager in days = rushed into it
Appoint a manager in five weeks = faffed about/season is already wasted.
They are plenty of valid reasons to question TS (such as MS and his role, his managerial appointments, his over promising, his rush to make things happen ie pushing fill the Valley too hard after the initial success) but some are looking to see a negative in every action or if no action then to see a negative in that same lack of action.
Back to Garner.
IF IF IF (WIOTOS) what the Swindon journalist says is true then I'm pleased.
We have a manager who's been allowed to bring in his own staff (a criticism of the Adkins appointment).
We have a young but experienced coach wanting to progress his career with us (you could argue we had similar with JJ but he wasn't given time/wasn't good enough).
We have a manager who, we hope, sees eye to eye with the owner and buys into the "model" that we plan to use.
Will it work? Possibly, if TS and MS don’t micro-manage BG, give him a large say in recruitment, fund said recruitment and give him time.
Will BG get all that? I don't know but at least some of us will have something different to look forward to and some others something different to moan about.
Sandgaard made the point about the pathway/ progression not just in regards to youth coming through but coaches too.
If, if, if we get Garner and his team in I'd take that as TS having a wake up call in regards to what it takes to getting out of this league and moving forwards, just plugging a random coach in to current set up - ala Adkins - isn't as straight forward or easy as it sounds, hopefully, that mind set will stretch to recruitment, ie the manger/ coach having more if an input into who comes in.
Could be the start of that Charlton resurrection right here.
Do you want to be ridiculed for positivity you fool!!!!😂😂 if you’re going to put you’re head above the parapet maybe you should have said Thomas is a good for nothing, bravado loving prick!!.😜😂
Apparently I have an agenda against Marty so, I'm on an even keel.
Plus I'm at a Spanish wedding so I'm pissed, which may have got the positivity tingling.
It seems like Garner is going to bring a shape and dynamism to the team. In itself that may not yield instant results because he will need the players to be able to execute the plan. In the short term it will be interesting to see how our current squad gets on. Maybe we will be pleasantly surprised on the upside with one or two of them - DJ?, Fraser? Morgan? Gilbey? My biggest about turn would be if Stockley manages to cut it.
I fancy it will increase the chances for younger players to get a look in if the team is more mobile as a unit, making them less vulnerable to strong-arm tactics.
After a couple of pretty dire seasons of Charlton watching, I am actually excited about the next part of the journey.
I do hope Chorley comes with, we need more experience in the building and Gallens recruitment has been very hit and miss, Chorley on the other hand seems to be getting it spot on.
Thought I'd pull up Garner/Chorley's signings from last season , lots of younger players that had been released from higher levels and a couple of non league talents too.
I welcome him and I am hopeful he can get some quality in and we can put the last 3 disappointing seasons behind us.
Who knows how well he’ll do. I just want us to start winning. Better football would be a bonus, but in general I tend to think overall, if you win consistently, the football tends to be decent as well.
Last season was dire. There were a couple of decent performances, the two Rotherham games, Plymouth and Ipswich at home, that was it. Prior to that the season before I think 60 minutes of the home 5-2 win over AFC Wimbledon and the 6-0 away at Plymouth. That’s 5 and 3 quarter good performances in 2 years. We’ve been starved of good football.
To the untrained eye such as mine, I would say most our team bar maybe Dobson and CBT are good enough to be in a promoted team, but maybe some some of the others like Stockley with better players around him, are good enough, I just can’t see it.
We need a big few weeks. No way this current crop, even with 3 or 4 quality additions are good enough.
If Garner can replicate what he did with Swindon last season, that’s a good start
A couple of observations about the reported £90k Garner is being offered a year by Charlton. Kind of throws into suspicion that any move for a target “more ambitious” than Beale seems, well slightly odd at best. Beale is not even number one at Villa and although he’s probably on one of the best packages around for number two I suspect anything “more ambitious” would attract significantly more than what’s being offered to Garner. I don’t doubt we’ve made contact with several “names” but I doubt it got very far. That’s not to say I’m disappointed if Garner is announced. I think he has something about his CV that might suit us very well. What I suspect is that we might well have fortuitously ended up with someone who was’nt high or even on our original list.
A couple of observations about the reported £90k Garner is being offered a year by Charlton. Kind of throws into suspicion that any move for a target “more ambitious” than Beale seems, well slightly odd at best. Beale is not even number one at Villa and although he’s probably on one of the best packages around for number two I suspect anything “more ambitious” would attract significantly more than what’s being offered to Garner. I don’t doubt we’ve made contact with several “names” but I doubt it got very far. That’s not to say I’m disappointed if Garner is announced. I think he has something about his CV that might suit us very well. What I suspect is that we might well have fortuitously ended up with someone who was’nt high or even on our original list.
If you look at the original tweet, that has fed the salary conversation it says
"Can also confirm it will be a 2-year deal for Garner at Charlton. Reported salary over that period is in excess of £180k #stfc"
Now people have taken that as 90k a year for two years.
If you Google average league 1 managers salary the result is, coincidentally, 180k a year. I suggest that he has googled the average and add excess in front of it.
He hasn't got a clue what his salary is and is making the assumption it's in excess of the average. Which is probably true. Its a non story IMO.
A couple of observations about the reported £90k Garner is being offered a year by Charlton. Kind of throws into suspicion that any move for a target “more ambitious” than Beale seems, well slightly odd at best. Beale is not even number one at Villa and although he’s probably on one of the best packages around for number two I suspect anything “more ambitious” would attract significantly more than what’s being offered to Garner. I don’t doubt we’ve made contact with several “names” but I doubt it got very far. That’s not to say I’m disappointed if Garner is announced. I think he has something about his CV that might suit us very well. What I suspect is that we might well have fortuitously ended up with someone who was’nt high or even on our original list.
Beale was on 600k a year as a coach .. you got Blackpool manager giving up his job to take the position at Villa …. money … Blackpool bring in Simon Grayson how much they paying their managers ?
A couple of observations about the reported £90k Garner is being offered a year by Charlton. Kind of throws into suspicion that any move for a target “more ambitious” than Beale seems, well slightly odd at best. Beale is not even number one at Villa and although he’s probably on one of the best packages around for number two I suspect anything “more ambitious” would attract significantly more than what’s being offered to Garner. I don’t doubt we’ve made contact with several “names” but I doubt it got very far. That’s not to say I’m disappointed if Garner is announced. I think he has something about his CV that might suit us very well. What I suspect is that we might well have fortuitously ended up with someone who was’nt high or even on our original list.
Beale was on 600k a year as a coach .. you got Blackpool manager giving up his job to take the position at Villa …. money … Blackpool bring in Simon Grayson how much they paying their managers ?
Simon Grayson hasn’t gone to Blackpool? That would be a terrible appointment, there’s no way they would be that stupid
A couple of observations about the reported £90k Garner is being offered a year by Charlton. Kind of throws into suspicion that any move for a target “more ambitious” than Beale seems, well slightly odd at best. Beale is not even number one at Villa and although he’s probably on one of the best packages around for number two I suspect anything “more ambitious” would attract significantly more than what’s being offered to Garner. I don’t doubt we’ve made contact with several “names” but I doubt it got very far. That’s not to say I’m disappointed if Garner is announced. I think he has something about his CV that might suit us very well. What I suspect is that we might well have fortuitously ended up with someone who was’nt high or even on our original list.
Beale was on 600k a year as a coach .. you got Blackpool manager giving up his job to take the position at Villa …. money … Blackpool bring in Simon Grayson how much they paying their managers ?
Assume you have lumped on Grayson at 7/2 because you have said it twice and there is not even a clickbait site reporting it.
A couple of observations about the reported £90k Garner is being offered a year by Charlton. Kind of throws into suspicion that any move for a target “more ambitious” than Beale seems, well slightly odd at best. Beale is not even number one at Villa and although he’s probably on one of the best packages around for number two I suspect anything “more ambitious” would attract significantly more than what’s being offered to Garner. I don’t doubt we’ve made contact with several “names” but I doubt it got very far. That’s not to say I’m disappointed if Garner is announced. I think he has something about his CV that might suit us very well. What I suspect is that we might well have fortuitously ended up with someone who was’nt high or even on our original list.
Beale was on 600k a year as a coach .. you got Blackpool manager giving up his job to take the position at Villa …. money … Blackpool bring in Simon Grayson how much they paying their managers ?
I know next to nothing about Garner but like every Charlton manager beforehand - I simply send him my warm best wishes for the challenge ahead. Fingers crossed it works out - and who knows it might just do that.
If and When x is announced they will become the 14th different permanent Manager/Head Coach of Charlton Athletic in the last 16 years since Alan Curbishley departed back in 2006.
The previous 16 years prior to that saw 3 in Curbishley, Gritt and Lawrence, being in charge.
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TS is our owner and should ultimately take the blame, but some of the things he’s getting criticised for are just way over the top.
The mighty Clough was nothing without Taylor.
A General needs to have officers around him that he trusts
If that’s the case then, I would suggest hiring a data expert rather than your son who needs a job may be the way to go
Rumours that Chorley left due to budget cuts seen wide of the mark.
And why is it that MS is reported to have told CW that it would be for the manager to decide if he would be offered a new contract?
Sounds to me that our manager has and will have a big say in who we sign - hence we have not signed anyone as yet.
Hopefully our new manager will be appointed early next week and we can start bringing in players that he would like.
I think there are a few on here that we’re calling TS a liar who may know that they should be posting some apologies. I won’t hold my breath.
Apparently I have an agenda against Marty so, I'm on an even keel.
Plus I'm at a Spanish wedding so I'm pissed, which may have got the positivity tingling.
I fancy it will increase the chances for younger players to get a look in if the team is more mobile as a unit, making them less vulnerable to strong-arm tactics.
After a couple of pretty dire seasons of Charlton watching, I am actually excited about the next part of the journey.
Thought I'd pull up Garner/Chorley's signings from last season , lots of younger players that had been released from higher levels and a couple of non league talents too.
To the untrained eye such as mine, I would say most our team bar maybe Dobson and CBT are good enough to be in a promoted team, but maybe some some of the others like Stockley with better players around him, are good enough, I just can’t see it.
We need a big few weeks. No way this current crop, even with 3 or 4 quality additions are good enough.
If Garner can replicate what he did with Swindon last season, that’s a good start
"Can also confirm it will be a 2-year deal for Garner at Charlton. Reported salary over that period is in excess of £180k #stfc"
Now people have taken that as 90k a year for two years.
If you Google average league 1 managers salary the result is, coincidentally, 180k a year. I suggest that he has googled the average and add excess in front of it.
He hasn't got a clue what his salary is and is making the assumption it's in excess of the average. Which is probably true. Its a non story IMO.