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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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Tend to agree here. No more excuses. We can’t keep rebuilding every summer.seth plum said:I am not that persuaded by the notion of being patient, I want wins and points from the beginning, we have been a work in progress for too long.0 -
Jackson had his chance, did you watch any of the games after his first 7 in charge?The Red Robin said:The same patience Jackson was given4 -
Charlton and England. Starting to wonder whose doorstep i shat on in a previous life to end up with these 2……13
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That’s down to the new incumbent and the most importantly the owner. 14 managers in 16 years is no case of a stable football club from current and past ownerspaulfox said:
I think if we have satisfactory recruitment and Garner shows he has a plan then he should get that. I’ve said all along patience is required and let’s judge everyone once the season is underway.🤞JamesSeed said:
And I fear we may have to be a little patient. Rome wasn't built in a day etc.paulfox said:I don’t have a clue if this will be a good or bad appointment, what I will do is judge and support him if he does indeed become our new manager by his performance with us.he deserves our support so hopefully he comes and gets us promotion.0 -
It’s more that our last three managers started really well. If this is a more radical shape up, it might be harder to do that.The Red Robin said:The same patience Jackson was given0 -
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We haven't really rebuilt any summer for a decade. Even in 18/19 we didn't sign many players just almost all of them were very good and exactly what we needed.The Red Robin said:
Tend to agree here. No more excuses. We can’t keep rebuilding every summer.seth plum said:I am not that persuaded by the notion of being patient, I want wins and points from the beginning, we have been a work in progress for too long.0 -
Euros. We got crunched by the giants of Croatia in the last WC and lost twice to Belgium if I remember correctly. Agree though, punching above our weight and/or flattering to deceive since 66.JamesSeed said:
Weren’t we runners up in the last World Cup? Punching above our weight really.RoanRedNY said:Charlton and England. Starting to wonder whose doorstep i shat on in a previous life to end up with these 2……0 -
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It goes hand in hand, if the manager and team do well, the manager keeps his job and the heat is in turn taken off the owner, until people want to find something else wrong.shirty5 said:
That’s down to the new incumbent and the most importantly the owner. 14 managers in 16 years is no case of a stable football club from current and past ownerspaulfox said:
I think if we have satisfactory recruitment and Garner shows he has a plan then he should get that. I’ve said all along patience is required and let’s judge everyone once the season is underway.🤞JamesSeed said:
And I fear we may have to be a little patient. Rome wasn't built in a day etc.paulfox said:I don’t have a clue if this will be a good or bad appointment, what I will do is judge and support him if he does indeed become our new manager by his performance with us.he deserves our support so hopefully he comes and gets us promotion.0 -
Who are these people who want to find something else wrong?paulfox said:
It goes hand in hand, if the manager and team do well, the manager keeps his job and the heat is in turn taken off the owner, until people want to find something else wrong.shirty5 said:
That’s down to the new incumbent and the most importantly the owner. 14 managers in 16 years is no case of a stable football club from current and past ownerspaulfox said:
I think if we have satisfactory recruitment and Garner shows he has a plan then he should get that. I’ve said all along patience is required and let’s judge everyone once the season is underway.🤞JamesSeed said:
And I fear we may have to be a little patient. Rome wasn't built in a day etc.paulfox said:I don’t have a clue if this will be a good or bad appointment, what I will do is judge and support him if he does indeed become our new manager by his performance with us.he deserves our support so hopefully he comes and gets us promotion.4 -
Don’t know yet, it hasn’t happened, eventually there will be . Do you want to ask any more shite questions to put someone in there place?shirty5 said:
Who are these people who want to find something else wrong?paulfox said:
It goes hand in hand, if the manager and team do well, the manager keeps his job and the heat is in turn taken off the owner, until people want to find something else wrong.shirty5 said:
That’s down to the new incumbent and the most importantly the owner. 14 managers in 16 years is no case of a stable football club from current and past ownerspaulfox said:
I think if we have satisfactory recruitment and Garner shows he has a plan then he should get that. I’ve said all along patience is required and let’s judge everyone once the season is underway.🤞JamesSeed said:
And I fear we may have to be a little patient. Rome wasn't built in a day etc.paulfox said:I don’t have a clue if this will be a good or bad appointment, what I will do is judge and support him if he does indeed become our new manager by his performance with us.he deserves our support so hopefully he comes and gets us promotion.0 -
I will ask as many questions as I like until I’m kicked off this forumpaulfox said:
Don’t know yet, it hasn’t happened, eventually there will be . Do you want to ask any more shite questions to put someone in there place?shirty5 said:
Who are these people who want to find something else wrong?paulfox said:
It goes hand in hand, if the manager and team do well, the manager keeps his job and the heat is in turn taken off the owner, until people want to find something else wrong.shirty5 said:
That’s down to the new incumbent and the most importantly the owner. 14 managers in 16 years is no case of a stable football club from current and past ownerspaulfox said:
I think if we have satisfactory recruitment and Garner shows he has a plan then he should get that. I’ve said all along patience is required and let’s judge everyone once the season is underway.🤞JamesSeed said:
And I fear we may have to be a little patient. Rome wasn't built in a day etc.paulfox said:I don’t have a clue if this will be a good or bad appointment, what I will do is judge and support him if he does indeed become our new manager by his performance with us.he deserves our support so hopefully he comes and gets us promotion.10 -
As it seems we are now only waiting for confirmation to appear on the official site, perhaps it's time to reflect that this thread may soon be confined to the anal's.
It's been an emotional rollercoaster fellow Lifer's, with several protracted heated debates and deviations off thread.
After 225 pages and counting, I felt it only right to say a few words. I'm sure I speak for all in saying that I shall mourn it's passing as it will leave a big hole. 🤧1 -
Good for you. Wouldn’t have it any other way👍shirty5 said:
I will ask as many questions as I like until I’m kicked off this forumpaulfox said:
Don’t know yet, it hasn’t happened, eventually there will be . Do you want to ask any more shite questions to put someone in there place?shirty5 said:
Who are these people who want to find something else wrong?paulfox said:
It goes hand in hand, if the manager and team do well, the manager keeps his job and the heat is in turn taken off the owner, until people want to find something else wrong.shirty5 said:
That’s down to the new incumbent and the most importantly the owner. 14 managers in 16 years is no case of a stable football club from current and past ownerspaulfox said:
I think if we have satisfactory recruitment and Garner shows he has a plan then he should get that. I’ve said all along patience is required and let’s judge everyone once the season is underway.🤞JamesSeed said:
And I fear we may have to be a little patient. Rome wasn't built in a day etc.paulfox said:I don’t have a clue if this will be a good or bad appointment, what I will do is judge and support him if he does indeed become our new manager by his performance with us.he deserves our support so hopefully he comes and gets us promotion.0 -
Oh come on!! Anal and big hole in the same post, you know Kenneth Williams is popping up some time soon!!😂🤣swordfish said:As it seems we are now only waiting for confirmation to appear on the official site, perhaps it's time to reflect that this thread may soon be confined to the anal's.
It's been an emotional rollercoaster fellow Lifer's, with several protracted heated debates and deviations off thread.
After 225 pages and counting, I felt it only right to say a few words. I'm sure I speak for all in saying that I shall mourn it's passing as it will leave a big hole. 🤧4 -
Let’s not bicker. Be happy we’ve moved forward3
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Both Belgium games were dead rubbers.RoanRedNY said:
Euros. We got crunched by the giants of Croatia in the last WC and lost twice to Belgium if I remember correctly. Agree though, punching above our weight and/or flattering to deceive since 66.JamesSeed said:
Weren’t we runners up in the last World Cup? Punching above our weight really.RoanRedNY said:Charlton and England. Starting to wonder whose doorstep i shat on in a previous life to end up with these 2……0 -
I'll be gutted if it doesn't. Not a fish pun BTW.paulfox said:
Oh come on!! Anal and big hole in the same post, you know Kenneth Williams is popping up some time soon!!😂🤣swordfish said:As it seems we are now only waiting for confirmation to appear on the official site, perhaps it's time to reflect that this thread may soon be confined to the anal's.
It's been an emotional rollercoaster fellow Lifer's, with several protracted heated debates and deviations off thread.
After 225 pages and counting, I felt it only right to say a few words. I'm sure I speak for all in saying that I shall mourn it's passing as it will leave a big hole. 🤧3 - Sponsored links:
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Safe to say THomas couldn’t confirm it last week because it wasn’t confirmed - so he’s not a liar he’s just dealing with what was accurate at the time.
time will tell soon enough if it’s the right appointment but hopefully a new coaching setup as well as those already there - will give us more of a sense of identity. I look forward to it if it’s true.A couple of weeks ago I had a long chat with one of the senior employees at Charlton. He said the following
”Thomas doesn’t get involved in the day to day squad stuff, and doesn’t choose the transfers and leaves that to others more qualified. He just signs the cheques
Are things perfect? - No they aren’t. Have mistakes been made? - yes they have but we are definitely going in the right direction. This is as stable as the club has been at any time in the last five years”
There were plenty of other things discussed but I felt it was quite important to point out that there is so much that happens, is said and is done that we don’t get to hear about. Even when it looks like there is nothing happening there is usually a shit load going on. Last season was crap - we all know that. But if we can get behind whoever the new manager turns out to be and support this team we might see it pay dividends. A toxic atmosphere helps no-one but the opposition
im excited for pre season, and excited to see us playing some entertaining football for the first time in a while but what I REALLY want to have is a more unified fan base getting behind the team and a team that understands the journey we want to go on.Fingers crossed
as I’ve said many times, it’s never been easy being a Charlton fan but I’ll never stop being one66 -
No one knows. Why are so many desperate to be outraged & negative?paulfox said:I don’t have a clue if this will be a good or bad appointment, what I will do is judge and support him if he does indeed become our new manager by his performance with us.he deserves our support so hopefully he comes and gets us promotion.
It's more a reflection on them than TS.
Let's try & be sensible and see what happens. Reading the negativity is exhausting.13 -
Well said.👍Swisdom said:Safe to say THomas couldn’t confirm it last week because it wasn’t confirmed - so he’s not a liar he’s just dealing with what was accurate at the time.
time will tell soon enough if it’s the right appointment but hopefully a new coaching setup as well as those already there - will give us more of a sense of identity. I look forward to it if it’s true.A couple of weeks ago I had a long chat with one of the senior employees at Charlton. He said the following
”Thomas doesn’t get involved in the day to day squad stuff, and doesn’t choose the transfers and leaves that to others more qualified. He just signs the cheques
Are things perfect? - No they aren’t. Have mistakes been made? - yes they have but we are definitely going in the right direction. This is as stable as the club has been at any time in the last five years”
There were plenty of other things discussed but I felt it was quite important to point out that there is so much that happens, is said and is done that we don’t get to hear about. Even when it looks like there is nothing happening there is usually a shit load going on. Last season was crap - we all know that. But if we can get behind whoever the new manager turns out to be and support this team we might see it pay dividends. A toxic atmosphere helps no-one but the opposition
im excited for pre season, and excited to see us playing some entertaining football for the first time in a while but what I REALLY want to have is a more unified fan base getting behind the team and a team that understands the journey we want to go on.Fingers crossed
as I’ve said many times, it’s never been easy being a Charlton fan but I’ll never stop being one7 -
It really doesn't matter that much away from the Internet world.Cafc43v3r said:Well Cawley is sticking to his story.
Just need Thomas to deny it to complete the loop.1 -
Ok, I'll take the bait...swordfish said:
I'll be gutted if it doesn't. Not a fish pun BTW.paulfox said:
Oh come on!! Anal and big hole in the same post, you know Kenneth Williams is popping up some time soon!!😂🤣swordfish said:As it seems we are now only waiting for confirmation to appear on the official site, perhaps it's time to reflect that this thread may soon be confined to the anal's.
It's been an emotional rollercoaster fellow Lifer's, with several protracted heated debates and deviations off thread.
After 225 pages and counting, I felt it only right to say a few words. I'm sure I speak for all in saying that I shall mourn it's passing as it will leave a big hole. 🤧
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Cawley saying “done deal” is a journalist breaking a story based on a certain degree of finality to proceedings
Thomas saying “ it’s not done yet” is a businessman who knows it’s not done until the ink is dry.
Turns out both can be valid33 -
No. It doesn't matter at all in the grand scheme of things. He shouldn't be saying anything, to anyone about it. I he thought Swindon would just sit on it, for 10 days, he is naive a best.Covered End said:
It really doesn't matter that much away from the Internet world.Cafc43v3r said:Well Cawley is sticking to his story.
Just need Thomas to deny it to complete the loop.
Almost all of the criticism Thomas gets, fair or other wise, comes from what he says.1 -
Well done mate, appreciated👍eastterrace6168 said:
Ok, I'll take the bait...swordfish said:
I'll be gutted if it doesn't. Not a fish pun BTW.paulfox said:
Oh come on!! Anal and big hole in the same post, you know Kenneth Williams is popping up some time soon!!😂🤣swordfish said:As it seems we are now only waiting for confirmation to appear on the official site, perhaps it's time to reflect that this thread may soon be confined to the anal's.
It's been an emotional rollercoaster fellow Lifer's, with several protracted heated debates and deviations off thread.
After 225 pages and counting, I felt it only right to say a few words. I'm sure I speak for all in saying that I shall mourn it's passing as it will leave a big hole. 🤧
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What about his son?Swisdom said:Safe to say THomas couldn’t confirm it last week because it wasn’t confirmed - so he’s not a liar he’s just dealing with what was accurate at the time.
time will tell soon enough if it’s the right appointment but hopefully a new coaching setup as well as those already there - will give us more of a sense of identity. I look forward to it if it’s true.A couple of weeks ago I had a long chat with one of the senior employees at Charlton. He said the following
”Thomas doesn’t get involved in the day to day squad stuff, and doesn’t choose the transfers and leaves that to others more qualified. He just signs the cheques
Are things perfect? - No they aren’t. Have mistakes been made? - yes they have but we are definitely going in the right direction. This is as stable as the club has been at any time in the last five years”
There were plenty of other things discussed but I felt it was quite important to point out that there is so much that happens, is said and is done that we don’t get to hear about. Even when it looks like there is nothing happening there is usually a shit load going on. Last season was crap - we all know that. But if we can get behind whoever the new manager turns out to be and support this team we might see it pay dividends. A toxic atmosphere helps no-one but the opposition
im excited for pre season, and excited to see us playing some entertaining football for the first time in a while but what I REALLY want to have is a more unified fan base getting behind the team and a team that understands the journey we want to go on.Fingers crossed
as I’ve said many times, it’s never been easy being a Charlton fan but I’ll never stop being one7 -
Ok, I'm going to look at this in a more hopeful optimistic manner. As someone alluded to above perhaps this is taking a long time because BG has insisted on some of the ways of operating as a club as he sees fit and correct, starting with getting his own team in.
Maybe he is a persuasive guy who will get TS to change his ideas.
Maybe, just maybe..........2
