I’ve just got this horrible feeling it’s gonna be Neil Lennon 😐
I don't get the Lennon link at all. As in where does it come from? Even someone like Mick Mccarthy you can make some sort of logical explanation why the bookies might think it possible. Lives local etc etc.
But Lennon and Kean I just don't see how anyone has put that together. Unless they are actively pushing for the job.
Saying all that Laudrup was short priced last time and Adkins wasn't even mentioned until the day before he got the job. I don't think Robinson was either.
Matt Taylor or Michael Beale would be my picks at this point but no idea if either would be a success. After the last few years, there doesn’t seem to be any logic when it comes to Charlton.
I’d be very happy with either of those two. Whoever it is has to be allowed significant input into signings and style of play. If you want them to continue be successful, back their expertise rather than force your own naive ideas into them.
Matt Taylor or Michael Beale would be my picks at this point but no idea if either would be a success. After the last few years, there doesn’t seem to be any logic when it comes to Charlton.
I’d be very happy with either of those two. Whoever it is has to be allowed significant input into signings and style of play. If you want them to continue be successful, back their expertise rather than force your own naive ideas into them.
I don’t see the issue around style of play - if an owner wants the team to broadly play a certain way (as long as the manager has room to be flexible in certain scenarios) they need to hire a manager that plays that way. I’m sure a lot of owners do it, including those who are running clubs successfully.
If you owned the club you probably wouldn’t hire a manager who plays defensive long ball football would you? Unless you like that style.
Typical Nixon - we've spoken to someone but it definitely isn't happening. Has to say something to look like he's ITK but won't put a name on it just in case it comes back to bite him.
Matt Taylor or Michael Beale would be my picks at this point but no idea if either would be a success. After the last few years, there doesn’t seem to be any logic when it comes to Charlton.
I’d be very happy with either of those two. Whoever it is has to be allowed significant input into signings and style of play. If you want them to continue be successful, back their expertise rather than force your own naive ideas into them.
I don’t see the issue around style of play - if an owner wants the team to broadly play a certain way (as long as the manager has room to be flexible in certain scenarios) they need to hire a manager that plays that way. I’m sure a lot of owners do it, including those who are running clubs successfully.
If you owned the club you probably wouldn’t hire a manager who plays defensive long ball football would you? Unless you like that style.
True - but if you want a certain style of play you have to let the manager decide on formation, structure and the type of player they want. Do you think Adkins was allowed to do that?
Matt Taylor or Michael Beale would be my picks at this point but no idea if either would be a success. After the last few years, there doesn’t seem to be any logic when it comes to Charlton.
I’d be very happy with either of those two. Whoever it is has to be allowed significant input into signings and style of play. If you want them to continue be successful, back their expertise rather than force your own naive ideas into them.
I don’t see the issue around style of play - if an owner wants the team to broadly play a certain way (as long as the manager has room to be flexible in certain scenarios) they need to hire a manager that plays that way. I’m sure a lot of owners do it, including those who are running clubs successfully.
If you owned the club you probably wouldn’t hire a manager who plays defensive long ball football would you? Unless you like that style.
True - but if you want a certain style of play you have to let the manager decide on formation, structure and the type of player they want. Do you think Adkins was allowed to do that?
Agree but do we know that TS is pushing for more than a broad style, i.e. play out from the back, high tempo attacking football and a high press? I doubt he's forcing a formation and precise tactics onto managers.
I think we all agree Adkins didn't get the support he needed in the window. Changes have been made (Roddy leaving for one) and hopefully lessons learnt. TS knows we moved too slowly, it really shouldn't happen again.
Matt Taylor or Michael Beale would be my picks at this point but no idea if either would be a success. After the last few years, there doesn’t seem to be any logic when it comes to Charlton.
I’d be very happy with either of those two. Whoever it is has to be allowed significant input into signings and style of play. If you want them to continue be successful, back their expertise rather than force your own naive ideas into them.
I don’t see the issue around style of play - if an owner wants the team to broadly play a certain way (as long as the manager has room to be flexible in certain scenarios) they need to hire a manager that plays that way. I’m sure a lot of owners do it, including those who are running clubs successfully.
If you owned the club you probably wouldn’t hire a manager who plays defensive long ball football would you? Unless you like that style.
True - but if you want a certain style of play you have to let the manager decide on formation, structure and the type of player they want. Do you think Adkins was allowed to do that?
Agree but do we know that TS is pushing for more than a broad style, i.e. play out from the back, high tempo attacking football and a high press? I doubt he's forcing a formation and precise tactics onto managers.
I think we all agree Adkins didn't get the support he needed in the window. Changes have been made (Roddy leaving for one) and hopefully lessons learnt. TS knows we moved too slowly, it really shouldn't happen again.
A lot of chatter last summer that the club/owner wanted a 4-3-3 and players (like Kirk), were signed on that basis.
If I had to bet on it, I would say we have targets which we won't get and this will drag on and on because I don't believe the capacity to learn is there. I desperately want to be proven wrong but am at a point where I need to see some evidence. This club has made me cynical. We should have kept Jacko and backed him.
Signing Marquis is a sure sign that we have no ambition. He wont get us promoted & doubt he'd sign to be cover for Stockley.
Marquis is a very good league one goalscorer and to get him for 12 months would not be a bad bit if business Stockley Aneke Marquis and one other not a bad 4 at this level
Signing Marquis is a sure sign that we have no ambition. He wont get us promoted & doubt he'd sign to be cover for Stockley.
Marquis is a very good league one goalscorer and to get him for 12 months would not be a bad bit if business Stockley Aneke Marquis and one other not a bad 4 at this level
Agreed.
We also don’t know his domestic circumstances. At 30 I suspect being close to home might be important to him.
Matt Taylor or Michael Beale would be my picks at this point but no idea if either would be a success. After the last few years, there doesn’t seem to be any logic when it comes to Charlton.
I’d be very happy with either of those two. Whoever it is has to be allowed significant input into signings and style of play. If you want them to continue be successful, back their expertise rather than force your own naive ideas into them.
I don’t see the issue around style of play - if an owner wants the team to broadly play a certain way (as long as the manager has room to be flexible in certain scenarios) they need to hire a manager that plays that way. I’m sure a lot of owners do it, including those who are running clubs successfully.
If you owned the club you probably wouldn’t hire a manager who plays defensive long ball football would you? Unless you like that style.
True - but if you want a certain style of play you have to let the manager decide on formation, structure and the type of player they want. Do you think Adkins was allowed to do that?
Agree but do we know that TS is pushing for more than a broad style, i.e. play out from the back, high tempo attacking football and a high press? I doubt he's forcing a formation and precise tactics onto managers.
I think we all agree Adkins didn't get the support he needed in the window. Changes have been made (Roddy leaving for one) and hopefully lessons learnt. TS knows we moved too slowly, it really shouldn't happen again.
A lot of chatter last summer that the club/owner wanted a 4-3-3 and players (like Kirk), were signed on that basis.
This, imo, was the biggest problem last year. Even bigger than the players not being good enough and coming in too late and not match fit.
No one gave enough consideration to what the players specific job and role was. Just the position they played in.
He is a good left winger , get him. He is a good such and such get him. He can do a job there etc etc.
The squad lacked natural combinations and the key components of a good team. On paper it was a better squad than on grass and it was the sort of squad one of us would probably put together, including me.
So who is he having talks with, the current owners or the new (possible) owners? Why would the current owners sack Bowyer & pay out compensation if you've got a new crowd coming in ? it doesn't make sense.
Is it legal to interview for a job where there is someone already in place?
Yes, immortal but legal.
Its how you sack the incumbent that's the issue. 99% of manager sackings aren't actually technically sackings are they.
I was going to use this as an example in the lol thread until I re read it and saw my own typo!
Warburton on Sky was just asked about being linked with us and Brum. He said he wouldn’t discuss it while people were in jobs and way it was discussed was that the club he was interested in taking over had a manager there, still in a job.
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But Lennon and Kean I just don't see how anyone has put that together. Unless they are actively pushing for the job.
Saying all that Laudrup was short priced last time and Adkins wasn't even mentioned until the day before he got the job. I don't think Robinson was either.
If you owned the club you probably wouldn’t hire a manager who plays defensive long ball football would you? Unless you like that style.
I think we all agree Adkins didn't get the support he needed in the window. Changes have been made (Roddy leaving for one) and hopefully lessons learnt. TS knows we moved too slowly, it really shouldn't happen again.
yes, he was sat in my row at the Lincoln game 😳😩😔
We also don’t know his domestic circumstances. At 30 I suspect being close to home might be important to him.
No one gave enough consideration to what the players specific job and role was. Just the position they played in.
He is a good left winger , get him. He is a good such and such get him. He can do a job there etc etc.
The squad lacked natural combinations and the key components of a good team. On paper it was a better squad than on grass and it was the sort of squad one of us would probably put together, including me.