Ryan Wilson had lived in England for 10 years by the time of his England U16 schoolboy international. Just after this he changed his name to his Mum's name of Giggs. Ironically the schoolboy rule was changed in 2009 if they went to school here or have lived in England for a set period. which is why so many players can now play for England despite neither themselves or their parents born in England.
Wilf Zaha played for England all the way up to a full International before deciding to play for the place of his and his parents birth: Ivory coast. The point of no return is if it's a competitive match.
The previous rule was daft. When someone moves to this country as a young child, whether from another part of the UK or abroad, it's perfectly reasonable for them to play for the country where they grew up and were educated. It would be daft if someone like Raheem Sterling, who's lived here since he was 5 couldn't play for England, whereas someone like Owen Hargreaves who was born and raised in Canada could, because he has an English parent.
I’m out in Malta already for the game at the end of this week.
4,000 England fans due over here - which is outrageous support.
Could get a bit lively, especially with shot deals like this on
Is it?
Yes. It’s bloody brilliant support, considering many football fans in this country seem to care very little about qualifiers against smaller nations.
Yet 4,000 people will be stumping up north of £500 (as a bare minimum) on flights, hotels etc and at least 2-3 days of their time just to see England play in a game that is likely a massive formality.
Would love to hear your counter argument as to how it’s not considered great support….
I’m out in Malta already for the game at the end of this week.
4,000 England fans due over here - which is outrageous support.
Could get a bit lively, especially with shot deals like this on
Is it?
Yes. It’s bloody brilliant support, considering many football fans in this country seem to care very little about qualifiers against smaller nations.
Yet 4,000 people will be stumping up north of £500 (as a bare minimum) on flights, hotels etc and at least 2-3 days of their time just to see England play in a game that is likely a massive formality.
Would love to hear your counter argument as to how it’s not considered great support….
I’m not sure a country of ~60M taking 4,000 to a holiday resort in June for a guaranteed win is much to get excited about.
I’m out in Malta already for the game at the end of this week.
4,000 England fans due over here - which is outrageous support.
Could get a bit lively, especially with shot deals like this on
Is it?
Yes. It’s bloody brilliant support, considering many football fans in this country seem to care very little about qualifiers against smaller nations.
Yet 4,000 people will be stumping up north of £500 (as a bare minimum) on flights, hotels etc and at least 2-3 days of their time just to see England play in a game that is likely a massive formality.
Would love to hear your counter argument as to how it’s not considered great support….
I had everything sorted for Malta away, come to around £600 but didnt get a ticket so cancelled. Couldnt really justify a 3 day break on my own to watch it on a tv near the ground.
I’m out in Malta already for the game at the end of this week.
4,000 England fans due over here - which is outrageous support.
Could get a bit lively, especially with shot deals like this on
Is it?
Yes. It’s bloody brilliant support, considering many football fans in this country seem to care very little about qualifiers against smaller nations.
Yet 4,000 people will be stumping up north of £500 (as a bare minimum) on flights, hotels etc and at least 2-3 days of their time just to see England play in a game that is likely a massive formality.
Would love to hear your counter argument as to how it’s not considered great support….
I had everything sorted for Malta away, come to around £600 but didnt get a ticket so cancelled. Couldnt really justify a 3 day break on my own to watch it on a tv near the ground.
Have a good one mate.
That’s a shame mate. I was actually in the same boat as you at one point and had to rely on the second chance sale to get a ticket. Over 7,000 fans applied for tickets via the supporters club. Which again, is bloody great support and I don’t care what anyone says to try and downplay it.
It’s going to take a few more away games to build up my caps so that I don’t have to go through the ballot every time. Do you do many of the home games?
I’m out in Malta already for the game at the end of this week.
4,000 England fans due over here - which is outrageous support.
Could get a bit lively, especially with shot deals like this on
Is it?
Yes. It’s bloody brilliant support, considering many football fans in this country seem to care very little about qualifiers against smaller nations.
Yet 4,000 people will be stumping up north of £500 (as a bare minimum) on flights, hotels etc and at least 2-3 days of their time just to see England play in a game that is likely a massive formality.
Would love to hear your counter argument as to how it’s not considered great support….
I had everything sorted for Malta away, come to around £600 but didnt get a ticket so cancelled. Couldnt really justify a 3 day break on my own to watch it on a tv near the ground.
Have a good one mate.
That’s a shame mate. I was actually in the same boat as you at one point and had to rely on the second chance sale to get a ticket. Over 7,000 fans applied for tickets via the supporters club. Which again, is bloody great support and I don’t care what anyone says to try and downplay it.
It’s going to take a few more away games to build up my caps so that I don’t have to go through the ballot every time. Do you do many of the home games?
Yeah im going OT on Monday, and will do all the rest of the home qualifiers. I think my main objective is to build my caps up in time for the 2026 World Cup.
I will go out to Germany for the Euro's regardless if I have tickets or not.
North Macedonia away looks difficult to get from a travel perspective. Considering if I get a ticket staying in Greece/Thessorski and hopefully get space on one of the coaches.
Not doing any of the qualifiers but will be out in Germany for the 1st 2 group games in 2024. hoping for group b which is berlin and dortmund
Loving that it looks like the venues are all mixed up in each group…
Group B as an example has it’s six group games across Berlin, Dortmund, Hamburg, Gelsenkirchen, Düsseldorf and Leipzig.
One of the things that won’t matter to most people (and keeping teams in specific locales is much cheaper if you’re following a specific side I suppose) but makes a refresh change IMO. I got tired of seeing England playing all their games at Wembley in London in 2021 and Al-Bayt in Qatar last year…
Ryan Wilson had lived in England for 10 years by the time of his England U16 schoolboy international. Just after this he changed his name to his Mum's name of Giggs. Ironically the schoolboy rule was changed in 2009 if they went to school here or have lived in England for a set period. which is why so many players can now play for England despite neither themselves or their parents born in England.
Wilf Zaha played for England all the way up to a full International before deciding to play for the place of his and his parents birth: Ivory coast. The point of no return is if it's a competitive match.
The previous rule was daft. When someone moves to this country as a young child, whether from another part of the UK or abroad, it's perfectly reasonable for them to play for the country where they grew up and were educated. It would be daft if someone like Raheem Sterling, who's lived here since he was 5 couldn't play for England, whereas someone like Owen Hargreaves who was born and raised in Canada could, because he has an English parent.
Eventually, there will be transfer fees for international teams. Abu Dhabi to win the 2050 World Cup.
Germany is going to be brilliant watching 3-4 games a day in the bars good weather plus the fun of Watching England & meeting up with our supporters from up & down the country already getting excited ha Can't wait
For Germany I’m thinking of staying in the West of the country, as there are 4 stadiums dotted together (Dortmund, Schalke, Cologne and Düsseldorf I think).
Would like to see the England games live but also take in as many others as possible, like in Qatar.
Germany is going to be brilliant watching 3-4 games a day in the bars good weather plus the fun of Watching England & meeting up with our supporters from up & down the country already getting excited ha Can't wait
Only problem with the Euro's being in a major country that is easy and cheap to get to, is it's going to attract an overwhelming number of dickheads, same as the Nations league finals in Portugal.
For all its faults the World Cup in Qatar was great because there was absolutely no aggro at all and fans from all over the world were drinking together.
In Germany you can bet your life our fans will be on the front pages before our first game has even kicked off.
Germany is going to be brilliant watching 3-4 games a day in the bars good weather plus the fun of Watching England & meeting up with our supporters from up & down the country already getting excited ha Can't wait
Only problem with the Euro's being in a major country that is easy and cheap to get to, is it's going to attract an overwhelming number of dickheads, same as the Nations league finals in Portugal.
For all its faults the World Cup in Qatar was great because there was absolutely no aggro at all and fans from all over the world were drinking together.
In Germany you can bet your life our fans will be on the front pages before our first game has even kicked off.
Yea there is always trouble at the Euro's & Germany will be the same just got to keep your wit's about you There will be bars that will be a mixture of supporter's away from the main areas always is but your right the English will be in the thick of it as usual
I’m out in Malta already for the game at the end of this week.
4,000 England fans due over here - which is outrageous support.
Could get a bit lively, especially with shot deals like this on
Is it?
Yes. It’s bloody brilliant support, considering many football fans in this country seem to care very little about qualifiers against smaller nations.
Yet 4,000 people will be stumping up north of £500 (as a bare minimum) on flights, hotels etc and at least 2-3 days of their time just to see England play in a game that is likely a massive formality.
Would love to hear your counter argument as to how it’s not considered great support….
To be fair Tom, I don’t it’s the game itself that is the draw…I suspect we won’t have 4K in Macedonia in Nov.
I think it’s decent support but the jocks and Irish would probably take similar from a far smaller support base.
North Macedonia away looks difficult to get from a travel perspective. Considering if I get a ticket staying in Greece/Thessorski and hopefully get space on one of the coaches.
Have you explored going via Sofia That’s what we’re doing and someone is running a coach between. Sofia is cheep and cheerful too 😉
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Yet 4,000 people will be stumping up north of £500 (as a bare minimum) on flights, hotels etc and at least 2-3 days of their time just to see England play in a game that is likely a massive formality.
Would love to hear your counter argument as to how it’s not considered great support….
England population 56m
Have a good one mate.
I will go out to Germany for the Euro's regardless if I have tickets or not.
Group B as an example has it’s six group games across Berlin, Dortmund, Hamburg, Gelsenkirchen, Düsseldorf and Leipzig.
One of the things that won’t matter to most people (and keeping teams in specific locales is much cheaper if you’re following a specific side I suppose) but makes a refresh change IMO. I got tired of seeing England playing all their games at Wembley in London in 2021 and Al-Bayt in Qatar last year…
plus the fun of Watching England & meeting up with our supporters from up & down the country
already getting excited ha Can't wait
For all its faults the World Cup in Qatar was great because there was absolutely no aggro at all and fans from all over the world were drinking together.
In Germany you can bet your life our fans will be on the front pages before our first game has even kicked off.
There will be bars that will be a mixture of supporter's away from the main areas always is but your right the English will be in the thick of it as usual
I think it’s decent support but the jocks and Irish would probably take similar from a far smaller support base.
Yes, i’m a tad jealous I’m not going!