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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic vs Peterborough | Boxing Day 2022
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Fraser was the main one at fault for their goal. He gave the ball away in our half which led to their corner, something he does way too often.6
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For the first half it was more a case of 'losing the ball very intently' most of the time. They're different ways of playing and they work in different ways at different timesct_addick said:Like what Holden was saying about playing with a purpose in the other teams half….hopefully Garnerball behind us0 -
I'm very, very, very reluctant to blame people for goals from corners when their error only led to the concession of the corner. Defend the corner!Southbank said:Fraser was the main one at fault for their goal. He gave the ball away in our half which led to their corner, something he does way too often.16 -
Wasn't there, would have liked a win, wouldn't we all but considering how things have been of late, not a bad result.
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Don't see how some was pleased with that performance 1-0 up & on top of the game we should have gone on & won but once again slack defending & missing sitters cost us 2 points
Personally I am well pissed off with our game2 -
how did Kanu look?0
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Slightly more resilience I thought. Can't buy a win at present. Need to though otherwise a relegation fight is in store. Think Rak Saki is on his way back to palace and not too fussed about it. Leaburn will get better once he has regained full fitness. Transfers will be key but not to pushing for play offs sadly0
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At least we have stopped the rot of 3 league defeats & hopefully the young lads will start to grow in confidence. If we can get positive results in the next 2 games and get some decent recruits in, start of January, we will climb away from the bottom half of the table.0
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That’s the risk/reward you get with him. If it comes off, which it does more often then not, it usually releases big pressure and gets us on the front foot.Southbank said:Fraser was the main one at fault for their goal. He gave the ball away in our half which led to their corner, something he does way too often.
Also as Leuth mentions it was not his fault we went to sleep defending a routine corner afterwards.4 -
Not good enough
Total rebuild required
That's it.4 -
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First half was a dull a ditchwater. Neither team looking very good. Thought we were lucky to go in level, but bad luck and bad decision making kept them at bay. Second half we came out looking like we had nothing to fear. Quickly got the goal we deserved and just as quickly gifted them an equaliser. Couple of good chances to win it. I can forgive Claire's miss which was under pressure , but Rak Sakhi - how can a footballer we gets himself into such good positions, be so wasteful in possession?2
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After been bored totally by Garners style (with players not able to play his method) at least in the 2nd half we had a proper go, defenders cleared the lines, midfielders chased and played forwards, 2 forwards putting the oppo defenders under pressure.
The aim of this sport is to win, worrying about how you win/play is a lot further down the road for us7 -
Apart from the movement and cross for Leaburn's goal he looked a little lost and lightweight. On coming back to defend he was brushed off the ball far too easily, which led to good chances for them. He is a work in progress, but in this league he has to be physically stronger. I have high hopes for his future and his instinct around the box, but at the moment I would probably prefer Stockley's physicality.The Red Robin said:how did Kanu look?7 -
First half was a bit dross or certainly not worthy of many memories. Second half ….When we have the confidence to play the ball on the ground ; or play little over the top balls we look like we are 1 player short of lots of goalsOur goal was one of few proper decent moves. After we missed the two big chances I sad to my boy - I’d take 1-1 now and so I will
Dobson has a good football brain imho1 -
Thank you. Definitely one I’d like to see with us long-term (I know) considering his record at youth level. We’re obviously having to throw youngsters earlier than we’d like.altrinchamaddick said:
Apart from the movement and cross for Leaburn's goal he looked a little lost and lightweight. On coming back to defend he was brushed off the ball far too easily, which led to good chances for them. He is a work in progress, but in this league he has to be physically stronger. I have high hopes for his future and his instinct around the box, but at the moment I would probably prefer Stockley's physicality.The Red Robin said:how did Kanu look?0 -
Should have won the game if we knew how to take our chances but we don’t.
gave the ball away to much and as usual we were done by a set piece.
a fair result in the End.
we still need a proper striker and full Back.
if we don’t invest in January we will do nothing.
why do we keep playing Donkey Stockley ?
he is so bloody slow.
I thought the new manager made several good observations please god he gets the backing he will need to sort this team out ?
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No. 🤔eastterrace6168 said:ffs, i know we drew today when we should have maybe done a bit better, but don't you get pissed off with Mr Perfect Browny giving his i would have done better analysis...🤷♂️8 -
There's something about a big lumbering centre back that pierces my very heart, what can I sayCallumcafc said:1 -
First half he looked like any striker would when his team mates are not threading through passes to him that he can turn into a half chance. Second half he made the goal, his team mates all patted him on the back and started to play the ball through to him after that and I thought he’d eventually get a goal from one if they keep it up. Then he got taken off.The Red Robin said:how did Kanu look?
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Kanu can actually move to press defenders. His physicality is far more valuable in a pressing system than Stockley'saltrinchamaddick said:
Apart from the movement and cross for Leaburn's goal he looked a little lost and lightweight. On coming back to defend he was brushed off the ball far too easily, which led to good chances for them. He is a work in progress, but in this league he has to be physically stronger. I have high hopes for his future and his instinct around the box, but at the moment I would probably prefer Stockley's physicality.The Red Robin said:how did Kanu look?6 -
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First half awful, second half better, but as Charlton fans we shouldn't be lured into comparing our own performances, we need to look at what it takes to win promotion and we are a long way short of that.1
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The thing about changing a manager is the refrain is to give 'em more time, too early to judge, not got their own players in, not imposed their own style, badly hit by injuries and suspensions, and so on, and then another half season of crap slips through.
I don't know Holden personally, and suspect he is probably a good bloke, but today, which was heartbreakingly crap yet again, I didn't get any sense from the players that they were doing any more than treading water, and feeling sorry for themselves. And absolutely no sense that Holden has energised them in any way, and his in game management was predictable painting by numbers, timed badly.
Yes there are details here and there, the ref, Clare hitting the post, JRS missing an open goal (doesn't worry me at all if he returns to Opaque Hovel) were details yeah, but Peterborough United were edging the game in general and to call us average would be a compliment.
Dreadful dreary dross.
Getting sick of it.1 -
Kanu lays the ball off well. Think he may become a decent number 10.4
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KettsJohn said:Slightly more resilience I thought. Can't buy a win at present. Need to though otherwise a relegation fight is in store. Think Rak Saki is on his way back to palace and not too fussed about it. Leaburn will get better once he has regained full fitness. Transfers will be key but not to pushing for play offs sadly
Word is Saki is off to Millwall2 -
The Rak-Sakyi chance frustrated me even more, as that was the effort Kanu had been waiting all game for!!letthegoodtimesroll said:
First half he looked like any striker would when his team mates are not threading through passes to him that he can turn into a half chance. Second half he made the goal, his team mates all patted him on the back and started to play the ball through to him after that and I thought he’d eventually get a goal from one if they keep it up. Then he got taken off.The Red Robin said:how did Kanu look?9 -
Thought Kanu looked good second half and was surprised he was taken off before Leaburn who looked much more tired.
Saki and Kirk are very lightweight get rid, we need fighters.5 -
I’d much rather play Blackett Taylor than JRS now. At least he’s ours6
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Two poor teams in awful form. Peterborough were in charge for the first 45mins without ever really looking like they would score. Genuinely struggled to stay awake in the first half. It was turgid.
We improved in the second half, but still looked pretty shite imo. Yes we missed 2/3 gilt edged chances, but lets not ignore the fact that Peterborough hit the bar twice and Maynard-Brewer had to make a very good double save in the first half.
We look an accident waiting to happen at the back and the amount of times the centre backs give the ball away is criminal.
Fraser had a stinker today and looked absolutely knackered. Pleased Kanu got an assist as he looked completely lost in the first half. Leaburn took his goal well,but we need to be very careful with him. He is some way short of fully fit and expecting him to be the "senior" striker, leading the line week after week is likely to break him again.
I was pissed off with the Holden appointment and have taken an immediate dislike to him. No idea why, bit of an irrational one, but in my defence he has done absolutely nothing in any other managerial role to suggest he will be any good for us.
Unless we are looking at 2/3 starting defenders and 1/2 starting strikers coming in during the January window I fear we will continue to struggle.
We again showed our soft under belly and for the period after the Peterborough goal we looked all at sea and threatened to crumble again.
I am still firmly in the "we are going to get properly sucked into a relegation battle" camp. Just don't rate 75% of this squad.
Farcical that we once again find ourselves in a position where we need a complete overhaul of the 1st team squad.2 -
1st half was as dull as dishwater, 2nd half much better. Great bit of skill by Kanu to set up Leaburn, then Miles showed great skill in the box but the keeper saved and Claire did everything right...except score!
We looked more solid at the back, but we still can't defend corners!
Overall a point was a fair result (they hit the bar twice) but we need some bodies in ASAP, namely a striker (or 2), LB and potentially a replacement for JRS if he is going back to Palace.0
