I think, in terms of the released list, it's worth remembering that since 1st January we have shipped out MacGillivray, JFC, Clayden and Stockley. Kirk, Lavelle and DJ probably have no future here. The jury is out on McGrandles future.
We haven't signed anyone on a contract for next season.
Bonne will obviously be released, Hector might not sign.
We have got plenty of room to bring in the players we need.
I would rather signed 7 or 8 and get it right than sign 10 or 12 and have the usual mix of injury prone, legs gone or plain shit that we have had in recent seasons.
Personally think both are fine as squad players. If they are being signed to start then we are in trouble again.
It would be nice if we had people fighting for first team places. That would drive performances - rather than have one first team player and a dreary second string 'squad player.'
Personally think both are fine as squad players. If they are being signed to start then we are in trouble again.
It would be nice if we had people fighting for first team places. That would drive performances - rather than have one first team player and a dreary second string 'squad player.'
We don’t have the budget for that. Inniss and Morgan are both relatively cheap, definitely cheaper than signing new players. They’ve played key roles in a side that has finished 10th so they are probably good enough to be squad players for a team aiming higher
Personally think both are fine as squad players. If they are being signed to start then we are in trouble again.
It would be nice if we had people fighting for first team places. That would drive performances - rather than have one first team player and a dreary second string 'squad player.'
We don’t have the budget for that. Inniss and Morgan are both relatively cheap, definitely cheaper than signing new players. They’ve played key roles in a side that has finished 10th so they are probably good enough to be squad players for a team aiming higher
Agreed, we are never going to have a two promotion quality 11's. If our depth is average league one players then that is fine as long as our starting 11 are promotion quality and not full of crocks.
Personally think both are fine as squad players. If they are being signed to start then we are in trouble again.
If Morgan does stay then thats a lot of CM's already, the hope would be with McGrandles turning the midfield into top 6 potential.
meh
Would assume Payne and/or McGrandles will be sold if we are keeping Morgan. Hopefully clearing the way for a new first choice
Cant see either being easy to shift, McGrandles has 2 years on assumedly good money as we apparently beat off Championship interest to get him, also didnt the Cambridge manager pretty much say hes out of their price range, in a round a bout way, cant be many to offer the fee and assumed wage for him.
Personally think both are fine as squad players. If they are being signed to start then we are in trouble again.
It would be nice if we had people fighting for first team places. That would drive performances - rather than have one first team player and a dreary second string 'squad player.'
Bowyer didn't have that, Powell didn't have that. We are in league 1, not the champions league.
It would be nice. We need first team players of the calibre of Cullen, Stephens, Yann, Taylor, Aribo etc We currently don't have 1, expecting 22 isn't really realistic is it?
Personally think both are fine as squad players. If they are being signed to start then we are in trouble again.
It would be nice if we had people fighting for first team places. That would drive performances - rather than have one first team player and a dreary second string 'squad player.'
We don’t have the budget for that. Inniss and Morgan are both relatively cheap, definitely cheaper than signing new players. They’ve played key roles in a side that has finished 10th so they are probably good enough to be squad players for a team aiming higher
if only we knew if that would be the case, I'm worried they would be mainstays again. IF we could sign other players first then we'd be in a better position to know if they were to be squad players but we won't so until we see the full squad make up come September then I'm going to be concerned. Other clubs will know they are both out of contract, would be interesting to know what other offers they received, if any. I'd wager none would be from a club that finished higher than us in league one. Says it all.
Personally think both are fine as squad players. If they are being signed to start then we are in trouble again.
If Morgan does stay then thats a lot of CM's already, the hope would be with McGrandles turning the midfield into top 6 potential.
meh
Would assume Payne and/or McGrandles will be sold if we are keeping Morgan. Hopefully clearing the way for a new first choice
Cant see either being easy to shift, McGrandles has 2 years on assumedly good money as we apparently beat off Championship interest to get him, also didnt the Cambridge manager pretty much say hes out of their price range, in a round a bout way, cant be many to offer the fee and assumed wage for him.
He’s just had a good loan but yeah I think our real challenge this window is offloading the likes of McGrandles, Payne, Lavelle, Jaiyesimi, Kirk who were all ‘big’ signings so are probably on decent money.
How big our budget will be is probably depends on how much of that we can get rid off without paying too much of their wages ourselves
Personally think both are fine as squad players. If they are being signed to start then we are in trouble again.
It would be nice if we had people fighting for first team places. That would drive performances - rather than have one first team player and a dreary second string 'squad player.'
There has to be a balance. You need those star players who turn you into a genuine promotion team. Otherwise you risk ending up with a squad of squad players.
Wiggins covered by Evina and Yann covered by Hayes was better than two average players battling in each position for example.
In some recent seasons we’ve had this problem, we never knew our best XI. It results in too much rotation trying to find the right formula.
That's always the point though, if we make a about 7 or 8 very good signings we'll look decent.
We never do.
Sure but I guess my point was more that (subject to sales of course) we go into next season with some outstanding youth team kids in the squad, many of whom will have had a year in and around the first team. It is a fantastic base to start and I hope whomever is our owner makes the most of it. Go up and maybe the club could grow with them.
Can I be the first to say, you don't win anything with Charlton.
Personally think both are fine as squad players. If they are being signed to start then we are in trouble again.
If Morgan does stay then thats a lot of CM's already, the hope would be with McGrandles turning the midfield into top 6 potential.
meh
Would assume Payne and/or McGrandles will be sold if we are keeping Morgan. Hopefully clearing the way for a new first choice
Cant see either being easy to shift, McGrandles has 2 years on assumedly good money as we apparently beat off Championship interest to get him, also didnt the Cambridge manager pretty much say hes out of their price range, in a round a bout way, cant be many to offer the fee and assumed wage for him.
He’s just had a good loan but yeah I think our real challenge this window is offloading the likes of McGrandles, Payne, Lavelle, Jaiyesimi, Kirk who were all ‘big’ signings so are probably on decent money.
How big our budget will be is probably depends on how much of that we can get rid off without paying too much of their wages ourselves
Lavelle, DJ and Kirk. Seasons loan out would be the best we could get. The level of club that woul dbe targeting them isnt going to pay out a fee when 1. They´ll all know we're desperate to get shot 2. DJ and Lavelle will be in the last year of their contracts anyway.
quality recruitment right there.
Shake Morgans hand, say thanks for being one of our own and Leuth almost had your poster on his wall next to the saucy Inniss one, but Connor Mcgrandles is the better option, either first choice or back up.
Personally think both are fine as squad players. If they are being signed to start then we are in trouble again.
If Morgan does stay then thats a lot of CM's already, the hope would be with McGrandles turning the midfield into top 6 potential.
meh
Would assume Payne and/or McGrandles will be sold if we are keeping Morgan. Hopefully clearing the way for a new first choice
Cant see either being easy to shift, McGrandles has 2 years on assumedly good money as we apparently beat off Championship interest to get him, also didnt the Cambridge manager pretty much say hes out of their price range, in a round a bout way, cant be many to offer the fee and assumed wage for him.
He’s just had a good loan but yeah I think our real challenge this window is offloading the likes of McGrandles, Payne, Lavelle, Jaiyesimi, Kirk who were all ‘big’ signings so are probably on decent money.
How big our budget will be is probably depends on how much of that we can get rid off without paying too much of their wages ourselves
Lavelle, DJ and Kirk. Seasons loan out would be the best we could get. The level of club that woul dbe targeting them isnt going to pay out a fee when 1. They´ll all know we're desperate to get shot 2. DJ and Lavelle will be in the last year of their contracts anyway.
quality recruitment right there.
Shake Morgans hand, say thanks for being one of our own Leuth almost had your poster on his wall, but Connor Mcgrandles is the better option, either first choice or back up.
Is McGrandles the better option when he’s probably on double the wage? And he’s 4 years older than Morgan.
I want a new first choice so I’d much rather keep the cheaper and younger Morgan as the squad player and move on McGrandles and use that money on the new first choice
Personally think both are fine as squad players. If they are being signed to start then we are in trouble again.
It would be nice if we had people fighting for first team places. That would drive performances - rather than have one first team player and a dreary second string 'squad player.'
Bowyer didn't have that, Powell didn't have that. We are in league 1, not the champions league.
It would be nice. We need first team players of the calibre of Cullen, Stephens, Yann, Taylor, Aribo etc We currently don't have 1, expecting 22 isn't really realistic is it?
Exactly. We don't have one, and we're not going to go into the new season suddenly with five Championship-quality players either (and Bowyer had ten).
It's not even about budget. I'm not saying we need 22x Conor Chaplin's or 22x Barry Bannans. I'm saying anyone we sign or keep on should improve us, and shouldn't just be making up the numbers as a 'squad player'.
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We haven't signed anyone on a contract for next season.
Bonne will obviously be released, Hector might not sign.
We have got plenty of room to bring in the players we need.
I would rather signed 7 or 8 and get it right than sign 10 or 12 and have the usual mix of injury prone, legs gone or plain shit that we have had in recent seasons.
If Morgan does stay then thats a lot of CM's already, the hope would be with McGrandles turning the midfield into top 6 potential.
meh
Agreed, we are never going to have a two promotion quality 11's. If our depth is average league one players then that is fine as long as our starting 11 are promotion quality and not full of crocks.
Cant see either being easy to shift, McGrandles has 2 years on assumedly good money as we apparently beat off Championship interest to get him, also didnt the Cambridge manager pretty much say hes out of their price range, in a round a bout way, cant be many to offer the fee and assumed wage for him.
It would be nice. We need first team players of the calibre of Cullen, Stephens, Yann, Taylor, Aribo etc We currently don't have 1, expecting 22 isn't really realistic is it?
Wiggins covered by Evina and Yann covered by Hayes was better than two average players battling in each position for example.
In some recent seasons we’ve had this problem, we never knew our best XI. It results in too much rotation trying to find the right formula.
And as for Morgan, to quote myself 'fuck it, he's one of our own' - the white whale must be pursued
Lavelle, DJ and Kirk. Seasons loan out would be the best we could get. The level of club that woul dbe targeting them isnt going to pay out a fee when 1. They´ll all know we're desperate to get shot 2. DJ and Lavelle will be in the last year of their contracts anyway.
quality recruitment right there.
Shake Morgans hand, say thanks for being one of our own and Leuth almost had your poster on his wall next to the saucy Inniss one, but Connor Mcgrandles is the better option, either first choice or back up.
It's not even about budget. I'm not saying we need 22x Conor Chaplin's or 22x Barry Bannans. I'm saying anyone we sign or keep on should improve us, and shouldn't just be making up the numbers as a 'squad player'.
Heaven knows we need improving.
He had that one purple patch for half a season and that is about it.