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  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,537
    edited July 2023
    Callumcafc said:
    Camara on Instagram… anyone recognise the tree line out the back window? 😅


    Yes, is at Reading’s training ground. Seriously though, it’s good of him to indicate how many games he will play before getting injured.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,184
    Callumcafc said:
    Camara on Instagram… anyone recognise the tree line out the back window? 😅


    Yes
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,219
    I feel old, I’m old enough to remember when this was swearing:


  • Budington
    Budington Posts: 180
    God, how many times do people to quote reply the same image?
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,021
    BR7_addick said:
    I feel old, I’m old enough to remember when this was swearing:


    But was this swearing?:


  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,219
    North Lower Neil said:
    BR7_addick said:
    I feel old, I’m old enough to remember when this was swearing:


    But was this swearing?:


    I feel even older now cos I didn’t know how to rotate the image cheers mate.  
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,070
    Been out of the loop a bit so can someone tell me where that lad Lloyd Jones has gone or is already crocked?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,134
    peterreeves said:
    Been out of the loop a bit so can someone tell me where that lad Lloyd Jones has gone or is already crocked?

    Had a post season operation so is a couple of weeks behind everyone else , might get some minutes tomorrow I would guess. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,985
    North Lower Neil said:
    BR7_addick said:
    I feel old, I’m old enough to remember when this was swearing:

    But was this swearing?:






    1-0. Best of 3?
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,068
    Do not wait for any news on the OS, when May was signed we were told by Cawley and others long before it was made official

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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,402
    edited July 2023
    shirty5 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    shirty5 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    On smith, we had everything agreed, but it was a straight shoot out with Reading, he chose them. We win some and you lose some. In fact, he has gone to them for less money
    Lyle Taylor joined us for less money than what he was offered by Sunderland back in 2018
    Correct, sometimes depends on where the players want to live. The odd £1000 here won’t make a difference if someone wants to live in a certain location 
    Some lovely places outside of Reading to live as well 

    Didcot, Yateley, Winnersh, Burghfield 
    I can recommend the army base in Didcot  :-(
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,034
    peterreeves said:
    Been out of the loop a bit so can someone tell me where that lad Lloyd Jones has gone or is already crocked?
    IIRC Awaiting an operation (or possibly had it by now), did not go to Spain but expected to be part of preseason and fit for the actual season start.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,397
    thenewbie said:
    peterreeves said:
    Been out of the loop a bit so can someone tell me where that lad Lloyd Jones has gone or is already crocked?
    IIRC Awaiting an operation (or possibly had it by now), did not go to Spain but expected to be part of preseason and fit for the actual season start.
    I thought I saw him in the Spain clips, just didn’t play in the game 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,901
    Yeah Jones was in Spain and took part in training
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,242
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Manic_mania said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Manic_mania said:
    is there any reason that lad who got 40 odd goals in the u21s couldn't step up to the squad this season? 

    Not saying as a regular or anything - if Leaburn and JRS can do it as a couple of teenagers in their first season then why not?
    Because not all people age in the same way.  Compare Rooney and Kane, by any metric, from 17 to 22.

    Bowyer was a first team star for us at 18.  Parker wasn't. 
    can you elaborate a bit on this? Not saying you are wrong, but are you basing this assessment on size? maturity? mindset? the "X Factor"? I don't know anything about youth football, or what means someone can "make it" 

    If we were still Prem and a lad like Casey came around scoring for fun in u21 competition - wouldn't we be looking for a league 1 or 2 club to loan him out to this season? 

    I dunno... i'm just asking the question.
    It's an impossible question to answer because there are so many variables.

    Rooney was a "man" at 17, probably in the best 5 players in the world at 20.  Kane couldn't get in the Leicester team at 20.  

    Troy Parrot, who could be an example for the second paragraph didn't really set the world alight when Spurs loaned him out to league 1 clubs.  He might still come good though.

    Cesc Fàbregas was a first team regular at Arsenal when he was 17, he didn't have the obvious physical advantage Rooney had.

    Bowyer and Shevley were at about 80% of the player they would become when they were 18 or 19, Parker was about 60%.  

    There is a good interview with Nick Powell going round at the moment.  At 17-18 he had the world at his feet, at 30 he has just signed for Stockport.

    There is Adrian Doherty

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/nov/15/adrian-doherty-manchester-united-class-of-92

    It's not an exact science, Bojan, is another one. Actually a lot of these played for Stoke so it's probably @bobmunro fault!

    In short, if a player has done well in u18/u21 football there is no guarantee that they will "make it" and because some players are ready at 17/18 doesn't mean everyone will be.  Unless your playing at 3 or 4 levels below your "natural" level most players aren't ready as teenagers.  The ones that are are special.

    Agree it's not an exact science.
    Ask different pro coaches about when are youngsters ready for the first team and you get different answers. 
    I Saw Paul Walsh score a hat trick against Chelsea 44 years ago at Sparrows lane in a youth match,when he was small but so confident.
    He was 16 I believe. Paul was fast tracked into the team. 

    I'm not giving up on Kanu yet to make his mark in League 1 this season but best if he makes steady progress rather that  Mason Burstow progress when they are sold in a blink of the eye.

    Miles Leaburn's injury may complicate issues but we build around Alfie May and see he is used in and around the box.

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,901
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,034
    NabySarr said:
    thenewbie said:
    peterreeves said:
    Been out of the loop a bit so can someone tell me where that lad Lloyd Jones has gone or is already crocked?
    IIRC Awaiting an operation (or possibly had it by now), did not go to Spain but expected to be part of preseason and fit for the actual season start.
    I thought I saw him in the Spain clips, just didn’t play in the game 
    Ah that's my mistake then. But certainly he's not crocked, whatever is going on is something known prior to his signing not an injury he's picked up since.
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,070
    Thanks all for the update on Private Jones....thought I'd lost the plot which at my age is not new.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,901
    edited July 2023
    Not a bad basis of a team… this doesn’t include lads like Kanu, Campbell, Chin or Anderson either.

    Looking at the below, I think we could do with one more centre back, two wing backs and a striker. Kirk and Jaiyesimi are the square pegs that will need to be shifted if they want to play football.



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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,261
    thai malaysia addick said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    MintoHumbugs said:
    Mentioned it before but I  think Max Watters from Cardiff would be a decent punt for a loan signing. Likely to be down the pecking order again for Cardiff so a loan move out again on the cards.
    Going to Barnsley on a perm I think.
    Funny place to get your hair permed.

    Less expensive to get your barnet done.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,261
    shirty5 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    shirty5 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    On smith, we had everything agreed, but it was a straight shoot out with Reading, he chose them. We win some and you lose some. In fact, he has gone to them for less money
    Lyle Taylor joined us for less money than what he was offered by Sunderland back in 2018
    Correct, sometimes depends on where the players want to live. The odd £1000 here won’t make a difference if someone wants to live in a certain location 
    Some lovely places outside of Reading to live as well 

    Didcot, Yateley, Winnersh, Burghfield 




    not forgetting Swindon.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,418
    Brownie12 said:
    Got to hand it to Camara, he has already posted a picture of himself in 2 weeks time.


    Bet A&Eneke's pissed off, stealing his thunder, sorry bed?
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,070
    Brownie12 said:
    Got to hand it to Camara, he has already posted a picture of himself in 2 weeks time.


    Genius, best laugh of the day-Thanks
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,537
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shirty5 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    shirty5 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    On smith, we had everything agreed, but it was a straight shoot out with Reading, he chose them. We win some and you lose some. In fact, he has gone to them for less money
    Lyle Taylor joined us for less money than what he was offered by Sunderland back in 2018
    Correct, sometimes depends on where the players want to live. The odd £1000 here won’t make a difference if someone wants to live in a certain location 
    Some lovely places outside of Reading to live as well 

    Didcot, Yateley, Winnersh, Burghfield 




    not forgetting Swindon.
    Which is very easily done 
  • altrinchamaddick
    altrinchamaddick Posts: 948
    Still need another box to box midfielder. Games are won and lost in midfield.
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,316
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    I have to say, May & Camara as first signings this summer are very decent.

    Starting to feel cautiously optimistic!! 
    Have you forgotten the other 2 we have already signed?
    I'll be honest.....yes, completely!!!

    Comment now edited
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,669
    altrinchamaddick said:
    Still need another box to box midfielder. Games are won and lost in midfield.
    Need someone who can orchestrate things. Fraser is the closest we have but I’m still not convinced he’s the metronome we need. Perhaps with Dobson and Camara he’ll become that player. Very difficult to dominate games without a really good midfield.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,068
    Ipswich have said Camara will join us on loan when takeover completed 

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