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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446
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TeeC said:Dabo to start for the U21 this afternoon according to Cawley. Available on charlton tv11
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Swisdom said:I think there will be a flurry of activity as we near the closing of the window. Premier League teams will be frantic trying to secure homes for some of their players and I'm sure we'll be in the mix.
I really do think some of the pant pissing i've seen for the last few days is hugely premature. Talk of Holden not being the right man, the new owners being potless etc. all very very premature but not unexpected given our recent experiences with ownership.
It's been a crap couple of weeks. Silly defeats and conceding basic goals or committing silly errors but that's coincided with a bad run of injuries. The perfect storm you could say. We were unlucky against The Posh, we should never have lost to Port Vale or Bristol - but those fine margins can have a massive effect on morale as it clearly has amongst the fans. Such fine margins but really no need to press the panic button just yet - remember it's taken 10-12 years to bring this club to it's knees so getting it back upright is not a five minute job3 -
I think we need 1 striker and a couple of CB's we are soft in the middle of our defence.. Not sure what has happened to Hector, looks uninterested this year.
For me, 1 striker, 1 RB, 2 CB, 1 AM and Winger that happy to play either day.. I think Kanu is stepping up, with Leaburn due to be fit soon.14 -
SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:charltonbob said:Just in case anybody didn't see it, Elfsborg posted a link to a Sunderland forum where they are discussing our takeover, If you haven't read it take a look, it makes interesting reading https://www.not606.com/threads/methven-buys-charlton.407251/
Just to whet your appetite this is what one poster thinks about our billionaires registered in Cayman Islands. The Cayman Islands billionaire sounds exactly like the role Juan Sartori played for Methven and his mate Donald, i.e. showing proof of funds to the EFL and then not putting any of it into the club.
Now the end result might be that it's an absolute disaster or it might be that Methven and co make a nice few quid with very little risk to themselves. Which means it has been a success, for us as well as him.
They/he categorically can't play the same play book here as he did at Sunderland because the circumstances are totally different.
There are things that happened at Sunderland that were a direct result of back to back relegations BEFORE Methven got involved. There are things that happened at Sunderland that were a direct result of poor management whilst he was there.
That doesn't change the fact that the only similarities between us now and Sunderland when he got involved are that we were both in league 1.
There isn't any fat to trim off, there aren't a bunch of 17 year olds that signed for a premier league club at 15 but won't commit to league 1 club, there isn't any parachute money, there isn't a stadium to secure debt against.
I don't trust Methven as far as I could throw him and am not happy with him by any measure but I do know that the narrative of the Sunderland fans isn't as black and white as some people take it on face value.
I know exactly what happened at Sunderland.
Like I have said, twice, the end result maybe the same, it might be worse, it might be better but he 100% can not play the same play book because the circumstances are entirely different. Or do you know of some secret windfall we are due or that they have somehow secured the assets without us knowing?
Of course he is in it to make money but he can't do that without us being, in some way, successful. Can he?
"Of course he is in it to make money but he can't do that without us being, in some way, successful. Can he?"
Please explain how he can flip it if we aren't successful? As @ShootersHillGuru said he can't flip it, therefore make any money, if we aren't promoted. If he does that who cares?4 -
DubaiCAFC said:I think we need 1 striker and a couple of CB's we are soft in the middle of our defence.. Not sure what has happened to Hector, looks uninterested this year.
For me, 1 striker, 1 RB, 2 CB, 1 AM and Winger that happy to play either day.. I think Kanu is stepping up, with Leaburn due to be fit soon.0 -
Think we need better cover at left back than Chin and Thomas if we are playing wing backs - CBT/Campbell are wingers not wing backs.2
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Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:charltonbob said:Just in case anybody didn't see it, Elfsborg posted a link to a Sunderland forum where they are discussing our takeover, If you haven't read it take a look, it makes interesting reading https://www.not606.com/threads/methven-buys-charlton.407251/
Just to whet your appetite this is what one poster thinks about our billionaires registered in Cayman Islands. The Cayman Islands billionaire sounds exactly like the role Juan Sartori played for Methven and his mate Donald, i.e. showing proof of funds to the EFL and then not putting any of it into the club.
Now the end result might be that it's an absolute disaster or it might be that Methven and co make a nice few quid with very little risk to themselves. Which means it has been a success, for us as well as him.
They/he categorically can't play the same play book here as he did at Sunderland because the circumstances are totally different.
There are things that happened at Sunderland that were a direct result of back to back relegations BEFORE Methven got involved. There are things that happened at Sunderland that were a direct result of poor management whilst he was there.
That doesn't change the fact that the only similarities between us now and Sunderland when he got involved are that we were both in league 1.
There isn't any fat to trim off, there aren't a bunch of 17 year olds that signed for a premier league club at 15 but won't commit to league 1 club, there isn't any parachute money, there isn't a stadium to secure debt against.
I don't trust Methven as far as I could throw him and am not happy with him by any measure but I do know that the narrative of the Sunderland fans isn't as black and white as some people take it on face value.
I know exactly what happened at Sunderland.
Like I have said, twice, the end result maybe the same, it might be worse, it might be better but he 100% can not play the same play book because the circumstances are entirely different. Or do you know of some secret windfall we are due or that they have somehow secured the assets without us knowing?
Of course he is in it to make money but he can't do that without us being, in some way, successful. Can he?
"Of course he is in it to make money but he can't do that without us being, in some way, successful. Can he?"
Please explain how he can flip it if we aren't successful? As @ShootersHillGuru said he can't flip it, therefore make any money, if we aren't promoted. If he does that who cares?3 -
Chunes said:killerandflash said:After the window closes
"We tried very hard to get deals across the line. Indeed we had a couple lined up today, but unfortunately they fell through at the last moment, not due to problems at our end. It's frustrating, but there are good free agents out there which we will be looking at, and the return of Fraser and Leaburn will be like two new signings."
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We needed 10 out field players.
We still need 2 wing backs, a center back and 2 strikers. 3 of them need to be significantly better than what we have already got.9 -
SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:charltonbob said:Just in case anybody didn't see it, Elfsborg posted a link to a Sunderland forum where they are discussing our takeover, If you haven't read it take a look, it makes interesting reading https://www.not606.com/threads/methven-buys-charlton.407251/
Just to whet your appetite this is what one poster thinks about our billionaires registered in Cayman Islands. The Cayman Islands billionaire sounds exactly like the role Juan Sartori played for Methven and his mate Donald, i.e. showing proof of funds to the EFL and then not putting any of it into the club.
Now the end result might be that it's an absolute disaster or it might be that Methven and co make a nice few quid with very little risk to themselves. Which means it has been a success, for us as well as him.
They/he categorically can't play the same play book here as he did at Sunderland because the circumstances are totally different.
There are things that happened at Sunderland that were a direct result of back to back relegations BEFORE Methven got involved. There are things that happened at Sunderland that were a direct result of poor management whilst he was there.
That doesn't change the fact that the only similarities between us now and Sunderland when he got involved are that we were both in league 1.
There isn't any fat to trim off, there aren't a bunch of 17 year olds that signed for a premier league club at 15 but won't commit to league 1 club, there isn't any parachute money, there isn't a stadium to secure debt against.
I don't trust Methven as far as I could throw him and am not happy with him by any measure but I do know that the narrative of the Sunderland fans isn't as black and white as some people take it on face value.
I know exactly what happened at Sunderland.
Like I have said, twice, the end result maybe the same, it might be worse, it might be better but he 100% can not play the same play book because the circumstances are entirely different. Or do you know of some secret windfall we are due or that they have somehow secured the assets without us knowing?
Of course he is in it to make money but he can't do that without us being, in some way, successful. Can he?
"Of course he is in it to make money but he can't do that without us being, in some way, successful. Can he?"
Please explain how he can flip it if we aren't successful? As @ShootersHillGuru said he can't flip it, therefore make any money, if we aren't promoted. If he does that who cares?7 -
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Would expect us to get Dabo in and an okish striker before doing similar to what we did in Jan and taking a punt on some loans towards the end of the window in other positions we need0
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Todds_right_hook said:3
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say we sign Cosgrove (loan), dabo and sess, then 3 young prem loans, that should be enough to see us competitive on the basis that the loans are gallagher, cullen, Maatsen type loans and not the Chelsea and spurs caliber of two seasons ago.3
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Todds_right_hook said:say we sign Cosgrove (loan), dabo and sess, then 3 young prem loans, that should be enough to see us competitive on the basis that the loans are gallagher, cullen, Maatsen type loans and not the Chelsea and spurs caliber of two seasons ago.0
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ShootersHillGuru said:Todds_right_hook said:say we sign Cosgrove (loan), dabo and sess, then 3 young prem loans, that should be enough to see us competitive on the basis that the loans are gallagher, cullen, Maatsen type loans and not the Chelsea and spurs caliber of two seasons ago.ShootersHillGuru said:Todds_right_hook said:say we sign Cosgrove (loan), dabo and sess, then 3 young prem loans, that should be enough to see us competitive on the basis that the loans are gallagher, cullen, Maatsen type loans and not the Chelsea and spurs caliber of two seasons ago.
We'll have to wait and see.
Injured players coming back and newly signed players fully fit I think we'll do ok.2 -
Cafc43v3r said:We needed 10 out field players.
We still need 2 wing backs, a center back and 2 strikers. 3 of them need to be significantly better than what we have already got.0 -
ShootersHillGuru said:Todds_right_hook said:0
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Todds_right_hook said:say we sign Cosgrove (loan), dabo and sess, then 3 young prem loans, that should be enough to see us competitive on the basis that the loans are gallagher, cullen, Maatsen type loans and not the Chelsea and spurs caliber of two seasons ago.Curbs says that its best to try and get loans from London clubs because them they don’t have any personal upheaval. We are after all talking about 18 year old kids. But still I hope for the best. Those three players I mentioned have given me more football pleasure than any others in a Charlton shirt in that time. I’m still sadly playing in my head JRS body- swerve that took out two defenders before he shot home through the gap they left.4
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Cafc43v3r said:We needed 10 out field players.
We still need 2 wing backs, a center back and 2 strikers. 3 of them need to be significantly better than what we have already got.
WB - Sess (free)
WB - Dabo (free)
CB - Mingi (free) - also covers CM
AM - Moxon (£650k)
ST - Ladapo (£650k)
Still time for Andy Scott to pull it out of the bag. He needs to after the incomings we saw in Jan.3 -
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DubaiCAFC said:I think we need 1 striker and a couple of CB's we are soft in the middle of our defence.. Not sure what has happened to Hector, looks uninterested this year.
For me, 1 striker, 1 RB, 2 CB, 1 AM and Winger that happy to play either day.. I think Kanu is stepping up, with Leaburn due to be fit soon.1 -
Scoham said:DubaiCAFC said:I think we need 1 striker and a couple of CB's we are soft in the middle of our defence.. Not sure what has happened to Hector, looks uninterested this year.
For me, 1 striker, 1 RB, 2 CB, 1 AM and Winger that happy to play either day.. I think Kanu is stepping up, with Leaburn due to be fit soon.1 -
Oh Eddie Youds... said:Cafc43v3r said:We needed 10 out field players.
We still need 2 wing backs, a center back and 2 strikers. 3 of them need to be significantly better than what we have already got.
WB - Sess (free)
WB - Dabo (free)
CB - Mingi (free) - also covers CM
AM - Moxon (£650k)
ST - Ladapo (£650k)
Still time for Andy Scott to pull it out of the bag. He needs to after the incomings we saw in Jan.
Would also weaken a relegation rival 😉6 -
Scoham said:DubaiCAFC said:I think we need 1 striker and a couple of CB's we are soft in the middle of our defence.. Not sure what has happened to Hector, looks uninterested this year.
For me, 1 striker, 1 RB, 2 CB, 1 AM and Winger that happy to play either day.. I think Kanu is stepping up, with Leaburn due to be fit soon.0 -
SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:charltonbob said:Just in case anybody didn't see it, Elfsborg posted a link to a Sunderland forum where they are discussing our takeover, If you haven't read it take a look, it makes interesting reading https://www.not606.com/threads/methven-buys-charlton.407251/
Just to whet your appetite this is what one poster thinks about our billionaires registered in Cayman Islands. The Cayman Islands billionaire sounds exactly like the role Juan Sartori played for Methven and his mate Donald, i.e. showing proof of funds to the EFL and then not putting any of it into the club.
Now the end result might be that it's an absolute disaster or it might be that Methven and co make a nice few quid with very little risk to themselves. Which means it has been a success, for us as well as him.
They/he categorically can't play the same play book here as he did at Sunderland because the circumstances are totally different.
There are things that happened at Sunderland that were a direct result of back to back relegations BEFORE Methven got involved. There are things that happened at Sunderland that were a direct result of poor management whilst he was there.
That doesn't change the fact that the only similarities between us now and Sunderland when he got involved are that we were both in league 1.
There isn't any fat to trim off, there aren't a bunch of 17 year olds that signed for a premier league club at 15 but won't commit to league 1 club, there isn't any parachute money, there isn't a stadium to secure debt against.
I don't trust Methven as far as I could throw him and am not happy with him by any measure but I do know that the narrative of the Sunderland fans isn't as black and white as some people take it on face value.
I know exactly what happened at Sunderland.
Like I have said, twice, the end result maybe the same, it might be worse, it might be better but he 100% can not play the same play book because the circumstances are entirely different. Or do you know of some secret windfall we are due or that they have somehow secured the assets without us knowing?
Of course he is in it to make money but he can't do that without us being, in some way, successful. Can he?
"Of course he is in it to make money but he can't do that without us being, in some way, successful. Can he?"
Please explain how he can flip it if we aren't successful? As @ShootersHillGuru said he can't flip it, therefore make any money, if we aren't promoted. If he does that who cares?5 -
Braziliance said:Oh Eddie Youds... said:Cafc43v3r said:We needed 10 out field players.
We still need 2 wing backs, a center back and 2 strikers. 3 of them need to be significantly better than what we have already got.
WB - Sess (free)
WB - Dabo (free)
CB - Mingi (free) - also covers CM
AM - Moxon (£650k)
ST - Ladapo (£650k)
Still time for Andy Scott to pull it out of the bag. He needs to after the incomings we saw in Jan.
Would also weaken a relegation rival 😉1 -
I've seen Cosgrove described as 'a centre back's wet dream' by Plymouth fans. So that's encouraging34
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sam3110 said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:SouthLincsAddick said:charltonbob said:Just in case anybody didn't see it, Elfsborg posted a link to a Sunderland forum where they are discussing our takeover, If you haven't read it take a look, it makes interesting reading https://www.not606.com/threads/methven-buys-charlton.407251/
Just to whet your appetite this is what one poster thinks about our billionaires registered in Cayman Islands. The Cayman Islands billionaire sounds exactly like the role Juan Sartori played for Methven and his mate Donald, i.e. showing proof of funds to the EFL and then not putting any of it into the club.
Now the end result might be that it's an absolute disaster or it might be that Methven and co make a nice few quid with very little risk to themselves. Which means it has been a success, for us as well as him.
They/he categorically can't play the same play book here as he did at Sunderland because the circumstances are totally different.
There are things that happened at Sunderland that were a direct result of back to back relegations BEFORE Methven got involved. There are things that happened at Sunderland that were a direct result of poor management whilst he was there.
That doesn't change the fact that the only similarities between us now and Sunderland when he got involved are that we were both in league 1.
There isn't any fat to trim off, there aren't a bunch of 17 year olds that signed for a premier league club at 15 but won't commit to league 1 club, there isn't any parachute money, there isn't a stadium to secure debt against.
I don't trust Methven as far as I could throw him and am not happy with him by any measure but I do know that the narrative of the Sunderland fans isn't as black and white as some people take it on face value.
I know exactly what happened at Sunderland.
Like I have said, twice, the end result maybe the same, it might be worse, it might be better but he 100% can not play the same play book because the circumstances are entirely different. Or do you know of some secret windfall we are due or that they have somehow secured the assets without us knowing?
Of course he is in it to make money but he can't do that without us being, in some way, successful. Can he?
"Of course he is in it to make money but he can't do that without us being, in some way, successful. Can he?"
Please explain how he can flip it if we aren't successful? As @ShootersHillGuru said he can't flip it, therefore make any money, if we aren't promoted. If he does that who cares?2 -
Smithy said:I've seen Cosgrove described as 'a centre back's wet dream' by Plymouth fans. So that's encouraging
Different horses different courses all that. He can't be any worse than the other striking options we have which are 01 -
Braziliance said:Smithy said:I've seen Cosgrove described as 'a centre back's wet dream' by Plymouth fans. So that's encouraging
Different horses different courses all that. He can't be any worse than the other striking options we have which are 07