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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446
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We absolutely need another new face to join. As much as I am excited about Leaburn and May, and the prospect of Kanu, we’re very exposed in this area. Leaburn is only entering his second full season as a professional. All the signs are there that he could be decent at this level, maybe even higher, but to have the weight of expectation on him in the way he does in just his second season as a pro is a big ask.Scoham said:
I think it’s become clear they don’t want to sign a squad striker. The plan is May backed up by Kanu to play alongside Leaburn or the new striker. Aneke coming back would be a bonus and give us five strikers.Cafc43v3r said:
I agree to a degree that it's better to wait and get the players you want.lancashire lad said:there is only 1 more game before the window closes, you could say 2 as the Fleetwood match is on 2nd Sept, surely it is better to wait and get the best partner for May rather than rush in this week and buy a second rate one, also Leaburn can only be 2 or 3 weeks away from playing.
This is the same for other positions better to wait a week and get the best available, but of course if the SMT aren't bothering then that is far more serious.
But not in the case of a squad player striker. The minute Leaburn came off against Welling they needed to get an adult striker through the door quickly.
Even if it was someone like Wickham or Martin on a 6 month contract.
I get the fear of being lumbered with players you don't want but you don't have to give everyone multi year contracts. You could reassess in January.
You need a minimum of 4 strikers if your playing with two. Leaburn, Kanu and Campbell don't take up squad spaces, nor count towards FFP, so that sort of balances out that Aneke does.
Yes wait for the right people to pay fees and give longer contracts too but that doesn't mean you have to leave yourself short.
Would be happy to be wrong of course.Kanu similar. Two goals now and he’ll be buzzing, but by the law of averages, to get two youth players come through and perform
consistently so early on in their career is a big ask.
I appreciate whilst he’s still on the books people will mention Aneke, but for me, we should assume he’s not going to contribute. That way, we better manage risk and we must do everything we can to go out and get a decent forward to compete with May and Leaburn. Easier said than done of course, but I strongly believe it’s what’s needed to get us out of this league.
The counter argument would be Bowyer’s promotion season after Grant left, and filling the gap with Vetokele and Parker, but the team was much stronger then, Lyle was a talisman and we were able to leverage the Taylor/Grant partnership for half a season5 -
End of SeptemberShootersHillGuru said:
The cotton wool is off and he’s now training on eggshells.MintoHumbugs said:Any update on Chuks expected return if ever?0 -
and who owned the club then ?? They did not have final say on anything it all had to go through TS and the budgets he set …Siv_in_Norfolk said:
He does not. Don't take the bait. He will eventually stop.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you believe the shite you type?RonnieMoore said:
They did not oversee January window and all budgets were set by TS and had to be signed off by TS … new owners have had control for just two weekssupaclive said:
They have been involved since DECEMBER 2022!swordfish said:
It might be to be cautious until the the new management have a better understanding of what's needed to transform the Club into a successful one, but at the moment it looks more like the plan is to stick our most promising young prospects into the shop window, albeit because of the injury situation. Incomings desperately needed.BigDiddy said:
When we are 15th in the table?ElfsborgAddick said:Perhaps we should save our money for a big push in the January transfer window.
Is that our 'plan"?
Holden was their man
They oversaw the January window
I'm sure Dean kept them up to date for the 2 months they fell out with TS!
They should bloody well know very well what we need.
9 points lost already.
they were ready 4 weeks ago but it was the women’s team that held up the sale for another two weeks
https://www.charltonafc.com/video/player/0_66nqkuvp
You clearly don’t like facts1 -
Have we been overreacting in previous seasons? How have previous seasons gone...!Leuth said:
I feel like we're all overreacting about our defenders. Something we've never done before of courseJamesSeed said:
‘Commanding’. Le mot juste!hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Need to sign a commanding CB.Jones looks decent, Ness was, and may soon be decent again, Hector was once very decent, but may never be again.But non of them are currently commanding.
Last season we were the 6th top scorers in the league and yet nobody in the top 14 conceded more goals than us. Result? Midtable obscurity
We're in danger of repeating the same mistake
Definition of madness is..4 -
Really ! Our top six defence has shipped 9 goals in five games. Three of which were against a division two team and five against two teams not expected to be challenging. It’s not an overreaction at all. Collectively they have been crap.Leuth said:
I feel like we're all overreacting about our defenders. Something we've never done before of courseJamesSeed said:
‘Commanding’. Le mot juste!hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Need to sign a commanding CB.Jones looks decent, Ness was, and may soon be decent again, Hector was once very decent, but may never be again.But non of them are currently commanding.22 -
So if you had to pick one poster on here who you thought was Charlie Methven posting on rumours on here, who would it be?0
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Haha, this may well be us55 -
GolfieMendonca In Asdas said:So if you had to pick one poster on here who you thought was Charlie Methven posting on rumours on here, who would it be?8 -
I’m SpartacusMendonca In Asdas said:So if you had to pick one poster on here who you thought was Charlie Methven posting on rumours on here, who would it be?0 -
There have been a few errors, I just feel a few of them are being written off a bit quicklyShootersHillGuru said:
Really ! Our top six defence has shipped 9 goals in five games. Three of which were against a division two team and five against two teams not expected to be challenging. It’s not an overreaction at all. Collectively they have been crap.Leuth said:
I feel like we're all overreacting about our defenders. Something we've never done before of courseJamesSeed said:
‘Commanding’. Le mot juste!hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Need to sign a commanding CB.Jones looks decent, Ness was, and may soon be decent again, Hector was once very decent, but may never be again.But non of them are currently commanding.2 -
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Are you a real person or an experimental art collective? If it’s the latter, fair play.RonnieMoore said:
and who owned the club then ?? They did not have final say on anything it all had to go through TS and the budgets he set …Siv_in_Norfolk said:
He does not. Don't take the bait. He will eventually stop.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you believe the shite you type?RonnieMoore said:
They did not oversee January window and all budgets were set by TS and had to be signed off by TS … new owners have had control for just two weekssupaclive said:
They have been involved since DECEMBER 2022!swordfish said:
It might be to be cautious until the the new management have a better understanding of what's needed to transform the Club into a successful one, but at the moment it looks more like the plan is to stick our most promising young prospects into the shop window, albeit because of the injury situation. Incomings desperately needed.BigDiddy said:
When we are 15th in the table?ElfsborgAddick said:Perhaps we should save our money for a big push in the January transfer window.
Is that our 'plan"?
Holden was their man
They oversaw the January window
I'm sure Dean kept them up to date for the 2 months they fell out with TS!
They should bloody well know very well what we need.
9 points lost already.
they were ready 4 weeks ago but it was the women’s team that held up the sale for another two weeks
https://www.charltonafc.com/video/player/0_66nqkuvp
You clearly don’t like facts5 -
9 goals in five games is not "a few errors" for the kind of pedigree and quality we're supposed to have.Leuth said:
There have been a few errors, I just feel a few of them are being written off a bit quicklyShootersHillGuru said:
Really ! Our top six defence has shipped 9 goals in five games. Three of which were against a division two team and five against two teams not expected to be challenging. It’s not an overreaction at all. Collectively they have been crap.Leuth said:
I feel like we're all overreacting about our defenders. Something we've never done before of courseJamesSeed said:
‘Commanding’. Le mot juste!hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Need to sign a commanding CB.Jones looks decent, Ness was, and may soon be decent again, Hector was once very decent, but may never be again.But non of them are currently commanding.
If it were made up of chancers and U18s that's one thing but come on...0 -
Damn. My cover has been blown.ShootersHillGuru said:
GolfieMendonca In Asdas said:So if you had to pick one poster on here who you thought was Charlie Methven posting on rumours on here, who would it be?
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Worrying.Brownie12 said:
Of course he doesn’t. Just wants a reaction - which is very strange behaviour.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you believe the shite you type?RonnieMoore said:
They did not oversee January window and all budgets were set by TS and had to be signed off by TS … new owners have had control for just two weekssupaclive said:
They have been involved since DECEMBER 2022!swordfish said:
It might be to be cautious until the the new management have a better understanding of what's needed to transform the Club into a successful one, but at the moment it looks more like the plan is to stick our most promising young prospects into the shop window, albeit because of the injury situation. Incomings desperately needed.BigDiddy said:
When we are 15th in the table?ElfsborgAddick said:Perhaps we should save our money for a big push in the January transfer window.
Is that our 'plan"?
Holden was their man
They oversaw the January window
I'm sure Dean kept them up to date for the 2 months they fell out with TS!
They should bloody well know very well what we need.
9 points lost already.
they were ready 4 weeks ago but it was the women’s team that held up the sale for another two weeks
https://www.charltonafc.com/video/player/0_66nqkuvp0 -
AFC Wimbledon want in excess of £1.2m for Iraq striker Ali Al-Hamadi due to sizeable sell-on clause owed to his old club Wycombe.This is why a striker is the hardest position to buy for ridiculous price2
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Makes a change from your top.golfaddick said:
Damn. My cover has been blown.ShootersHillGuru said:
GolfieMendonca In Asdas said:So if you had to pick one poster on here who you thought was Charlie Methven posting on rumours on here, who would it be?5 -
Probably shouldn’t have left it this late then. No club wants to lose their best player at this stage of the summer with little time for them to replace them. So that means fees for buying the better league 1 and 2 players are over-inflated.RonnieMoore said:AFC Wimbledon want in excess of £1.2m for Iraq striker Ali Al-Hamadi due to sizeable sell-on clause owed to his old club Wycombe.This is why a striker is the hardest position to buy for ridiculous price
We will end up with PL loans and championship squad players dropping down, I can’t see the new owners paying that kind of money or they would have done it a month ago before we’d lost 3 league games due to being short4 -
Ronnie/Colin/Kenny Senior spotted in court with Ray Von.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you believe the shite you type?RonnieMoore said:
They did not oversee January window and all budgets were set by TS and had to be signed off by TS … new owners have had control for just two weekssupaclive said:
They have been involved since DECEMBER 2022!swordfish said:
It might be to be cautious until the the new management have a better understanding of what's needed to transform the Club into a successful one, but at the moment it looks more like the plan is to stick our most promising young prospects into the shop window, albeit because of the injury situation. Incomings desperately needed.BigDiddy said:
When we are 15th in the table?ElfsborgAddick said:Perhaps we should save our money for a big push in the January transfer window.
Is that our 'plan"?
Holden was their man
They oversaw the January window
I'm sure Dean kept them up to date for the 2 months they fell out with TS!
They should bloody well know very well what we need.
9 points lost already.
they were ready 4 weeks ago but it was the women’s team that held up the sale for another two weeks
https://www.charltonafc.com/video/player/0_66nqkuvp
Next, he'll be telling us about the time he broke Bonnie Langfords back.
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There has been a problem with our defence, not necessarily defenders since Bowyer lost the plot in Autum of 2020.thenewbie said:
9 goals in five games is not "a few errors" for the kind of pedigree and quality we're supposed to have.Leuth said:
There have been a few errors, I just feel a few of them are being written off a bit quicklyShootersHillGuru said:
Really ! Our top six defence has shipped 9 goals in five games. Three of which were against a division two team and five against two teams not expected to be challenging. It’s not an overreaction at all. Collectively they have been crap.Leuth said:
I feel like we're all overreacting about our defenders. Something we've never done before of courseJamesSeed said:
‘Commanding’. Le mot juste!hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Need to sign a commanding CB.Jones looks decent, Ness was, and may soon be decent again, Hector was once very decent, but may never be again.But non of them are currently commanding.
If it were made up of chancers and U18s that's one thing but come on...
5 managers and 10 center halves later its still going on they can't all be crap or clueless can they?
Charltonised has been used for stopping scoring or being injured but I would wager Hector has made more "serious" errors in the last 8 months than in the previous 8 years. You don't play, for that long, in the Championship or above if you keep doing that.2 -
Similar to what Exeter want for Nombe then. Maybe that’s a normal price in the market - it would be naive to buy a club and think you can sign quality young strikers in the lower leagues cheaper than anyone else. I hope it hasn’t come as a surprise to the new ownership.RonnieMoore said:AFC Wimbledon want in excess of £1.2m for Iraq striker Ali Al-Hamadi due to sizeable sell-on clause owed to his old club Wycombe.This is why a striker is the hardest position to buy for ridiculous price5 -
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Isn't that about what Peterborough bought JCH for as well?Scoham said:
Similar to what Exeter want for Nombe then. Maybe that’s a normal price in the market - it would be naive to buy a club and think you can sign quality young strikers in the lower leagues cheaper than anyone else. I hope it hasn’t come as a surprise to the new ownership.RonnieMoore said:AFC Wimbledon want in excess of £1.2m for Iraq striker Ali Al-Hamadi due to sizeable sell-on clause owed to his old club Wycombe.This is why a striker is the hardest position to buy for ridiculous price0 -
A summer pre season with a Tony Pulis/Big Sam type manager would eradicate most of the individual and team errors.Cafc43v3r said:
There has been a problem with our defence, not necessarily defenders since Bowyer lost the plot in Autum of 2020.thenewbie said:
9 goals in five games is not "a few errors" for the kind of pedigree and quality we're supposed to have.Leuth said:
There have been a few errors, I just feel a few of them are being written off a bit quicklyShootersHillGuru said:
Really ! Our top six defence has shipped 9 goals in five games. Three of which were against a division two team and five against two teams not expected to be challenging. It’s not an overreaction at all. Collectively they have been crap.Leuth said:
I feel like we're all overreacting about our defenders. Something we've never done before of courseJamesSeed said:
‘Commanding’. Le mot juste!hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Need to sign a commanding CB.Jones looks decent, Ness was, and may soon be decent again, Hector was once very decent, but may never be again.But non of them are currently commanding.
If it were made up of chancers and U18s that's one thing but come on...
5 managers and 10 center halves later its still going on they can't all be crap or clueless can they?
Charltonised has been used for stopping scoring or being injured but I would wager Hector has made more "serious" errors in the last 8 months than in the previous 8 years. You don't play, for that long, in the Championship or above if you keep doing that.
Genius attacking play can't be coached, but defensive solidity can be.9 -
Scoham said:
Similar to what Exeter want for Nombe then. Maybe that’s a normal price in the market - it would be naive to buy a club and think you can sign quality young strikers in the lower leagues cheaper than anyone else. I hope it hasn’t come as a surprise to the new ownership.RonnieMoore said:AFC Wimbledon want in excess of £1.2m for Iraq striker Ali Al-Hamadi due to sizeable sell-on clause owed to his old club Wycombe.This is why a striker is the hardest position to buy for ridiculous price
Exactly this - with not long to get a replacement in I'm not surprised AFCW are quoting that for a player that will be key to them and hard to replace.
I'd be surprised now if we get a striker on a permanent0 -
As a minimum I would guess yeah.Cafc43v3r said:
Isn't that about what Peterborough bought JCH for as well?Scoham said:
Similar to what Exeter want for Nombe then. Maybe that’s a normal price in the market - it would be naive to buy a club and think you can sign quality young strikers in the lower leagues cheaper than anyone else. I hope it hasn’t come as a surprise to the new ownership.RonnieMoore said:AFC Wimbledon want in excess of £1.2m for Iraq striker Ali Al-Hamadi due to sizeable sell-on clause owed to his old club Wycombe.This is why a striker is the hardest position to buy for ridiculous price0 -
Keep seeing the terms ‘ridiculous price’ for strikers we are looking at. The price is the price. Top young forwards create and hold value very well. The ownership can’t use that excuse if they are serious. Seen a number of fans say it but not sure it makes much sense.. market value and value to clubs increase a forwards price more than most other positions.RonnieMoore said:AFC Wimbledon want in excess of £1.2m for Iraq striker Ali Al-Hamadi due to sizeable sell-on clause owed to his old club Wycombe.This is why a striker is the hardest position to buy for ridiculous priceIt’s the same logic that means we’d be fuming for Miles to leave for anything less than £1.5m and even that I think would be a steal…
if you want the top young talent (especially a forward) you pay a premium…15 -
When Leaburn eventually goes I will be shocked if its for anything less than £3-4m.Sambcafc said:
Keep seeing the terms ‘ridiculous price’ for strikers we are looking at. The price is the price. Top young forwards create and hold value very well. The ownership can’t use that excuse if they are serious. Seen a number of fans say it but not sure it makes much sense.. market value and value to clubs increase a forwards price more than most other positions.RonnieMoore said:AFC Wimbledon want in excess of £1.2m for Iraq striker Ali Al-Hamadi due to sizeable sell-on clause owed to his old club Wycombe.This is why a striker is the hardest position to buy for ridiculous priceIt’s the same logic that means we’d be fuming for Miles to leave for anything less than £1.5m and even that I think would be a steal…
if you want the top young talent (especially a forward) you pay a premium…3 -
These sort of protests are fun. Even more fun than ours.Braziliance said:
Haha, this may well be us0 -
Ali Al-Hamadi was allowed to leave by Wycombe only in January. After scoring a few goals in L2, he's probably worth 200k now, max.
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Now that Kanu is scoring we have 4 strikers on our books.
Unless we are going to unload one of them I would be very surprised if we sign another one, unless it is a loan.
The priority is to sort out the defence-keeping goals out is the biggest problem to fix now.2 -
Holden has played for Big Sam you would think some of it would have rubbed off but I totally agree.killerandflash said:
A summer pre season with a Tony Pulis/Big Sam type manager would eradicate most of the individual and team errors.Cafc43v3r said:
There has been a problem with our defence, not necessarily defenders since Bowyer lost the plot in Autum of 2020.thenewbie said:
9 goals in five games is not "a few errors" for the kind of pedigree and quality we're supposed to have.Leuth said:
There have been a few errors, I just feel a few of them are being written off a bit quicklyShootersHillGuru said:
Really ! Our top six defence has shipped 9 goals in five games. Three of which were against a division two team and five against two teams not expected to be challenging. It’s not an overreaction at all. Collectively they have been crap.Leuth said:
I feel like we're all overreacting about our defenders. Something we've never done before of courseJamesSeed said:
‘Commanding’. Le mot juste!hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Need to sign a commanding CB.Jones looks decent, Ness was, and may soon be decent again, Hector was once very decent, but may never be again.But non of them are currently commanding.
If it were made up of chancers and U18s that's one thing but come on...
5 managers and 10 center halves later its still going on they can't all be crap or clueless can they?
Charltonised has been used for stopping scoring or being injured but I would wager Hector has made more "serious" errors in the last 8 months than in the previous 8 years. You don't play, for that long, in the Championship or above if you keep doing that.
Genius attacking play can't be coached, but defensive solidity can be.0
