This would surprise me. Feels like from all the comments from City that they're moving on from Ortega and Steffen and that Trafford is seen as the next big thing there.
Steffen is going but they've apparently offered Ortega a new deal.
In any case Ederson is only 29 so i doubt he's going anywhere yet, so it makes sense for City to sell Trafford, quite likely put a buy back clause in the deal and then see how he gets on. They did the same with Bazunu at Southampton.
I hadn't seen they were actually keeping Ortega around so that changes things! As you rightly say a similarly structured deal to the one they did with Southampton for Bazunu could be the way to go if they don't just go for a straightforward loan.
Early days but despite the takeover enthusiasm I can’t help feeling we’ll be doing the usual. Dither, sign people on the C list, a couple of loans, then a couple of injury-prone frees after the season has started, and won’t fill positions we need.
Early days but despite the takeover enthusiasm I can’t help feeling we’ll be doing the usual. Dither, sign people on the C list, a couple of loans, then a couple of injury-prone frees after the season has started, and won’t fill positons we need.
Or maybe the last few years has made me a cynic.
Don't disagree. And if you're as cynical as me you'll think the whole situation has been engineered that way.
Question you have to ask is will he be the next Sorba Thomas, or will he be another Stuart Fleetwood?
Not sure how far we were short of the asking price but bad call not to pay the price asked as Thomas has been Championship quality and we had first refusal from Boreham wood.
Apparently missed out on him to Wigan last summer, and then hardly played for them all season.
With their financial issues, he may be free to leave or for a small fee.
Scored double figures each time he’s played in League One. He’s a southerner too so that may help.
We need more goals across the team to replace what we have lost from Rak-Sakyi.
Think he’d be a good addition.
I think he’d be a great signing. But it probably depends on what Holden is planning tactically. He’d be great if we keep the 4-3-3 but does Scully fit a 3-5-2?
Apparently missed out on him to Wigan last summer, and then hardly played for them all season.
With their financial issues, he may be free to leave or for a small fee.
Scored double figures each time he’s played in League One. He’s a southerner too so that may help.
We need more goals across the team to replace what we have lost from Rak-Sakyi.
Think he’d be a good addition.
I think he’d be a great signing. But it probably depends on what Holden is planning tactically. He’d be great if we keep the 4-3-3 but does Scully fit a 3-5-2?
It’s good to have flexibility and adaptability and with CBT and Campbell, it’ll be a waste constantly playing 3-5-2. I think we could see a mixture of the two systems this coming season.
Anthony Scully plays left-wing, we already have players in that position, albeit one of them, Charlie Kirk is likely to be on his way out. Is he better than CBT or TC?
Anthony Scully plays left-wing, we already have players in that position, albeit one of them, Charlie Kirk is likely to be on his way out. Is he better than CBT or TC?
Definitely better than TC, at least for now. Probably similar level to CBT but the fact he doesn’t get injured loads probably puts him above him too. CBT and TC are both better on the left but have also both played well on the right before. So if we are playing with wingers then Scully would be a great option
Apparently missed out on him to Wigan last summer, and then hardly played for them all season.
With their financial issues, he may be free to leave or for a small fee.
Scored double figures each time he’s played in League One. He’s a southerner too so that may help.
We need more goals across the team to replace what we have lost from Rak-Sakyi.
Think he’d be a good addition.
I think he’d be a great signing. But it probably depends on what Holden is planning tactically. He’d be great if we keep the 4-3-3 but does Scully fit a 3-5-2?
It’s good to have flexibility and adaptability and with CBT and Campbell, it’ll be a waste constantly playing 3-5-2. I think we could see a mixture of the two systems this coming season.
Completely agree but if we are going to mix it up between the 2, how many wingers will we seriously need? You'll want about 4 if you're playing 433 a lot, but 2 would probably be enough (plus someone like Payne who could play there) if you're not playing it week in week out.
Apparently missed out on him to Wigan last summer, and then hardly played for them all season.
With their financial issues, he may be free to leave or for a small fee.
Scored double figures each time he’s played in League One. He’s a southerner too so that may help.
We need more goals across the team to replace what we have lost from Rak-Sakyi.
Think he’d be a good addition.
I think he’d be a great signing. But it probably depends on what Holden is planning tactically. He’d be great if we keep the 4-3-3 but does Scully fit a 3-5-2?
It’s good to have flexibility and adaptability and with CBT and Campbell, it’ll be a waste constantly playing 3-5-2. I think we could see a mixture of the two systems this coming season.
Completely agree but if we are going to mix it up between the 2, how many wingers will we seriously need? You'll want about 4 if you're playing 433 a lot, but 2 would probably be enough (plus someone like Payne who could play there) if you're not playing it week in week out.
I think either way you want at least 3.
Holden has said Payne isn’t a winger but can play there if needed.
Kirk and DJ are very likely moving on, so you need at least one more. That’s also accounting for all being fit at the same time.
I think signing Scully would be enough alongside CBT and Campbell.
You don’t want to block the development of players like Rylah trying to push on either - all the more reason why Kirk and DJ will be offski.
Scully sounds decent on paper, don't really know enough about him. Maybe he is fed up at Wigan and wants to head back South.
I just can't help but have a sneaky suspicion that Wigan get bought by that Billionaire local lad who owns Wigan Warriors; and very quickly go into a mini spending spree again. They are not currently I admin so don't have to shift.players for peanuts yet.
Scully would be a fantastic addition, think he can also play down the middle too. And someone we've tried to sign before but would probably need DJ out the door first.
Apparently missed out on him to Wigan last summer, and then hardly played for them all season.
With their financial issues, he may be free to leave or for a small fee.
Scored double figures each time he’s played in League One. He’s a southerner too so that may help.
We need more goals across the team to replace what we have lost from Rak-Sakyi.
Think he’d be a good addition.
I think he’d be a great signing. But it probably depends on what Holden is planning tactically. He’d be great if we keep the 4-3-3 but does Scully fit a 3-5-2?
It’s good to have flexibility and adaptability and with CBT and Campbell, it’ll be a waste constantly playing 3-5-2. I think we could see a mixture of the two systems this coming season.
Completely agree but if we are going to mix it up between the 2, how many wingers will we seriously need? You'll want about 4 if you're playing 433 a lot, but 2 would probably be enough (plus someone like Payne who could play there) if you're not playing it week in week out.
I think either way you want at least 3.
Holden has said Payne isn’t a winger but can play there if needed.
Kirk and DJ are very likely moving on, so you need at least one more. That’s also accounting for all being fit at the same time.
I think signing Scully would be enough alongside CBT and Campbell.
You don’t want to block the development of players like Rylah trying to push on either - all the more reason why Kirk and DJ will be offski.
Agree on the outgoings but 3 is still a bit overkill IMO with Payne and someone like Rylah adding further depth. Having said that, I’d prefer to sign someone like Scully and loan Campbell out.
I suspect that any incoming will be in positions we are deficient in. Until we move on Kirk and probably a couple more quite a few of our targets will have to wait.
Apparently missed out on him to Wigan last summer, and then hardly played for them all season.
With their financial issues, he may be free to leave or for a small fee.
Scored double figures each time he’s played in League One. He’s a southerner too so that may help.
We need more goals across the team to replace what we have lost from Rak-Sakyi.
Think he’d be a good addition.
I think he’d be a great signing. But it probably depends on what Holden is planning tactically. He’d be great if we keep the 4-3-3 but does Scully fit a 3-5-2?
It’s good to have flexibility and adaptability and with CBT and Campbell, it’ll be a waste constantly playing 3-5-2. I think we could see a mixture of the two systems this coming season.
Completely agree but if we are going to mix it up between the 2, how many wingers will we seriously need? You'll want about 4 if you're playing 433 a lot, but 2 would probably be enough (plus someone like Payne who could play there) if you're not playing it week in week out.
I think either way you want at least 3.
Holden has said Payne isn’t a winger but can play there if needed.
Kirk and DJ are very likely moving on, so you need at least one more. That’s also accounting for all being fit at the same time.
I think signing Scully would be enough alongside CBT and Campbell.
You don’t want to block the development of players like Rylah trying to push on either - all the more reason why Kirk and DJ will be offski.
Agree on the outgoings but 3 is still a bit overkill IMO with Payne and someone like Rylah adding further depth. Having said that, I’d prefer to sign someone like Scully and loan Campbell out.
Fair enough mate, IMO, that’s just the same as having what we had under Holden. Rak-Sakyi out, Scully in.
Campbell is developing well but will need time out of the team, Rylah is very young and will only be pushing to break in, Payne isn’t a winger, CBT hasn’t had a injury free season with us yet.
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I hadn't seen they were actually keeping Ortega around so that changes things! As you rightly say a similarly structured deal to the one they did with Southampton for Bazunu could be the way to go if they don't just go for a straightforward loan.
Or maybe the last few years has made me a cynic.
May didn’t sign in May it’s thought he may or may not sign soon.
Something is telling me that you may be ma(y)king it up as you go along.
Not sure how far we were short of the asking price but bad call not to pay the price asked as Thomas has been Championship quality and we had first refusal from Boreham wood.
Apparently missed out on him to Wigan last summer, and then hardly played for them all season.
With their financial issues, he may be free to leave or for a small fee.
Scored double figures each time he’s played in League One. He’s a southerner too so that may help.
We need more goals across the team to replace what we have lost from Rak-Sakyi.
Think he’d be a good addition.
If anyone knew if May had been in the building my money would've been on you?
Anything to tell us?
Holden has said Payne isn’t a winger but can play there if needed.
Kirk and DJ are very likely moving on, so you need at least one more. That’s also accounting for all being fit at the same time.
I think signing Scully would be enough alongside CBT and Campbell.
You don’t want to block the development of players like Rylah trying to push on either - all the more reason why Kirk and DJ will be offski.
I just can't help but have a sneaky suspicion that Wigan get bought by that Billionaire local lad who owns Wigan Warriors; and very quickly go into a mini spending spree again. They are not currently I admin so don't have to shift.players for peanuts yet.
Campbell is developing well but will need time out of the team, Rylah is very young and will only be pushing to break in, Payne isn’t a winger, CBT hasn’t had a injury free season with us yet.