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Michael Appleton - Sacked 23/1/2024 (p105)

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  • It just hurts to have a 'Next Manager' thread and not see the Appleton photo on every page. Our golden age has passed, and we didn't even enjoy it!

    Surprised we haven't memed him more, pictures of him with hands in pockets with captions about waiting for a new manager.
  • edited January 2024
    cafcfan said:
    I am currently in Florida. Weather was rubbish so we did a bit of shopping yesterday and saw an Armani Exchange baseball cap.  I thought, it's got A X on the front that must be shorthand for Appleton Out.

    So, I bought it and the hat did its job.  From now on it will be my new lucky cap.
    Can you buy some CP clobber next for Charlton Promoted or Chris Powell please? 
  • It just hurts to have a 'Next Manager' thread and not see the Appleton photo on every page. Our golden age has passed, and we didn't even enjoy it!
    Ahh it's a bit too soon. Give it approx 6 months and his mug shot will be on your screen again. 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Ainsworth would have been such a Sandgaard appointment with their shared music interest 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    I could just envision him walking him out both playing their guitars on the pitch. 


    Johnny Jackson never played his guitar on the pitch though. 
     
    Remember his lockdown videos   :):smile:
     

  • rikofold said:
    He had to go, it was clear a few games ago! However now he's gone we need to move on, rapidly!
    We need a man manager, who is a good coach that instlls pride in the shirt and, more importantly, themselves. We do have the players to get us to safety, but we need a manager who has been there and done it at this or Championship level. So for me it's between Jones, Duff, or even Warnock. If it's either of the first 2 I'd ask AC to oversee as an experienced 'old head'. As for Scott he has to get this right or he should also fall on his sword/sacked. 
    Next few days are crucial in the future of our once great club....the clock is ticking!
    Can someone explain to me what Duff has actually done to even begin to be in consideration? Barnsley should have been a club in the play offs, they were Championship the year before and had a strong squad. He's had two half decent seasons in League One and suddenly he's one of the best choices for us? Not convinced.

    We need to get out of this mess. We have the players, we need a manager they want to play for and who has a bit of gravitas about him to get them playing. 

    Jones seems to be the most capable out there, Bowyer also isn't employed and we know about him. Let's not have a punt on someone who 'might' be good. There's been too much of that. 
    He took a Cheltenham side that had never been above L2 and had been finishing at the lower end of that up to L1 and made them competitive at that level, turning Alfie May into a goal machine along the way in a 352 and having Cheltenham to their highest ever finish. Cheltenham being in L1 let alone surviving there was completely unprecedented, it's a really big deal for them. Barnsley are a weird club. They have rich owners who will not spend and rely on selling their best players every season and bringing new ones in. They didn't have a strong squad; only one of their top 6 appearance makers from the previous season were still there in 22/23 and they lost all their goalscorers. They lost Cauley Woodrow and replaced him with Slobodan Tedic. Duff turned Devante Cole from a non-goalscoring striker into a machine (familiar theme there). They keep their good players on average for about two years before a better team comes in for them and they go and need to be replaced, and their first window in 22/23 was pretty much entirely free transfers and loans just like ours was in Garner's first window. They finished 4th with 86 points and lost in the play-off final at the death against a Sheff Weds team who finished on 96 points, which would have won them the league every year going back to 2017/18. We were 10th on 62. Other than his disappointing brief spell at Swansea a league up that's his whole career, there aren't long periods of failure in amongst the successes. That's why he's seen as a good choice, we're actually fairly similar to Barnsley in the frustrating transfer operations and lack of team stability but they made a much better fist of it under Duff than we have in years.
    UP ( the) DUFF ! 

    He'll do for me.
    No pregnant pause from Fanny, then :) 
     

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  • WHO in their right mind, who knows anything about our situation, who has an ounce of common sense and footballing nous, WHO would take on this shit show?

    The answer is, someone like Micky Apples, eyeing up 6 months work and a generous pay off at the end.

    I despair!
    His soundbite from the outset, that he just wanted any club to give him a job. Not sure whether it was to earn a corn, or rebuild his reputation, but he will surely now finf it very difficult to get a club to offer him a job. It would not surprise me if his contract had a clause based on targets and the club had reached said point that he could be shoved with little compo. Let's face it, he was cheap, but not very cheerful.

    If the owners are serious about success, AND recouping their ever increasing losses, then they need to get the next appointment right. Surely a proven manager with free reign is the only sensible business decision. 
    Exactly, get rid of scott next & put what I am sure will be his hefty salary towards a proven manager.

    (Of course they won't get rid of scott he's one of the gang)
  • edited January 2024
    WHO in their right mind, who knows anything about our situation, who has an ounce of common sense and footballing nous, WHO would take on this shit show?

    The answer is, someone like Micky Apples, eyeing up 6 months work and a generous pay off at the end.

    I despair!
    His soundbite from the outset, that he just wanted any club to give him a job. Not sure whether it was to earn a corn, or rebuild his reputation, but he will surely now finf it very difficult to get a club to offer him a job. It would not surprise me if his contract had a clause based on targets and the club had reached said point that he could be shoved with little compo. Let's face it, he was cheap, but not very cheerful.

    If the owners are serious about success, AND recouping their ever increasing losses, then they need to get the next appointment right. Surely a proven manager with free reign is the only sensible business decision. 
    Exactly, get rid of scott next & put what I am sure will be his hefty salary towards a proven manager.

    (Of course they won't get rid of scott he's one of the gang)
    This just isn't how clubs are run anymore. For better or worse (and I would argue for better), the role of the Andy Scott figure is to ensure continuity of recruitment, style, and personnel regardless of who the manager is. The days of letting a manager run everything are long gone, and rightly so given the modern game. 

    Whether Scott is good at his job, the jury is very much out. Some good recruitments this window, I still don't know who was in charge of what and when over the summer, and last Jan was poor. 

    But given how frequently this club changes managers, there needs to be continuity in recruitment of both players and managers. We have desperately missed that, and we seem to perpetually be a window behind when recruiting, e.g. we recruited for Garner last Jan and in the summer with ball playing CBs and midfielders, and it feels like we recruited for Holden's 3-5-2 in this window. 
  • rikofold said:
    He had to go, it was clear a few games ago! However now he's gone we need to move on, rapidly!
    We need a man manager, who is a good coach that instlls pride in the shirt and, more importantly, themselves. We do have the players to get us to safety, but we need a manager who has been there and done it at this or Championship level. So for me it's between Jones, Duff, or even Warnock. If it's either of the first 2 I'd ask AC to oversee as an experienced 'old head'. As for Scott he has to get this right or he should also fall on his sword/sacked. 
    Next few days are crucial in the future of our once great club....the clock is ticking!
    Can someone explain to me what Duff has actually done to even begin to be in consideration? Barnsley should have been a club in the play offs, they were Championship the year before and had a strong squad. He's had two half decent seasons in League One and suddenly he's one of the best choices for us? Not convinced.

    We need to get out of this mess. We have the players, we need a manager they want to play for and who has a bit of gravitas about him to get them playing. 

    Jones seems to be the most capable out there, Bowyer also isn't employed and we know about him. Let's not have a punt on someone who 'might' be good. There's been too much of that. 
    He took a Cheltenham side that had never been above L2 and had been finishing at the lower end of that up to L1 and made them competitive at that level, turning Alfie May into a goal machine along the way in a 352 and leading Cheltenham to their highest ever finish. Cheltenham being in L1 let alone surviving there was completely unprecedented, it's a really big deal for them. Barnsley are a weird club. They have rich owners who will not spend and rely on selling their best players every season and bringing new ones in. They didn't have a strong squad; only one of their top 6 appearance makers from the previous season were still there in 22/23 and they lost all their goalscorers. They lost Cauley Woodrow and replaced him with Slobodan Tedic. Duff turned Devante Cole from a non-goalscoring striker into a machine (familiar theme there). They keep their good players on average for about two years before a better team comes in for them and they go and need to be replaced, and their first window in 22/23 was pretty much entirely free transfers and loans just like ours was in Garner's first window. They finished 4th with 86 points and lost in the play-off final at the death against a Sheff Weds team who finished on 96 points, which would have won them the league every year going back to 2017/18. We were 10th on 62. Other than his disappointing brief spell at Swansea a league up that's his whole career, there aren't long periods of failure in amongst the successes. That's why he's seen as a good choice, we're actually fairly similar to Barnsley in the frustrating transfer operations and lack of team stability but they made a much better fist of it under Duff than we have in years.
    He feels like he would be a good fit at this moment in time. I have questions around how well he plays possession football and how naturally that comes to him, as I think we have both the CBs and CMs to be a more possession and less direct side. 

    But assuming Jones is a no go, and I struggle to see him coming here and us affording him, Duff feels like a clear front runner.

    Cawley says Euell would be interested, but I don't think this is the time for someone who has never managed at senior level before.
  • rikofold said:
    He had to go, it was clear a few games ago! However now he's gone we need to move on, rapidly!
    We need a man manager, who is a good coach that instlls pride in the shirt and, more importantly, themselves. We do have the players to get us to safety, but we need a manager who has been there and done it at this or Championship level. So for me it's between Jones, Duff, or even Warnock. If it's either of the first 2 I'd ask AC to oversee as an experienced 'old head'. As for Scott he has to get this right or he should also fall on his sword/sacked. 
    Next few days are crucial in the future of our once great club....the clock is ticking!
    Can someone explain to me what Duff has actually done to even begin to be in consideration? Barnsley should have been a club in the play offs, they were Championship the year before and had a strong squad. He's had two half decent seasons in League One and suddenly he's one of the best choices for us? Not convinced.

    We need to get out of this mess. We have the players, we need a manager they want to play for and who has a bit of gravitas about him to get them playing. 

    Jones seems to be the most capable out there, Bowyer also isn't employed and we know about him. Let's not have a punt on someone who 'might' be good. There's been too much of that. 
    He took a Cheltenham side that had never been above L2 and had been finishing at the lower end of that up to L1 and made them competitive at that level, turning Alfie May into a goal machine along the way in a 352 and having Cheltenham to their highest ever finish. Cheltenham being in L1 let alone surviving there was completely unprecedented, it's a really big deal for them. Barnsley are a weird club. They have rich owners who will not spend and rely on selling their best players every season and bringing new ones in. They didn't have a strong squad; only one of their top 6 appearance makers from the previous season were still there in 22/23 and they lost all their goalscorers. They lost Cauley Woodrow and replaced him with Slobodan Tedic. Duff turned Devante Cole from a non-goalscoring striker into a machine (familiar theme there). They keep their good players on average for about two years before a better team comes in for them and they go and need to be replaced, and their first window in 22/23 was pretty much entirely free transfers and loans just like ours was in Garner's first window. They finished 4th with 86 points and lost in the play-off final at the death against a Sheff Weds team who finished on 96 points, which would have won them the league every year going back to 2017/18. We were 10th on 62. Other than his disappointing brief spell at Swansea a league up that's his whole career, there aren't long periods of failure in amongst the successes. That's why he's seen as a good choice, we're actually fairly similar to Barnsley in the frustrating transfer operations and lack of team stability but they made a much better fist of it under Duff than we have in years.
    UP ( the) DUFF ! 

    He'll do for me.
    Any sign of a Tingle..🙄
  • Rowett, Jones or Pearson would be fine, all have managed at levels above us and recently. 
  • Bowyer, Rowett or Jones.
  • And for posterity, chilling…


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  • Rowett, Jones or Pearson would be fine, all have managed at levels above us and recently. 
    Appleton managed in the championship last year…
  • PWADDICK said:
    Rowett, Jones or Pearson would be fine, all have managed at levels above us and recently. 
    Appleton managed in the championship last year…
    Well that's my hopes dashed for all 3 then
  • How about ex-Charlton legends that are currently in a managerial role - Claus Jensen!!

    From this article

    "In 2015, Jensen and two other Danish celebrities (a chef and a comedian) invested in Danish lower-league side Nykobing with a view to get the side promoted to the Danish Superliga by 2020. The former footballer was appointed sporting director/general manager of the club but took on the head coach role in 2020."

    He's got what it takes to work with our SMT

    https://www.premierleagueheroes.com/claus-jensen/





  • Best Man, Andy Woodman of Bromley FC  Quite successful last three seasons.

     or 

    Chris Powell

    Why not Curbishley


  • Best Man, Andy Woodman of Bromley FC  Quite successful last three seasons.

    Be careful what you wish for!
  • Please don't place silly suggestions on here.  We know what happened last time!
  • Following the departure of Michael Appleton as Men’s First-Team Head Coach, the Board of Directors wanted to update the club's supporters. Please see the update below:

    Our current league position and form over the last two months is not good enough and does not match the ambition and investment of the club’s owners or the expectations of us as a Board, the club’s staff and you, the supporters.

    To arrest our recent form the decision has been taken to relieve Men’s First-Team Head Coach Michael Appleton and Men’s First-Team Coach Richard O’Donnell of their respective roles.

    Our search for the club’s next Men’s First-Team Head Coach is under way. Given our current position and the ambition of everyone at the club, it is vital we get the right appointment to lead Charlton forward. 

    In the meantime Curtis Fleming will take interim charge, supported by Jason Pearce and Stephen Henderson. Curtis is a very experienced coach while Jason and Stephen have a real understanding of the club given their history as players at Charlton.

    While appointing a new Head Coach is a key priority, we are also well aware that there is just over a week left in the January transfer window. We have already signed seven players this month and we are still looking to further strengthen the squad before the window closes next week. The transfer activity will be overseen, as it has been throughout January, by the club’s Technical Director Andy Scott. 

    We would like to thank you for your continued, passionate support and assure you that everyone at the club is working hard to turn things around on the pitch. Your support will play an important role in helping us finish the season as high up the table as possible.

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