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Online Fans Meeting With Club Directors This Wednesday
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"I can ensure you..."?
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Check the dictionary bud. Ensure is a far stronger commitment than assure.IdleHans said:"I can ensure you..."?
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I actually think the noises from this ownership and their actions have been good so far. Yes the summer window was disappointing but running Q&A’s like this, hiring (on paper) some decent people behind the scenes and the noises coming through about the signings this window. There is a professionalism about them that I’ve not seen in 10/15 years. They still have time to prove them selves for me.I am someone that usually gives managers next to no time before I want them out but FWIW I think Appleton will come good.15
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Very interesting that the board are having this meeting at short notice in the middle of January when the season again is pretty much over (Bar getting up to 50 points).
We shall see what’s said. Would have preferred a face to face one at the ground as you can tell a lot from people’s body language and you can’t deflect away the difficult questions unlike on a online meeting when the questions have to be sent in.
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Carter has visited the museum although he didn't announce himself, which is fine and maybe a good thing as he wasn't doing the big "I am". We only realised it was him after he'd left and saw his name in the visitors book.PragueAddick said:
Carter was pitched by Methven as the key link between the board and the fans. So far there has been zero sign of that being put into practice, for whatever reason. I understand that CAST have been more than ready to engage with him but not been told when or how that might happen.Airman Brown said:
One of my criticisms has been that they haven’t done this, so I agree, although I am sceptical about the ability of the panel to speak with authority about the strategic direction of the club. Rodwell and Elliott are employees. I know nothing about Gavin Carter so look forward to finding out.Siv_in_Norfolk said:Credit where its due, this is timely and appropriate given the context of a poor situation at our beloved club. Would be easy (but risky) for them to hide.
He has a Twiiter account:
https://x.com/gavin_carter?s=21&t=oKpEK5xuwukoPQ-YsizesQbut is not very active with it, generally, despite having made his money in tech.His profile states that he is non-exec. He is also based in Ontario. That need not matter, Mike Stevens was pretty effective from Chicago, long before the internet made things easier, but so far GC has been completely invisible since the announcement of his appointment. So seeing and hearing from him will be one of many interesting aspects of the event.
Maybe he's just not the type of person who feels the need to be active on social media, not everyone does, but if so he is, perhaps, an odd choice to be part of this event.
I guess that him being both a owner and a fan is seen as giving more credibility.
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Yeah, it is, but you don't say, "I can ensure you ...." - that's just a mistake and he means "assure".carly burn said:
Check the dictionary bud. Ensure is a far stronger commitment than assure.IdleHans said:"I can ensure you..."?
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If he'd said "I will ensure ..." then that's him saying he will make sure it happens.7 -
Who cares. We’ve got much bigger problems than a small typo from a non exec director.Off_it said:
Yeah, it is, but you don't say, "I can ensure you ...." - that's just a mistake and he means "assure".carly burn said:
Check the dictionary bud. Ensure is a far stronger commitment than assure.IdleHans said:"I can ensure you..."?
FFS
If he'd said "I will ensure ..." then that's him saying he will make sure it happens.0 -
Know wee haven't.Oh Eddie Youds... said:
Who cares. We’ve got much bigger problems than a small typo from a non exec director.Off_it said:
Yeah, it is, but you don't say, "I can ensure you ...." - that's just a mistake and he means "assure".carly burn said:
Check the dictionary bud. Ensure is a far stronger commitment than assure.IdleHans said:"I can ensure you..."?
FFS
If he'd said "I will ensure ..." then that's him saying he will make sure it happens.9 -
He was very active on Twitter about a year ago defending Martin SandgaardHenry Irving said:
Carter has visited the museum although he didn't announce himself, which is fine and maybe a good thing as he wasn't doing the big "I am". We only realised it was him after he'd left and saw his name in the visitors book.PragueAddick said:
Carter was pitched by Methven as the key link between the board and the fans. So far there has been zero sign of that being put into practice, for whatever reason. I understand that CAST have been more than ready to engage with him but not been told when or how that might happen.Airman Brown said:
One of my criticisms has been that they haven’t done this, so I agree, although I am sceptical about the ability of the panel to speak with authority about the strategic direction of the club. Rodwell and Elliott are employees. I know nothing about Gavin Carter so look forward to finding out.Siv_in_Norfolk said:Credit where its due, this is timely and appropriate given the context of a poor situation at our beloved club. Would be easy (but risky) for them to hide.
He has a Twiiter account:
https://x.com/gavin_carter?s=21&t=oKpEK5xuwukoPQ-YsizesQbut is not very active with it, generally, despite having made his money in tech.His profile states that he is non-exec. He is also based in Ontario. That need not matter, Mike Stevens was pretty effective from Chicago, long before the internet made things easier, but so far GC has been completely invisible since the announcement of his appointment. So seeing and hearing from him will be one of many interesting aspects of the event.
Maybe he's just not the type of person who feels the need to be active on social media, not everyone does, but if so he is, perhaps, an odd choice to be part of this event.
I guess that him being both a owner and a fan is seen as giving more credibility.6 -
Yes I think that he probably is, based on his overall usage of both Twitter and LI, not just in a Charlton context. He may also hold the not unreasonable view that especially when it comes to football, it's just too toxic for any hope of constructive dialogue.Henry Irving said:
Carter has visited the museum although he didn't announce himself, which is fine and maybe a good thing as he wasn't doing the big "I am". We only realised it was him after he'd left and saw his name in the visitors book.PragueAddick said:
Carter was pitched by Methven as the key link between the board and the fans. So far there has been zero sign of that being put into practice, for whatever reason. I understand that CAST have been more than ready to engage with him but not been told when or how that might happen.Airman Brown said:
One of my criticisms has been that they haven’t done this, so I agree, although I am sceptical about the ability of the panel to speak with authority about the strategic direction of the club. Rodwell and Elliott are employees. I know nothing about Gavin Carter so look forward to finding out.Siv_in_Norfolk said:Credit where its due, this is timely and appropriate given the context of a poor situation at our beloved club. Would be easy (but risky) for them to hide.
He has a Twiiter account:
https://x.com/gavin_carter?s=21&t=oKpEK5xuwukoPQ-YsizesQbut is not very active with it, generally, despite having made his money in tech.His profile states that he is non-exec. He is also based in Ontario. That need not matter, Mike Stevens was pretty effective from Chicago, long before the internet made things easier, but so far GC has been completely invisible since the announcement of his appointment. So seeing and hearing from him will be one of many interesting aspects of the event.
Maybe he's just not the type of person who feels the need to be active on social media, not everyone does, but if so he is, perhaps, an odd choice to be part of this event.
I guess that him being both a owner and a fan is seen as giving more credibility.
For whatever reason his purported role as the main link between boardroom and fans has failed to happen thus far, but he now seems ready to put that right. It will be interesting to see and hear from him on Wednesday.4 - Sponsored links:
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carly burn said:
Check the dictionary bud. Ensure is a far stronger commitment than assure.IdleHans said:"I can ensure you..."?
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Quite right, don't know what I was thinking0 -
CAST have had some engagement with Gavin Carter in terms of getting to know each other. He is genuinely a fan and serious business person. It will be good for him to be involved in this Q&A so that the wider fanbase have the chance to hear directly from him.14
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Nobody with any sense can accept the club’s current situation because it is not sustainable, and that includes the funders. The question is how much bullshit the latter have swallowed, because it is going to cost them a lot more money to get re-established in the Championship - but better that than wasting it in L1 or L2, which is the alternative.
The issue isn’t transfer fees - it’s covering the operating loss, which cannot be eliminated. Selling players is the alternative but it’s unlikely to cover the deficit year on year.
Personally I’ve seen no evidence of a business plan at all, just trivial cost cutting, probably offset by additional senior salaries.19 -
First question, (credit to Airman Brown) should be ‘How many other clubs in the league have the ownership chosen by the management like we are?’0
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Yep, agreed - the cost of living crisis, the global impact of the war in Ukraine, the humanitarian crisis in Gaza (and elsewhere), the tube strike, global warming, the threat of an asteroid strike - all much bigger problems.Oh Eddie Youds... said:
Who cares. We’ve got much bigger problems than a small typo from a non exec director.Off_it said:
Yeah, it is, but you don't say, "I can ensure you ...." - that's just a mistake and he means "assure".carly burn said:
Check the dictionary bud. Ensure is a far stronger commitment than assure.IdleHans said:"I can ensure you..."?
FFS
If he'd said "I will ensure ..." then that's him saying he will make sure it happens.
In fact, in that context, none of us should probably even be remotely worried about such trivial things as football .....1 -
A Fans Advisor based in Canada, hmmmm how does that work?JohnnyH2 said:
He was very active on Twitter about a year ago defending Martin SandgaardHenry Irving said:
Carter has visited the museum although he didn't announce himself, which is fine and maybe a good thing as he wasn't doing the big "I am". We only realised it was him after he'd left and saw his name in the visitors book.PragueAddick said:
Carter was pitched by Methven as the key link between the board and the fans. So far there has been zero sign of that being put into practice, for whatever reason. I understand that CAST have been more than ready to engage with him but not been told when or how that might happen.Airman Brown said:
One of my criticisms has been that they haven’t done this, so I agree, although I am sceptical about the ability of the panel to speak with authority about the strategic direction of the club. Rodwell and Elliott are employees. I know nothing about Gavin Carter so look forward to finding out.Siv_in_Norfolk said:Credit where its due, this is timely and appropriate given the context of a poor situation at our beloved club. Would be easy (but risky) for them to hide.
He has a Twiiter account:
https://x.com/gavin_carter?s=21&t=oKpEK5xuwukoPQ-YsizesQbut is not very active with it, generally, despite having made his money in tech.His profile states that he is non-exec. He is also based in Ontario. That need not matter, Mike Stevens was pretty effective from Chicago, long before the internet made things easier, but so far GC has been completely invisible since the announcement of his appointment. So seeing and hearing from him will be one of many interesting aspects of the event.
Maybe he's just not the type of person who feels the need to be active on social media, not everyone does, but if so he is, perhaps, an odd choice to be part of this event.
I guess that him being both a owner and a fan is seen as giving more credibility.3 -
Doesn't have to because he's not a Fans Advisor, he's one of the owners.ElfsborgAddick said:
A Fans Advisor based in Canada, hmmmm how does that work?JohnnyH2 said:
He was very active on Twitter about a year ago defending Martin SandgaardHenry Irving said:
Carter has visited the museum although he didn't announce himself, which is fine and maybe a good thing as he wasn't doing the big "I am". We only realised it was him after he'd left and saw his name in the visitors book.PragueAddick said:
Carter was pitched by Methven as the key link between the board and the fans. So far there has been zero sign of that being put into practice, for whatever reason. I understand that CAST have been more than ready to engage with him but not been told when or how that might happen.Airman Brown said:
One of my criticisms has been that they haven’t done this, so I agree, although I am sceptical about the ability of the panel to speak with authority about the strategic direction of the club. Rodwell and Elliott are employees. I know nothing about Gavin Carter so look forward to finding out.Siv_in_Norfolk said:Credit where its due, this is timely and appropriate given the context of a poor situation at our beloved club. Would be easy (but risky) for them to hide.
He has a Twiiter account:
https://x.com/gavin_carter?s=21&t=oKpEK5xuwukoPQ-YsizesQbut is not very active with it, generally, despite having made his money in tech.His profile states that he is non-exec. He is also based in Ontario. That need not matter, Mike Stevens was pretty effective from Chicago, long before the internet made things easier, but so far GC has been completely invisible since the announcement of his appointment. So seeing and hearing from him will be one of many interesting aspects of the event.
Maybe he's just not the type of person who feels the need to be active on social media, not everyone does, but if so he is, perhaps, an odd choice to be part of this event.
I guess that him being both a owner and a fan is seen as giving more credibility.5 -
Is there anything to stop them just walking away?Airman Brown said:Nobody with any sense can accept the club’s current situation because it is not sustainable, and that includes the funders. The question is how much bullshit the latter have swallowed, because it is going to cost them a lot more money to get re-established in the Championship - but better that than wasting it in L1 or L2, which is the alternative.
The issue isn’t transfer fees - it’s covering the operating loss, which cannot be eliminated. Selling players is the alternative but it’s unlikely to cover the deficit year on year.
Personally I’ve seen no evidence of a business plan at all, just trivial cost cutting, probably offset by additional senior salaries.
We are told Friedman and Brener are part of global football partners but as far as I'm aware there is no way of getting evidence of that.
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As far as I'm aware significant control of Charlton Athletic football company ltd is held by SE7 partners ltd.
Significant control of SE7 partners is held by Global football partners ltd. And there the visible chain ends..
In the past you could see a clear path of liability to Duchatelet and Sandgaard. Actual people
Not so with this lot.
Should that not be a major concern when it all goes tits?
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Wrong day of the week, it’s my midweek roast dinner night, grrrrrrrrrr16
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I stand corrected.Henry Irving said:
Doesn't have to because he's not a Fans Advisor, he's one of the owners.ElfsborgAddick said:
A Fans Advisor based in Canada, hmmmm how does that work?JohnnyH2 said:
He was very active on Twitter about a year ago defending Martin SandgaardHenry Irving said:
Carter has visited the museum although he didn't announce himself, which is fine and maybe a good thing as he wasn't doing the big "I am". We only realised it was him after he'd left and saw his name in the visitors book.PragueAddick said:
Carter was pitched by Methven as the key link between the board and the fans. So far there has been zero sign of that being put into practice, for whatever reason. I understand that CAST have been more than ready to engage with him but not been told when or how that might happen.Airman Brown said:
One of my criticisms has been that they haven’t done this, so I agree, although I am sceptical about the ability of the panel to speak with authority about the strategic direction of the club. Rodwell and Elliott are employees. I know nothing about Gavin Carter so look forward to finding out.Siv_in_Norfolk said:Credit where its due, this is timely and appropriate given the context of a poor situation at our beloved club. Would be easy (but risky) for them to hide.
He has a Twiiter account:
https://x.com/gavin_carter?s=21&t=oKpEK5xuwukoPQ-YsizesQbut is not very active with it, generally, despite having made his money in tech.His profile states that he is non-exec. He is also based in Ontario. That need not matter, Mike Stevens was pretty effective from Chicago, long before the internet made things easier, but so far GC has been completely invisible since the announcement of his appointment. So seeing and hearing from him will be one of many interesting aspects of the event.
Maybe he's just not the type of person who feels the need to be active on social media, not everyone does, but if so he is, perhaps, an odd choice to be part of this event.
I guess that him being both a owner and a fan is seen as giving more credibility.0 - Sponsored links:
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Maybe a question could be why have we signed yet another player that needs to be eased in and isn't ready to go. Why do we never learn?14
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Perhaps we will finally find out what "The Project" is that Scott and co always seem to mention, because I haven't got a clue.0
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Will this be like Only Fans and you need to register…..apparently……asking for a friend1
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Especially when Andy Scott said we’d be doing the opposite ie permanent signings who’d been playing recently and were therefore good to go.Talal said:Maybe a question could be why have we signed yet another player that needs to be eased in and isn't ready to go. Why do we never learn?0 -
Believe it was one comment. There were a fair few on here happy to defend the Sandgaard’s at the time.JohnnyH2 said:
He was very active on Twitter about a year ago defending Martin SandgaardHenry Irving said:
Carter has visited the museum although he didn't announce himself, which is fine and maybe a good thing as he wasn't doing the big "I am". We only realised it was him after he'd left and saw his name in the visitors book.PragueAddick said:
Carter was pitched by Methven as the key link between the board and the fans. So far there has been zero sign of that being put into practice, for whatever reason. I understand that CAST have been more than ready to engage with him but not been told when or how that might happen.Airman Brown said:
One of my criticisms has been that they haven’t done this, so I agree, although I am sceptical about the ability of the panel to speak with authority about the strategic direction of the club. Rodwell and Elliott are employees. I know nothing about Gavin Carter so look forward to finding out.Siv_in_Norfolk said:Credit where its due, this is timely and appropriate given the context of a poor situation at our beloved club. Would be easy (but risky) for them to hide.
He has a Twiiter account:
https://x.com/gavin_carter?s=21&t=oKpEK5xuwukoPQ-YsizesQbut is not very active with it, generally, despite having made his money in tech.His profile states that he is non-exec. He is also based in Ontario. That need not matter, Mike Stevens was pretty effective from Chicago, long before the internet made things easier, but so far GC has been completely invisible since the announcement of his appointment. So seeing and hearing from him will be one of many interesting aspects of the event.
Maybe he's just not the type of person who feels the need to be active on social media, not everyone does, but if so he is, perhaps, an odd choice to be part of this event.
I guess that him being both a owner and a fan is seen as giving more credibility.0 -
Tick in the box for the far outdated Supporters Charter, admittedly digital age provides greater accessibility - but Charlton TV will get a few hits worldwide. Maybe even new subscribers...1
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Not sure anyone whose name wasn’t Sandgaard actually thought Martin’s appointment was a good idea. Everyone I know thought it was a joke. Unfortunately there has been so much madness over so many years it gets hard to apply any perspective.The Red Robin said:
Believe it was one comment. There were a fair few on here happy to defend the Sandgaard’s at the time.JohnnyH2 said:
He was very active on Twitter about a year ago defending Martin SandgaardHenry Irving said:
Carter has visited the museum although he didn't announce himself, which is fine and maybe a good thing as he wasn't doing the big "I am". We only realised it was him after he'd left and saw his name in the visitors book.PragueAddick said:
Carter was pitched by Methven as the key link between the board and the fans. So far there has been zero sign of that being put into practice, for whatever reason. I understand that CAST have been more than ready to engage with him but not been told when or how that might happen.Airman Brown said:
One of my criticisms has been that they haven’t done this, so I agree, although I am sceptical about the ability of the panel to speak with authority about the strategic direction of the club. Rodwell and Elliott are employees. I know nothing about Gavin Carter so look forward to finding out.Siv_in_Norfolk said:Credit where its due, this is timely and appropriate given the context of a poor situation at our beloved club. Would be easy (but risky) for them to hide.
He has a Twiiter account:
https://x.com/gavin_carter?s=21&t=oKpEK5xuwukoPQ-YsizesQbut is not very active with it, generally, despite having made his money in tech.His profile states that he is non-exec. He is also based in Ontario. That need not matter, Mike Stevens was pretty effective from Chicago, long before the internet made things easier, but so far GC has been completely invisible since the announcement of his appointment. So seeing and hearing from him will be one of many interesting aspects of the event.
Maybe he's just not the type of person who feels the need to be active on social media, not everyone does, but if so he is, perhaps, an odd choice to be part of this event.
I guess that him being both a owner and a fan is seen as giving more credibility.16 -
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With the potential news that JCH hasn't made up his mind whether to join us or not, the CB from Plymouth also not announced and Coventry off to The Massives (although not confirmed), I'm betting this meeting will either be 1. Cancelled 2.Complete bs from them or 3 very toxic which they won't like.
It'll be interesting to see if any 'marquee' signings walk through the door tomorrow or Wednesday before the forum!0 -
I'm wondering if the investors put pressure on the SLT to arrange this meeting. If nothing else than to also try and understand where this is going!
I can't see why they would arrange it otherwise.1
