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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Portsmouth: Saturday 24th February 2024 | KO 15:00
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Isted was excellent today and Anderson really stepped up. We were much better second half and looked like a team.
Our corners are embarrassing and the crossing needs to improve.7 -
It's the longest winless run in the whole EFL.superclive98 said:
I think that it's 16 league games without a win, 5 in December, 6 in January and another 5 in February. The longest winless run of any team in the division this season.golfaddick said:
This.East Kent Addick said:We offer so little going forwards, Kanu and May put in so much effort with hardly any support from the midfield. Bakinson was poor, Thomas's passing gets worse each week and our set pieces were dreadful. Nice to get a clean sheet but there's a lack of creative quality across the team. Only 2 teams won less games than us.
We can nick points here & there but at the end of the day we still havent won in 15 games.
2 draws gets you 2 points.
1 win & 1 defeat gets you 3 points.2 -
Good performance again, following on from Bolton. I can't understand those on here complaining "but it's only a point"! Those same people, I bet, were saying just a few days ago how we were going to pick up zero points from Bolton, Pompey and Derby and how we were going to get slaughtered! We haven't been, there's a marked improvement in how we play and Jones has only had 3 games! Please, for once, can you just be positive that Jones has stopped the rot and is getting the side playing his way! We are slowly building and as long as we stay up that's all that matters. Players who were bereft of confidence are getting it back, take L. Jones as an example, he was excellent today. If we can get a point from Derby on Tuesday that'll be 3 points hardly anyone thought we would get. So let's, for once, enjoy the clean sheet and an unexpected point!45
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The big danger is that we'll draw at Derby, only to then lose at Northampton and fail to beat Carlisle.
We need this level of commitment in every game. I imagine Jones will rotate a bit to keep the energy levels up.9 -
Why do posters speculate what would have happened under Appleton? Do they think there are posters that think he should have stayed, because I don't know of any? He left six games ago. Blame him for what he achieved and everything else that happens this season if you like, regardless of what division we end up in, because I want Jones to get a free pass from the fans as we need managerial stability, and he seems competent despite having no wins to his name as yet. It won't stay that way. It's coming!
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We're now top of the division! For draws. The dreaded 'draw experts'3
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One that got away, felt Pompey were very average and bit of composure in front of goal and we'd have won it. Still we were very good value for a point and all of us would have taken that before the game.
Longer term I am a bit concerned about the style of play in that there doesn't seem to be any, it just seems to be go as direct as possible. We seem to be grinding these out through high work rate and while they are good points against the top sides I'm just a bit concerned if the players get worn out or a few injuries appear and we can't just rely on grinding out the wins we need.2 -
We will never, NEVER, go 23 without a clean sheet7
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I don't think that is out of the question if we play with he same sort of effort as in the last 2 games and we are not too ham-strung with injuries and suspensions.Redmidland said:Good performance again, following on from Bolton. I can't understand those on here complaining "but it's only a point"! Those same people, I bet, were saying just a few days ago how we were going to pick up zero points from Bolton, Pompey and Derby and how we were going to get slaughtered! We haven't been, there's a marked improvement in how we play and Jones has only had 3 games! Please, for once, can you just be positive that Jones has stopped the rot and is getting the side playing his way! We are slowly building and as long as we stay up that's all that matters. Players who were bereft of confidence are getting it back, take L. Jones as an example, he was excellent today. If we can get a point from Derby on Tuesday that'll be 3 points hardly anyone thought we would get. So let's, for once, enjoy the clean sheet and an unexpected point!
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I would respectively point you in the direction of the dross that has gone before for a comparison.East Kent Addick said:
I watched a piss poor game of football I'm not going to sugar coat it because we got a point off the league leaders when we are so precariously placed above the relegation places playing a shit formation that creates no chances for our forwards.Bailey said:
Cheerie Fecker aint yer !East Kent Addick said:We offer so little going forwards, Kanu and May put in so much effort with hardly any support from the midfield. Bakinson was poor, Thomas's passing gets worse each week and our set pieces were dreadful. Nice to get a clean sheet but there's a lack of creative quality across the team. Only 2 teams won less games than us.8 -
Hate to say it but we miss CBT.....not the most consistent of players but could turn the after-burners every now and again and cause teams some issues....11
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“It was a hard working performance, I like working hard….did I tell you I owned a shop in Grove Park”Mendonca In Asdas said:25 -
I’m trying to think of how our current form can track to safety. Purely illogical but illustrative example.
We draw every game (we are certainly more solid - just haven’t shown we can win). That’s 12 more points which is 46 and unlikely to be enough.
so to get to fifty we would need to win 2 games.
Haven’t won in 16 - but that’s two games that I will presume would be home ones as we have been pony away all year.
So as a starting point - what’s the two home games we can win?
And then - going on the presumption we will lose some of those illustrative draw - what’s the away game we can win?
Issue is that any scenario needs multiple wins. It feels like we solidify but stop playing any kind of expansive football. We try and play football and then look weak as piss at the back again.
I just can’t see what our way out is.5 -
another good battling performance and point from the league leaders, only surprise was atmosphere wise we were quiet considering who we were playing and what’s at stake.0
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Think we’ve watch completely different games in the past weekDamoNorthStand said:I’m trying to think of how our current form can track to safety. Purely illogical but illustrative example.
We draw every game (we are certainly more solid - just haven’t shown we can win). That’s 12 more points which is 46 and unlikely to be enough.
so to get to fifty we would need to win 2 games.
Haven’t won in 16 - but that’s two games that I will presume would be home ones as we have been pony away all year.
So as a starting point - what’s the two home games we can win?
And then - going on the presumption we will lose some of those illustrative draw - what’s the away game we can win?
Issue is that any scenario needs multiple wins. It feels like we solidify but stop playing any kind of expansive football. We try and play football and then look weak as piss at the back again.
I just can’t see what our way out is.14 -
Thought Anderson was brilliant for where he’s at in his career. Jones won everything . Superb performance. Great to be there for that. Pompey will be glad about the draw.3
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My concern is top of the table teams play an open game against us so when we play well we look good bur against lesser teams they sit back and want us to break them down I'm worried whether we have the creativity to do that.Chris_from_Sidcup said:I've seen enough the last 2 games to think we'll be ok once we play the bottom half sides and can then hopefully get some wins. Much better defensively but a blow to now lose Jones for 2 games.7 -
Bring on Derby...
There is a new found confidence and belief within the team, we will be fine come the end of April, great performance one and all, with an extra call out for Jones and Kanu...👍2 -
This is a fair point but I’m hoping that NJ will set us up in those to win games. He’s a lot more tactically clued up than Appleton, as proven in the last two games.Kap10 said:
My concern is top of the table teams play an open game against us so when we play well we look good bur against lesser teams they sit back and want us to break them down I'm worried whether we have the creativity to do that.Chris_from_Sidcup said:I've seen enough the last 2 games to think we'll be ok once we play the bottom half sides and can then hopefully get some wins. Much better defensively but a blow to now lose Jones for 2 games.13 -
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I think that was the only noticeable difference between the two sides Large. Pompey's delivery into the the box from set plays was light years away from the amateurish efforts that we put in.LargeAddick said:
But he's not wrong. Those two short corners we took were criminal.Bailey said:
Cheerie Fecker aint yer !East Kent Addick said:We offer so little going forwards, Kanu and May put in so much effort with hardly any support from the midfield. Bakinson was poor, Thomas's passing gets worse each week and our set pieces were dreadful. Nice to get a clean sheet but there's a lack of creative quality across the team. Only 2 teams won less games than us.0 -
He’s looking out of itMendonca In Asdas said:0 -
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I'm pleased we managed a draw against the league leaders but I am a bit confused about one thing. Maybe someone could explain it. Would we have got more points if we had won?2 -
Because form is temporary... If you used data and form for the rest of your days to analysis how results will happen, then Charlton will surely never win another game on that basis?DamoNorthStand said:I’m trying to think of how our current form can track to safety. Purely illogical but illustrative example.
We draw every game (we are certainly more solid - just haven’t shown we can win). That’s 12 more points which is 46 and unlikely to be enough.
so to get to fifty we would need to win 2 games.
Haven’t won in 16 - but that’s two games that I will presume would be home ones as we have been pony away all year.
So as a starting point - what’s the two home games we can win?
And then - going on the presumption we will lose some of those illustrative draw - what’s the away game we can win?
Issue is that any scenario needs multiple wins. It feels like we solidify but stop playing any kind of expansive football. We try and play football and then look weak as piss at the back again.
I just can’t see what our way out is.
Often the rot stops at the most unexpected point, its the beautiful part of Football, as predictable is the last thing it'll ever be - Who for example expected our first clean sheet in 22 (?) to come against the League leaders?15 -
Shrewsbury and Wigan are both eminently winnable based on current form/performances.DamoNorthStand said:
So as a starting point - what’s the two home games we can win?
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The way I see it, we are no longer a team of softies. I am confident we will go on a run soon which will keep us up.9
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A thought on the ref. He didn't make any glaring errors but I felt his decisions lacked consistency.1
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Apart from the pen for handball he didn't award us, and ended up booking Jones and leaving him with a 2 match ban...even Brownie, Curbs and Scott all thought was a clear penalty...🤷♂️MuttleyCAFC said:A thought on the ref. He didn't make any glaring errors but I felt his decisions lacked consistency.2 -
I’m actually wondering if we can get away with just winning our 3 home games v Carlisle, Wigan and Shrewsbury. But we have to go more expansive and take some chances with player selection and tactics.
And then take a solid-first approach away. Which I actually can imagine would be enough to get a win and plenty of draws.
That could be enough?0 -
But Reading lost to Shrewsbury who are our nearest rivals.peterreeves said:I'm pleased with this... To get a clean sheet is massive progress.
Yes we might still go down..... But its in our own hands. Burton, Reading Cambridge and Vale all lost... Nobody is running out of the zone yet.
Onto Derby but wondering if Tennai is crocked who slips into right back?
Derby lost today which hopefully makes them jittery on Tuesday and no Cbt likely to play either.1
