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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Portsmouth: Saturday 24th February 2024 | KO 15:00
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Great performance and good atmosphere, too.
Kanu and Anderson doing our academy proud currently. Karoy especially was outstanding today. Jones also excellent.I just wish we were a little more skilled at the ‘dark arts’. Barkinson should’ve been right in the ref’s face when he let a Pompey player get away with punching the ball away just minutes after Barkinson was booked for kicking the ball away (all of 5 yards).Imagine Yann, Pratley, Taylor, Pearce, etc. in that situation? We’re really lacking this right now and I hope Jones adds this part of the game to the team.The level of refereeing at this level is typically so bad that the ‘dark arts’ are IMHO essential to get out of this league.3 -
I doubt it with anything concrete to us. Otherwise I'd think he'd be with us before.PugRobin99 said:I saw Mick Harford (Luton head of recruitment) on the train to the valley today… wonder if there’s anything in that…
Salary and entrenched with Luton suggests nothing doing with us.0 -
Opta reckons Aneke had 9 touches and Camara 2.Simonsen said:The game plan is obvious (and credit to the Manager for understanding what's needed).....stay in the game until Chuks and Camara come on to nick it.
Fly in the ointment today, was Aneke possibly touched the ball 3 times and I'm not even sure Camara touched it at all?
Ps...well done to Gillesphey for the recovery tackle....probably the best bit of a poor watch.3 -
Only watched on Charlton TV, but surprised REG didn't get higher marks on that thread. Thought he was a rock at the back. Not taking anything from Jones, but seemed like most of the crucial interventions, Gillesphey's aside (and glad their man didn't go down then or Jones would've been off) came from REG, and he offered a bit going forwards as well.
But trying to work out how much of this improved defence to put down to Isted l. He seems far more in control than AMB.0 -
From the player marks thread:When I was a kid we called that "doing a Les Berry", although admittedly it was a lot easier clearing over the top of the old West Stand back then. The only player I remember doing it more recently was Paul Konchesky, who managed to clear the ball out over the top of the East Stand, and we could hear the ball bouncing down the roof. Can't remember which game it was though.Leuth said:GILLESPHEY: n/a arise, the white Naby. not just that tackle but he hit the West Stand roof with a clearance. I sing a song of Macca
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Didn’t go and have enjoyed catching up with all the posts. 6 weeks ago this would’ve been a defeat. 2 pts against Bolton and Pompey is a decent return, if we can come away from Derby with a point or better that would be ideal. Got to make the games after Derby count. None of them will be easy, but sounds like Jones has lit the fire and we just need to get to safety4
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And Ali, before Les Berry it was known as a John Hewie 😉.aliwibble said:From the player marks thread:When I was a kid we called that "doing a Les Berry", although admittedly it was a lot easier clearing over the top of the old West Stand back then. The only player I remember doing it more recently was Paul Konchesky, who managed to clear the ball out over the top of the East Stand, and we could hear the ball bouncing down the roof. Can't remember which game it was though.Leuth said:GILLESPHEY: n/a arise, the white Naby. not just that tackle but he hit the West Stand roof with a clearance. I sing a song of Macca2 -
I dont think we will win to many games with Bankinson Anderson and Dobbo as our midfield.7
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Fair enough. I think one of Camara's touches was picking the ball up and giving it to REG to take a throw.Callumcafc said:
Opta reckons Aneke had 9 touches and Camara 2.Simonsen said:The game plan is obvious (and credit to the Manager for understanding what's needed).....stay in the game until Chuks and Camara come on to nick it.
Fly in the ointment today, was Aneke possibly touched the ball 3 times and I'm not even sure Camara touched it at all?
Ps...well done to Gillesphey for the recovery tackle....probably the best bit of a poor watch.
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What about his xg stats?Callumcafc said:
Opta reckons Aneke had 9 touches and Camara 2.Simonsen said:The game plan is obvious (and credit to the Manager for understanding what's needed).....stay in the game until Chuks and Camara come on to nick it.
Fly in the ointment today, was Aneke possibly touched the ball 3 times and I'm not even sure Camara touched it at all?
Ps...well done to Gillesphey for the recovery tackle....probably the best bit of a poor watch.3 - Sponsored links:
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Probably not but it’ll be horses for courses for the remaining fixtures depending on the opposition and gaps between games. Those three today were there to do a specific job and played their part in a hard earned, well deserved point.greenwichred68 said:I dont think we will win to many games with Bankinson Anderson and Dobbo as our midfield.
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Knowing our luck though, if he'd done that the ref would've given him a second yellow for dissent.CAFCOlly said:I just wish we were a little more skilled at the ‘dark arts’. Barkinson should’ve been right in the ref’s face when he let a Pompey player get away with punching the ball away just minutes after Barkinson was booked for kicking the ball away (all of 5 yards).
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Savage, G. …Truly Madly DeeplyScratchingvalleycat said:
Truly Madley poor refereeeastterrace6168 said:
Apart from the pen for handball he didn't award us, and ended up booking Jones and leaving him with a 2 match ban...even Brownie, Curbs and Scott all thought was a clear penalty...🤷♂️MuttleyCAFC said:A thought on the ref. He didn't make any glaring errors but I felt his decisions lacked consistency.0 -
Brilliant result today!!!
Just listened to Nathan Jones interview, I have to admit he seems to be having a positive effect on us fans, his man management of the squad I believe is slowly beginning to takes hold!
He is no doubt getting his message across the training ground, which he being transmitted on the pitch on match days.
Lets keep right behind NJ and the team. Clearly the best manager since the Bowyer days and I sincerely hope he can keep driving this team, which does have real potential. I believe the good times are just around the corner👍
The praise he is giving to Anderson, Kanu, Campbell and Jones along with the new RWB's could be the nucleus of a very good side, similar to some of the good young Palarse sides over the years, so please NJ & the Team keep us up!1 -
Everybody put in a big shift, and it’s ages since we have been able to say that.PLUS, our record against Pompey is intact and we won’t be playing them again for a good few years.1
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I think Jones has put an emphasis on us competing which we are definitely seeing. It is probably better to get that aspect right first rather than the technical side because it is what you need to do at this level as a minimum against the top and the bottom sides. The difference is if you do that against the bottom sides you will win quite a few. It is what has been killing us with players like Fraser, and others, farting about and when you compete as hard as your opponents then you can fine tune the other aspects.8
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On the subject of dark arts. Was the Pompey players taking a seat part of their plan if things aren't going their way? Seems a bit convenient the times we were getting a bit of momentum one of their players would sit down and take the sting out of things. Could have all been a coincidence but none of them seemed to struggle after the game restarted.CAFCOlly said:Great performance and good atmosphere, too.
Kanu and Anderson doing our academy proud currently. Karoy especially was outstanding today. Jones also excellent.I just wish we were a little more skilled at the ‘dark arts’. Barkinson should’ve been right in the ref’s face when he let a Pompey player get away with punching the ball away just minutes after Barkinson was booked for kicking the ball away (all of 5 yards).Imagine Yann, Pratley, Taylor, Pearce, etc. in that situation? We’re really lacking this right now and I hope Jones adds this part of the game to the team.The level of refereeing at this level is typically so bad that the ‘dark arts’ are IMHO essential to get out of this league.12 -
I would like to say that Watson had a decent game. I have been pretty hard on him because I think he has been, with Edun, a big factor in our poor run but I have to say he has improved. I'm still not sure he is the answer but he has got better.7
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Let what be known? . He got the card for “dissent”. We already knew that.mendonca said:Silly Jones. Glad Jones let that be known.0 -
Anyone else think Dobson looked a bit sluggish today? Noticed a few times he was done for pace or a bit far off his man. Don’t think he’s been near his best last couple of games.25
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Totally agree. He was poor.AFKABartram said:Anyone else think Dobson looked a bit sluggish today? Noticed a few times he was done for pace or a bit far off his man. Don’t think he’s been near his best last couple of games.2 -
An absorbing afternoon and a very decent result against a team 39 points ahead of us, albeit not the 3 points we craved and so desperately need. Overall, the outcome was probably fair on the balance of play. We had the better chances in the first half, although Portsmouth also had their moments.
We started the second period really well but neither team managed to fashion a clear opportunity, albeit Portsmouth probably finished the stronger, without looking particularly dangerous, save when Gillesphey produced his late, goal saving tackle.
I thought there were several positives:
- for the first time in a long time we looked like a team who had been properly coached and were playing to a genuine tactical plan.
- credit to Nathan Jones for blunting Pompey offensively by deploying Karoy Anderson and Tyreeq Bakinson to man mark Pompey’s two central midfield players, Pack and Moxon, when we were out of possession. As a result, Pompey were unable to build the play and get Kamara and Lane into the game. Kanu and May closed down effectively from the front and Jones won practically everything in the air when our opponents were forced to go long.
- we kept a clean sheet - our first in the league for nearly half a season (a quite incredible statistic)
- the commitment of the side was absolute and there for all to see, led by outstanding turns from two of our youngsters, Anderson and Kanu
- there was a decent crowd and a very good atmosphere, as our supporters clearly appreciated the side’s efforts and got right behind them.
We lacked the final ball to get the decisive goal but if we can keep playing at this level, we should garner enough points to haul ourselves out of trouble. I expect we’ll adopt a similar approach on Tuesday at Derby, although we need to find a way to turn over the lesser lights of the division in the remaining games, especially those around us in the relegation dogfight.
A shame that Lloyd Jones picked up a booking from, Madley, the immensely irritating referee but at least Jones will be back for the showdown against Cheltenham on Tuesday week. Let’s hope the rest of the lads came through largely unscathed.
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That he was silly 😜PragueAddick said:
Let what be known? . He got the card for “dissent”. We already knew that.mendonca said:Silly Jones. Glad Jones let that be known.2 -
Good manager=better team=better atmosphere from the fans.
Rinse and repeat on warm cycle2 -
Yep. Sluggish is a good word. Might be carrying a virus though. You never here things like “George Dobson misses out because he’s got a bit of a cold.” Bakinson was “ill” but he was more expendable.AFKABartram said:Anyone else think Dobson looked a bit sluggish today? Noticed a few times he was done for pace or a bit far off his man. Don’t think he’s been near his best last couple of games.I’d say Alfie was off the pace too but that’s down to lack of sleep due to his newborn.1 -
You’re onto me today aren’t you?ElfsborgAddick said:
What about his xg stats?Callumcafc said:
Opta reckons Aneke had 9 touches and Camara 2.Simonsen said:The game plan is obvious (and credit to the Manager for understanding what's needed).....stay in the game until Chuks and Camara come on to nick it.
Fly in the ointment today, was Aneke possibly touched the ball 3 times and I'm not even sure Camara touched it at all?
Ps...well done to Gillesphey for the recovery tackle....probably the best bit of a poor watch.0 -
Well said SirRedmidland said:Good performance again, following on from Bolton. I can't understand those on here complaining "but it's only a point"! Those same people, I bet, were saying just a few days ago how we were going to pick up zero points from Bolton, Pompey and Derby and how we were going to get slaughtered! We haven't been, there's a marked improvement in how we play and Jones has only had 3 games! Please, for once, can you just be positive that Jones has stopped the rot and is getting the side playing his way! We are slowly building and as long as we stay up that's all that matters. Players who were bereft of confidence are getting it back, take L. Jones as an example, he was excellent today. If we can get a point from Derby on Tuesday that'll be 3 points hardly anyone thought we would get. So let's, for once, enjoy the clean sheet and an unexpected point!3 -
Simple,trying to get useless managers on the cheap- now in Nathan we trustse9addick said:Completely ridiculous that a team that’s capable of getting a point and a clean sheet against the league leaders has gotten so few points a clean sheets the rest of the season.
When this season is over, and we stay up, we need to conduct some sort of investigation into what on earth has gone on and make sure it never happens again.3 -
Callumcafc said:
You’re onto me today aren’t you?ElfsborgAddick said:
What about his xg stats?Callumcafc said:
Opta reckons Aneke had 9 touches and Camara 2.Simonsen said:The game plan is obvious (and credit to the Manager for understanding what's needed).....stay in the game until Chuks and Camara come on to nick it.
Fly in the ointment today, was Aneke possibly touched the ball 3 times and I'm not even sure Camara touched it at all?
Ps...well done to Gillesphey for the recovery tackle....probably the best bit of a poor watch.
Belinda Carlisle mate.
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Circle in the sand?ElfsborgAddick said:Callumcafc said:
You’re onto me today aren’t you?ElfsborgAddick said:
What about his xg stats?Callumcafc said:
Opta reckons Aneke had 9 touches and Camara 2.Simonsen said:The game plan is obvious (and credit to the Manager for understanding what's needed).....stay in the game until Chuks and Camara come on to nick it.
Fly in the ointment today, was Aneke possibly touched the ball 3 times and I'm not even sure Camara touched it at all?
Ps...well done to Gillesphey for the recovery tackle....probably the best bit of a poor watch.
Belinda Carlisle mate.1
