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Charlton Summer Transfer Rumours 2024
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Fraser hasn't played under Jones, maybe he can get something out of him if he does end up staying8
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BigRedEvil said:Fraser hasn't played under Jones, maybe he can get something out of him if he does end up staying17
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JamesSeed said:Btw after all the transfer activity we are now 5/1 to be promoted. 16/1 for the title.Unchanged.
Who would we have to sign to lower those odds I wonder. Lionel Messi?
Bookies probably have us about right at 9th favourites (I think that’s generous personally in light of losing CBT, Dobson & most likely May by the time the season starts). They’re definitely not going to shorten our odds because we’ve signed a reserve keeper from Cambridge on a freebie.8 -
Oh Eddie Youds... said:JamesSeed said:Btw after all the transfer activity we are now 5/1 to be promoted. 16/1 for the title.Unchanged.
Who would we have to sign to lower those odds I wonder. Lionel Messi?
Bookies probably have us about right at 9th favourites (I think that’s generous personally in light of losing CBT, Dobson & most likely May by the time the season starts). They’re definitely not going to shorten our odds because we’ve signed a reserve keeper from Cambridge on a freebie.1 -
Surely a decent deal can be fashioned that enables Scott Fraser to continue as a footballer…..somewhere else.
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seth plum said:I found the Scott Fraser heat map1
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charltonbob said:Sage said:golfaddick said:Todds_right_hook said:BigRedEvil said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:golfaddick said:Redrobo said:Scoham said:Todds_right_hook said:Scoham said:Mendonca In Asdas said:golfaddick said:Yann897 said:charlton_hero said:Doesn't pre-season start next Thursday? I thought we would have done more business by now if I'm being honest. Hopefully a busy week ahead.
Ho hum.
Football forums, and patience don’t seem to go hand in hand.
With that being less than a week away it’s not looking like it’ll happen. We need around 8-10 signings and a handful of players to move on.
the problem is that the majority want it to be the first statement and are hanging on it, winding themselves up and others up because they can’t see it happening.
if and I know it’s an if and we have 2-3 in next week and another 2-3 in during the rest of the window, jones has got his wish. And that is a lot of our business (not all) done in time for pre season training.“We’d like to get the squad completed by our return date of June 27th,” he said. “We’ve worked tirelessly for the last three to four weeks in terms of arranging meetings with players. We’re trying to be bold in our recruitment.
“I’m sure that by the time that we do get to the first day of pre-season, we’ll have the majority, if not all, of our squad in place. That’s so important because pre-season is a real big time, an important time to gel the squad and lay down certain things.
I am guessing another GK, a striker and an attacking midfielder, but would appreciate the facts.
Cheers.
But if so its not enough & we will struggle massively. But all we can do is wait & see.
3 keepers
LB: Small, Edun, Edwards
CB: REG, Jones, Gillesphey, Mitchell, Ness
RB: Ramsay, Watson, Asiimwe
Midfield: Berry, Coventry, Anderson, Taylor
Wingers: Campbell
Strikers: May, Chuks, Leaburn, Kanu
I've not included the younger kids or people like Fraser who will likely go.
So that's already a 23 man squad when Mitchell signs. Assumption would be that we will definitely add a striker and then i guess we probably need a wide attacker/winger and an attacking midfielder.
Beyond that i can't see us signing anyone else unless a player leaves (like May). Highly unlikely we're going to be making another 5/6/7 signings, especially when Jones has previously said he wanted a smaller, more streamlined squad.
That squad is far too similar to the one which ended the season
i suggest that comments like this are put on hold for a month, then we can assess and comment on the depth and quality of the squad.
Said every year about this time when old sages's like myself can see the writing on the wall.
IF we sold Alfie for £1.5M & IF that money was spent on a decent replacement (ie, a proven goalscorer at this level who will get you 15-20 goals a season) then I would begrudgingly concede it's a good deal.
But it wont. We'll buy 1 or 2 of the goalscorers previously mentioned who'll end up with 8 or 10 goals.....with everyone saying it's up to the rest of the team to make up the shortfall.
Which is the problem as we've not had other players chipping in with 6 or 7 goals......apart from JRS & CBT who left and have not been replaced.
So again, one of the reasons why we need another 6 or 7 players is that our current squad DOESN'T SCORE GOALS.
And relax.
We need around 7 very, very good players anyway, that’s bloody hard enough as it is. 8 if May leaves is even harder.
What I simply don’t understand is lots of people are saying we’ll just go and sign May’s replacement and a younger version or we’ll sign two strikers for the cost of what we’d get for May or whatever else. But if it was that simple, why would Huddersfield be after the top goal scorer in the league when they could sign other, younger, less expensive strikers? They want May because they know he’ll score 20+ goals next season, that’s why.
Of course, there is a long way to go yet and the season doesn’t start for another 7 weeks. However, don’t put the pressure on to say we’re trying to have the squad pretty much complete by the start of pre-season, which is just 5 days away, and we need more than 5 top quality signings.
Also tired of seeing Coventry being better than Dobson when we simply haven’t seen it at all. He’s only 2 years younger than Dobson and has not even played 100 games yet whereas Dobson has played over 300. George seemingly just another player who really needs to be replaced.
This isn’t being doom and gloom, it’s just we are nowhere near strong enough for what we need to achieve and there is so much more to do, on and off the pitch, that letting the only one in the team who scores goals leave is quite frankly mental right now.
2 I believe, but he will still probably be the heartbeat of our midfield but we'll have to see. Plenty of time left to sign players of course but I feel Groundhog day is just around the corner.
Problem is the record never changes. He was moaning exactly the same the season we signed Lyle Taylor and got promoted. Everyone wants signings done early but you just never know how a season is going to go until it actually starts and the window is closed and we actually get to see the players.0 -
I totally get the reasons why, but we really need to start calling some of these players bluff a bit when they are sitting on contracts and not willing to take less to the point where we have to pay them off to be rid of them - your Frasers and Kirks of this world- if they have 2 years left on a contract, but are not good enough - instead of sending them out on season long loans (where we pay most of their wages anyway) we should just go back to them and be like - well if you are not willing to move on unless your overblown wage demands that you don't deserve are met then off to the reserves you go for 2 years - see how you feel about that when it comes to finding a club when you haven't played a competitive game for 2 years.3
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Manic_mania said:I totally get the reasons why, but we really need to start calling some of these players bluff a bit when they are sitting on contracts and not willing to take less to the point where we have to pay them off to be rid of them - your Frasers and Kirks of this world- if they have 2 years left on a contract, but are not good enough - instead of sending them out on season long loans (where we pay most of their wages anyway) we should just go back to them and be like - well if you are not willing to move on unless your overblown wage demands that you don't deserve are met then off to the reserves you go for 2 years - see how you feel about that when it comes to finding a club when you haven't played a competitive game for 2 years.0
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Manic_mania said:I totally get the reasons why, but we really need to start calling some of these players bluff a bit when they are sitting on contracts and not willing to take less to the point where we have to pay them off to be rid of them - your Frasers and Kirks of this world- if they have 2 years left on a contract, but are not good enough - instead of sending them out on season long loans (where we pay most of their wages anyway) we should just go back to them and be like - well if you are not willing to move on unless your overblown wage demands that you don't deserve are met then off to the reserves you go for 2 years - see how you feel about that when it comes to finding a club when you haven't played a competitive game for 2 years.
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Henry Irving said:Manic_mania said:I totally get the reasons why, but we really need to start calling some of these players bluff a bit when they are sitting on contracts and not willing to take less to the point where we have to pay them off to be rid of them - your Frasers and Kirks of this world- if they have 2 years left on a contract, but are not good enough - instead of sending them out on season long loans (where we pay most of their wages anyway) we should just go back to them and be like - well if you are not willing to move on unless your overblown wage demands that you don't deserve are met then off to the reserves you go for 2 years - see how you feel about that when it comes to finding a club when you haven't played a competitive game for 2 years.2
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fenaddick said:Manic_mania said:I totally get the reasons why, but we really need to start calling some of these players bluff a bit when they are sitting on contracts and not willing to take less to the point where we have to pay them off to be rid of them - your Frasers and Kirks of this world- if they have 2 years left on a contract, but are not good enough - instead of sending them out on season long loans (where we pay most of their wages anyway) we should just go back to them and be like - well if you are not willing to move on unless your overblown wage demands that you don't deserve are met then off to the reserves you go for 2 years - see how you feel about that when it comes to finding a club when you haven't played a competitive game for 2 years.
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Scoham said:Henry Irving said:Manic_mania said:I totally get the reasons why, but we really need to start calling some of these players bluff a bit when they are sitting on contracts and not willing to take less to the point where we have to pay them off to be rid of them - your Frasers and Kirks of this world- if they have 2 years left on a contract, but are not good enough - instead of sending them out on season long loans (where we pay most of their wages anyway) we should just go back to them and be like - well if you are not willing to move on unless your overblown wage demands that you don't deserve are met then off to the reserves you go for 2 years - see how you feel about that when it comes to finding a club when you haven't played a competitive game for 2 years.0
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Hearing that Alfie May plays some Cricket, it feels like his career at Cafc is in the corridor of uncertainty.
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Fraser was always going to be the most difficult player to move on. Mind you, given his publicly expressed desire to leave the club and move up to Scotland, there should be scope for some compromise on his part, although he may find it difficult to get anyone to commit to a 2-year deal.
I wouldn’t be surprised if nothing gets done until the end of the window.2 -
One day there will be a transfer rumour on here. Hopefully.6
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Henry Irving said:Manic_mania said:I totally get the reasons why, but we really need to start calling some of these players bluff a bit when they are sitting on contracts and not willing to take less to the point where we have to pay them off to be rid of them - your Frasers and Kirks of this world- if they have 2 years left on a contract, but are not good enough - instead of sending them out on season long loans (where we pay most of their wages anyway) we should just go back to them and be like - well if you are not willing to move on unless your overblown wage demands that you don't deserve are met then off to the reserves you go for 2 years - see how you feel about that when it comes to finding a club when you haven't played a competitive game for 2 years.
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Rumour - Mitchell signing announced early next week2
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redbuttle said:One day there will be a transfer rumour on here. Hopefully.
We needed 8 first team players at the start of the summer (9 if May leaves).
So far we have only signed 1 (Luke Berry) plus two back up players (Mannion & Edwards who have been brought in to compete with our future 1st team keeper & Small).
A slow start would be an understatement.11 - Sponsored links:
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JamesSeed said:Btw after all the transfer activity we are now 5/1 to be promoted. 16/1 for the title.Unchanged.
Who would we have to sign to lower those odds I wonder. Lionel Messi?3 -
Manic_mania said:Henry Irving said:Manic_mania said:I totally get the reasons why, but we really need to start calling some of these players bluff a bit when they are sitting on contracts and not willing to take less to the point where we have to pay them off to be rid of them - your Frasers and Kirks of this world- if they have 2 years left on a contract, but are not good enough - instead of sending them out on season long loans (where we pay most of their wages anyway) we should just go back to them and be like - well if you are not willing to move on unless your overblown wage demands that you don't deserve are met then off to the reserves you go for 2 years - see how you feel about that when it comes to finding a club when you haven't played a competitive game for 2 years.
like any work place if one of your colleagues is being treated in a different way from others, some will see it as fair as he's lazy or no good at his job while others will be upset that their mate is been mistreated by the boss.
Bottom line is, no one forced the club to sign Fraser or Kirk, we did it quite willingly and gave them long contracts to protect that investment and to make the deals more attractive. So Fraser and the others are entitled to stick with the contract they were given.
Personally, I think a deal will be done this summer. Kirk and McGrandles have been moved on for which Andy Scott deserves a little, very little, credit.3 -
Henry Irving said:Manic_mania said:Henry Irving said:Manic_mania said:I totally get the reasons why, but we really need to start calling some of these players bluff a bit when they are sitting on contracts and not willing to take less to the point where we have to pay them off to be rid of them - your Frasers and Kirks of this world- if they have 2 years left on a contract, but are not good enough - instead of sending them out on season long loans (where we pay most of their wages anyway) we should just go back to them and be like - well if you are not willing to move on unless your overblown wage demands that you don't deserve are met then off to the reserves you go for 2 years - see how you feel about that when it comes to finding a club when you haven't played a competitive game for 2 years.
like any work place if one of your colleagues is being treated in a different way from others, some will see it as fair as he's lazy or no good at his job while others will be upset that their mate is been mistreated by the boss.
Bottom line is, no one forced the club to sign Fraser or Kirk, we did it quite willingly and gave them long contracts to protect that investment and to make the deals more attractive. So Fraser and the others are entitled to stick with the contract they were given.
Personally, I think a deal will be done this summer. Kirk and McGrandles have been moved on for which Andy Scott deserves a little, very little, credit.0 -
Oh Eddie Youds... said:redbuttle said:One day there will be a transfer rumour on here. Hopefully.
We needed 8 first team players at the start of the summer (9 if May leaves).
So far we have only signed 1 (Luke Berry) plus two back up players (Mannion & Edwards who have been brought in to compete with our future 1st team keeper & Small).
A slow start would be an understatement.2 -
Manic_mania said:Henry Irving said:Manic_mania said:Henry Irving said:Manic_mania said:I totally get the reasons why, but we really need to start calling some of these players bluff a bit when they are sitting on contracts and not willing to take less to the point where we have to pay them off to be rid of them - your Frasers and Kirks of this world- if they have 2 years left on a contract, but are not good enough - instead of sending them out on season long loans (where we pay most of their wages anyway) we should just go back to them and be like - well if you are not willing to move on unless your overblown wage demands that you don't deserve are met then off to the reserves you go for 2 years - see how you feel about that when it comes to finding a club when you haven't played a competitive game for 2 years.
like any work place if one of your colleagues is being treated in a different way from others, some will see it as fair as he's lazy or no good at his job while others will be upset that their mate is been mistreated by the boss.
Bottom line is, no one forced the club to sign Fraser or Kirk, we did it quite willingly and gave them long contracts to protect that investment and to make the deals more attractive. So Fraser and the others are entitled to stick with the contract they were given.
Personally, I think a deal will be done this summer. Kirk and McGrandles have been moved on for which Andy Scott deserves a little, very little, credit.
Those that won't and who don't fit his style of play will be gone while those that do, like Berry, will be brought in to be Jones' leaders on the pitch and in the dressing room.
It's possibly why he prefers younger players like Anderson and Kanu who work hard and can be fashioned into his type of player. They are also good players in their own right.
High risk strategy that didn't work at Stoke or Southampton but did at Luton, who were probably closer to where Charlton are now.
I would have thought Alfie's playing style, hard running, closing done, being general nuisance to the opposition plus his goal record would fit in with Jones desired way of playing but it seems not.7 -
Garrymanilow said:Billericaydickie said:Chunes said:Oh dear. Last thing we need is Scott Fraser moping about the place.
With the right players around him, he could easily hold his own and do a good job.
However it all depends whether Scott Fraser decides to turn up and try!0 -
Ianaddick62 said:I would like to think the directors wouldn't face the supporters on the 27th without more positive news on the transfer front
Real problem for me is that since Aug 2020 we have started the new season with a new manager. Same again this season.1 -
Henry Irving said:Manic_mania said:Henry Irving said:Manic_mania said:Henry Irving said:Manic_mania said:I totally get the reasons why, but we really need to start calling some of these players bluff a bit when they are sitting on contracts and not willing to take less to the point where we have to pay them off to be rid of them - your Frasers and Kirks of this world- if they have 2 years left on a contract, but are not good enough - instead of sending them out on season long loans (where we pay most of their wages anyway) we should just go back to them and be like - well if you are not willing to move on unless your overblown wage demands that you don't deserve are met then off to the reserves you go for 2 years - see how you feel about that when it comes to finding a club when you haven't played a competitive game for 2 years.
like any work place if one of your colleagues is being treated in a different way from others, some will see it as fair as he's lazy or no good at his job while others will be upset that their mate is been mistreated by the boss.
Bottom line is, no one forced the club to sign Fraser or Kirk, we did it quite willingly and gave them long contracts to protect that investment and to make the deals more attractive. So Fraser and the others are entitled to stick with the contract they were given.
Personally, I think a deal will be done this summer. Kirk and McGrandles have been moved on for which Andy Scott deserves a little, very little, credit.
Those that won't and who don't fit his style of play will be gone while those that do, like Berry, will be brought in to be Jones' leaders on the pitch and in the dressing room.
It's possibly why he prefers younger players like Anderson and Kanu who work hard and can be fashioned into his type of player. They are also good players in their own right.
High risk strategy that didn't work at Stoke or Southampton but did at Luton, who were probably closer to where Charlton are now.
I would have thought Alfie's playing style, hard running, closing done, being general nuisance to the opposition plus his goal record would fit in with Jones desired way of playing but it seems not.0 -
Luton striker Joe Taylor being mentioned elsewhere. Similar in height to May. Scored 10 in 19 on loan at Lincoln last season.3
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Scoham said:Luton striker Joe Taylor being mentioned elsewhere. Similar in height to May. Scored 10 in 19 on loan at Lincoln last season.2
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